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ukcanuck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:31 am
So the play is:
1. Sow seeds of doubt into mail in ballots months before the election. Stall delay and interfere with the US Post’s ability to fulfill its function
2. Stack the courts with lackey judges including Kavanagh and Comey-Barrett
3. Create a “crack” team of lawyers with the lack of ethics to wallpaper lawsuits in swing state courts to deliberately confuse and confound the appearance of the process
4. Petition said judges to overturn the election results. Based on nothing more than accusations that Joe Biden, the Democratic Party, and its supporters are guilty of treason
5. Deliberately withhold evidence of large scale voter fraud so that judges have no choice but to throw them out of court. Setting up the ability to take these baseless accusations to the Supreme Court before Dec 8 and the electoral college Ratification where the republicans hold a partisan advantage of 6-3 including 2 new judges who owe their seats to trump personally.
6. In that appeal case the crack team will suddenly drop 4 aces on the table with hard evidence that not one investigative reporter in the entire country was able to find.
7. The Supreme Puppet court will gush with outrage and overturn the certified elections in the necessary states to take back numerical advantage in the electoral college.
8. With the swing states unable to send electors to the college, the Republican senate will have to step in and vote on behalf of the stalled swing states.
9. Trump will be awarded the 270 votes he needs and Biden will have no choice but to concede.
10. The evidence supplied to the Supreme Court will be withheld from the public due to “state security” concerns as trump spends the next four years pretending to find the suspected foreign actors. involved.
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:31 am
11. Anyone who tries to argue against this plan will be branded as a member of Antifa, a communist, a Holocaust denier or a pedophile.
Yeah, that sounds like the kind of plan that Trump would love.
The only one around here who has been branded a Holocaust denier… is YOU my friend.
But yes, you also happen to be an Antifa/pedophile/commie sympathizer.
Sorry UK, I can't help myself, I may be some kind of cunt...
Topper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:29 pm
The best indication that Trump's case is hopeless is that Rudi is leading his defence.
If there were something there, much better Council would be handling the case.
Well duh, that's because "My orange hero" is playing dumb right now, losing on purpose so he gets his lawsuit to SCOTUS asap. That's when Jackie Chiles will step in ...
And nothing is “unflippable” where SCOTUS is involved…
EDIT: The judge blasted the Secretary of State for announcing a certification which had not occurred
... and of course the lamestream media ran with that and have not yet corrected it.
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
, and state law does not allow for overturning a certified result –
Certified results can be overturned by the courts.
(the certifiers can’t change their minds and decertify later though… is that what you meant?)
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
Sure, some idiots may believe a SCOTUS stacked with conservative judges will just crown Don the Con emperor in full disregard of the election outcome and the constitution, but they won’t.
As I said to Mr P, SCOTUS will throw it to Congress.
Trump wins.
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
No one in their right mind would think Trump has a chance to win this.
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:31 am
11. Anyone who tries to argue against this plan will be branded as a member of Antifa, a communist, a Holocaust denier or a pedophile.
Yeah, that sounds like the kind of plan that Trump would love.
The only one around here who has been branded a Holocaust denier… is YOU my friend.
Whaaaa????
Are you saying that uk denies the Holocaust? May as well just say that WW2 never happened.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
mr perfect wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:12 am
That's not how the SCOTUS works, SL. The Trump campaign lost in Pennsylvania Federal Court when Judge Brann dismissed with prejudice the case being tried by Giuliani. In that case Giuliani stated the election was mismanaged and not fraud. The Third Circuit Court, AKA the Appeals court ruled 3-0 against the Trump campaign with Trump appointee Judge Steve Bibas writing the opinion the "claims have no merit." The Supreme Court doesn't even have to hear the case and if they do, if they fault in Brann's ruling they will point out his legal mistakes and have him try the case again. There will be no "cards" or evidence being put forth at any Supreme Court hearing, if there is one.
“if there is one”
The Supreme Court heard Bush vs Gore, they’ll hear this one.
That time they only had to stop the recount in Florida to hand the victory to Bush.
A move that was heavily criticised for infringing on states’ rights.
This time they would have to abolish democracy.
They would need to overturn the results of free and fair elections in at least four states.
Huge difference.
Not going to happen.
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:23 am
Literalists or Originalists? I'd be willing to bet that the current SCOTUS is neither of those things. But it really doesn't matter, because the only way that The Donald can come out on top here is if he really is holding a Royal Flush of evidence that outright proves cheating and voter fraud on the part of the Democrats. Prove that and you don't need to read between the lines, you don't need to try and deduce the intention of centuries dead framers.....the letter of the law is pretty clear.
Right, and we all know that won’t happen. Every one monitoring these elections, federal authorities headed by people named by Trump as well as foreign observers such as the OAS and OSCE, has confirmed that there have been no signs of fraud or tampering. The elections ran smoothly with no signs of interference whatsoever.
Trump is just trying some hail mary shit. He is a narcissist who has never been able to admit failure.
