The Petey Predicament

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Re: The Petey Predicament

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Per wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 11:57 am I'm optimistic about Petey. I think it's mostly in his head, and it seems he is getting at least closer to the player he used to be.
Do you think he'll be on the Olympic roster Per? I've been thinking about this lately.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 12:00 pm
Per wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 11:57 am I'm optimistic about Petey. I think it's mostly in his head, and it seems he is getting at least closer to the player he used to be.
Do you think he'll be on the Olympic roster Per? I've been thinking about this lately.
I think so. Based on last season, he shouldn't be, but based on what we know he can do, he should.

And frankly, I hope the Olympics could be a game changer for him.
A change of environment, back to his roots. If that can nudge his mind back into the right focus, he can bring that back with him to Vancouver.
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Glory Days for Petey had, for the most part, Miller and Horvat joining him down the gut.

I don't see him accruing several 100 point seasons with the current state of the Canucks centre position, let alone forwards.

He is out against top top most nights.

I call BS on that one Per.

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Yeah, and if he repeats the 4 Nations experience where he ended up getting benched.....I don't want him bringing that back to Vancouver.

I think getting passed over will be a better kick in the ass for him.
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:30 pm Yeah, and if he repeats the 4 Nations experience where he ended up getting benched.....I don't want him bringing that back to Vancouver.

I think getting passed over will be a better kick in the ass for him.
Even if he doesn't score, he's got what you're looking for in a fourth-line center in a tournament like that: he's pretty good on the dot, checks like a demon, and throws himself in front of shots with reckless abandon.

And you have that katent scoring ability that, who knows, could emerge at some point.
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Not sure if you are kidding or serious?

Why?

46% on face offs this year.
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donlever wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:32 pm Not sure if you are kidding or serious?

Why?

46% on face offs this year.
I'm seeing a much better effort from him in the dots the last few games. Seems to be getting better
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Good....not to state the obvious but the team needs him in all facets.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:37 pm
donlever wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 6:32 pm Not sure if you are kidding or serious?

Why?

46% on face offs this year.
I'm seeing a much better effort from him in the dots the last few games. Seems to be getting better
Yeah, that's what I'm seeing lately too. And again tonight.

Wasn't aware of the stats, but Donny has a point there.
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donlever wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:09 pm Glory Days for Petey had, for the most part, Miller and Horvat joining him down the gut.

I don't see him accruing several 100 point seasons with the current state of the Canucks centre position, let alone forwards.

He is out against top top most nights.

I call BS on that one Per.

Sorry man...
The kid is just 26. He could play anouther ten seasons if his body holds up.

Markus Näslund did not have a 100 point season until he was 30. Same for Daniel Sedin. Henrik was 29.
Petey had a 104 point season at age 22.

I just can't believe that he peaked at 22 and never will reach that level again.
Most players have their best years when roughly 26-30. He should just be entering his prime.
But sure, who he plays with (and against) obviously makes a difference.
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They need a couple top end fowards. Full stop. Maybe Cootes steps up next year and a guy like Raty takes another step. If it's Hughes or one of the kids + they deal for a true impact forward it could drastically change the complexion of the team.

Peter is doing way too much matchup work right now. Way too much.
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Per wrote: Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:06 am
donlever wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:09 pm Glory Days for Petey had, for the most part, Miller and Horvat joining him down the gut.

I don't see him accruing several 100 point seasons with the current state of the Canucks centre position, let alone forwards.

He is out against top top most nights.

I call BS on that one Per.

Sorry man...
The kid is just 26. He could play anouther ten seasons if his body holds up.

Markus Näslund did not have a 100 point season until he was 30. Same for Daniel Sedin. Henrik was 29.
Petey had a 104 point season at age 22.

I just can't believe that he peaked at 22 and never will reach that level again.
Most players have their best years when roughly 26-30. He should just be entering his prime.
But sure, who he plays with (and against) obviously makes a difference.
Name players who have peaked and then fallen off like him and regained that form.

Naslund was 28 when he became a 1.0 PPG player. That lasted 5 seasons. It is worth mentioning that Naslund played his most productive seasons during the "dead puck era" of the NHL.

Hank and Dank were indeed slow developing for 2/3 overall picks.

You know the big difference? All 3 of those guys were very coachable players, their peers spoke very well of them, coaches and managers defended them when necessary in the media and they spoke well of the work they put in and their dedication in and out of season, on and off the ice. You never had former players question their preparation, you never had anyone say they were hard to coach.

Those guys also carried their team, did the heavy lifting offensively. Pettersson has led in scoring, but never driven the play on his own the way those guys did.

The other big difference is that none of them ever ate the percentage of the cap that Pettersson is eating and then failed to live up to it in such a massive way.
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