Truth is he has run every business he started into the ground. The only things he has earned money from is the company he inherited from his dad and of course his stint in reality TV where he impersonates a successful businessman so well that many people believe he is one.
Some speculate the reason he won’t concede is because he is fearful of the six criminal investigations he will face when out of office. Two of them for rape/sexual assault, then there is the tax fraud one, one about using his political office to enrich himself, the one about violating campaign laws (Cohen has already gone to prison for some of the stuff he did on Trump’s behalf) and his niece suing for her and her brother having been swindled out of their inheritance after their grandfather.
Even if Biden would grant him a pardon for the ones related to the presidency, he could very well end up in prison over some of the others.
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
I specifically asked you to refrain from posting shit from Russian, Chinese cult, neonazi and looney conspiracy sites, and what do you do? You reply by posting an article from NTD, ie the New Tang Dynasty...
Just freaking look at the name... It’s a site run by Falun Gong, which by definition is a Chinese religious cult.
You really can’t help yourself, can you?
Look, I’ll try to explain once again, the Russians, the Chinese cults, the neonazis and the looney conspiracy sites are not exactly known for publishing reliable and objectively true articles. They have an agenda. They are trying to undermine western democracy, and by wittingly helping spread their propaganda you are turning yourself into what the KGB used to call a useful idiot.
I thought more of you. You know you are better than that.
Strangelove wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:45 pm
Trump wins.
Again: Just give me a suggestion of the terms of the bet you’d be interested in regarding Trump’s imminent victory!
OK?
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
Oh, and apart from those criminal investigations I mentioned earlier, there are also dozens of cities getting ready to collect on the money Trump owes them for rallies he has held there, some going all the way back to 2016...
Yeah, Trump is known for not paying his contractors what he owes them, but unlike private contractors that just go belly up and disappear, cities have the means and resources to go after you!
One of these days Ole Donny may get a nice new jump suit that matches his skin tone.
Whatever you do, always give 100 %!
Except when donating blood.
And nothing is “unflippable” where SCOTUS is involved…
EDIT: The judge blasted the Secretary of State for announcing a certification which had not occurred
... and of course the lamestream media ran with that and have not yet corrected it.
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
, and state law does not allow for overturning a certified result –
Certified results can be overturned by the courts.
(the certifiers can’t change their minds and decertify later though… is that what you meant?)
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
Sure, some idiots may believe a SCOTUS stacked with conservative judges will just crown Don the Con emperor in full disregard of the election outcome and the constitution, but they won’t.
As I said to Mr P, SCOTUS will throw it to Congress.
Trump wins.
Per wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:19 am
No one in their right mind would think Trump has a chance to win this.
Whatever helps you sleep at night Per.
Sigh...!
I specifically asked you to refrain from posting shit from Russian, Chinese cult, neonazi and looney conspiracy sites, and what do you do? You reply by posting an article from NTD, ie the New Tang Dynasty...
Just freaking look at the name... It’s a site run by Falun Gong, which by definition is a Chinese religious cult.
You really can’t help yourself, can you?
Look, I’ll try to explain once again, the Russians, the Chinese cults, the neonazis and the looney conspiracy sites are not exactly known for publishing reliable and objectively true articles. They have an agenda. They are trying to undermine western democracy, and by wittingly helping spread their propaganda you are turning yourself into what the KGB used to call a useful idiot.
I thought more of you. You know you are better than that.
There you go attacking the source again, going all ad hominem again...
First of all, your link DOES NOT say "certification has gone through".
Second of all, Per specifically asked you to refrain from posting shit from Russian, Chinese cult, neonazi and looney conspiracy sites and what do you do? You reply by posting an article from NTD, ie the New Tang Dynasty!
Just freaking look at the name... It’s a site run by Falun Gong, which by definition is a Chinese religious cult.
You really can’t help yourself, can you?
Look, I’ll try to explain once again, the Russians, the Chinese cults, the neonazis and the looney conspiracy sites are not exactly known for publishing reliable and objectively true articles. They have an agenda. They are trying to undermine western democracy, and by wittingly helping spread their propaganda you are turning yourself into what the KGB used to call a useful idiot.
I thought more of you. You know you are better than that.
ukcanuck wrote: ↑Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:31 am
11. Anyone who tries to argue against this plan will be branded as a member of Antifa, a communist, a Holocaust denier or a pedophile.
Yeah, that sounds like the kind of plan that Trump would love.
The only one around here who has been branded a Holocaust denier… is YOU my friend.
Whaaaa????
Are you saying that uk denies the Holocaust? May as well just say that WW2 never happened.
See what you’ve done doc?! It’s all fun and games until someone loses an eye.
No Mëds, I don’t deny the Holocaust at all, That would be insane, The Holocaust is the most notorious crime against humanity in modern history. The horror is a blight on our collective souls and a particular travesty against a race of people who have a long list of grievances over the last two thousand years.