US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24 *AND* Beyond

[mr perfect]

Since the US election, the Trump campaign have filed 51 lawsuits in court. Here is the ruling on one they won:

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/11/pen ... e-ballots/

One is the only case they have won, they have lost or withdrawn from 38 other cases in 25 days. There are 12 cases still going on with 16 days left until the Electoral College votes.

[Per]

Since the US election, the Trump campaign have filed 51 lawsuits in court. Here is the ruling on one they won:

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/11/pen ... e-ballots/

One is the only case they have won, they have lost or withdrawn from 38 other cases in 25 days. There are 12 cases still going on with 16 days left until the Electoral College votes.

And with Pennsylvania now being unflippable - the result has been certified and electors named, and state law does not allow for overturning a certified result - Trump would have to flip four other states that Biden won with a narrow margin to get him under 270. It’s a lost cause.

Sure, some idiots may believe a SCOTUS stacked with conservative judges will just crown Don the Con emperor in full disregard of the election outcome and the constitution, but they won’t.

Conservative judges tend to be literalists or originalists. The literalist will follow the exact letter of the law and never read betwen the lines. The originalists will try to deduct the intention of the framers of the constitution.

Neither approach would help the Trump camp, as they basically want the SCOTUS to disregard the constitution and trample states’ rights, by overturning results that have been confirmed by the states.

No one in their right mind would think Trump has a chance to win this. Especially since he has also pissed off most of the top brass, so he can’t even stage a military coup. Stick a fork in him. He’s done like dinner.

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And Doc, if you think otherwise, let’s discuss the terms of a bet.

No need to post links from various Russian, Chinese cult, neonazi or looney conspiracy sites.
I have no interest in reading them.

Just give me a suggestion of the terms of the bet you’d be interested in regarding Trump’s imminent victory!

OK?

[ukcanuck]

"... and yes, ignore all of disasters in court so far

Disasters?

You don't get it do you?

I've said all along the plan is to have this decided in the Supreme Court.

Can't get there unless you are rejected in the lower courts (and the quicker the better!).

This is why you see some of these Trump-appointed judges helping things along in the lower courts.

Like I said, they'd be foolish to show all their cards before they get to the Supreme Court.



Brace yourself, "My orange hero" is gonna come from behind to win this thing in dramatic fashion!


Recall this move:

BTW did any of you notice this sneaky little move on Friday:

https://twitter.com/correctthemedia/sta ... 7108163587

Supreme Court is the play...

So the play is:
1. Sow seeds of doubt into mail in ballots months before the election. Stall delay and interfere with the US Post’s ability to fulfill its function

2. Stack the courts with lackey judges including Kavanagh and Comey-Barrett

3. Create a “crack” team of lawyers with the lack of ethics to wallpaper lawsuits in swing state courts to deliberately confuse and confound the appearance of the process

4. Petition said judges to overturn the election results. Based on nothing more than accusations that Joe Biden, the Democratic Party, and its supporters are guilty of treason

5. Deliberately withhold evidence of large scale voter fraud so that judges have no choice but to throw them out of court. Setting up the ability to take these baseless accusations to the Supreme Court before Dec 8 and the electoral college Ratification where the republicans hold a partisan advantage of 6-3 including 2 new judges who owe their seats to trump personally.

6. In that appeal case the crack team will suddenly drop 4 aces on the table with hard evidence that not one investigative reporter in the entire country was able to find.

7. The Supreme Puppet court will gush with outrage and overturn the certified elections in the necessary states to take back numerical advantage in the electoral college.

8. With the swing states unable to send electors to the college, the Republican senate will have to step in and vote on behalf of the stalled swing states.

9. Trump will be awarded the 270 votes he needs and Biden will have no choice but to concede.

10. The evidence supplied to the Supreme Court will be withheld from the public due to “state security” concerns as trump spends the next four years pretending to find the suspected foreign actors. involved.

11. Anyone who tries to argue against this plan will be branded as a member of Antifa, a communist, a Holocaust denier or a pedophile.

Yeah, that sounds like the kind of plan that Trump would love.

[Meds]

"... and yes, ignore all of disasters in court so far

Disasters?

You don't get it do you?

I've said all along the plan is to have this decided in the Supreme Court.

Can't get there unless you are rejected in the lower courts (and the quicker the better!).

This is why you see some of these Trump-appointed judges helping things along in the lower courts.

Like I said, they'd be foolish to show all their cards before they get to the Supreme Court.



Brace yourself, "My orange hero" is gonna come from behind to win this thing in dramatic fashion!


Recall this move:

BTW did any of you notice this sneaky little move on Friday:

https://twitter.com/correctthemedia/sta ... 7108163587

Supreme Court is the play...

So the play is:
1. Sow seeds of doubt into mail in ballots months before the election. Stall delay and interfere with the US Post’s ability to fulfill its function

2. Stack the courts with lackey judges including Kavanagh and Comey-Barrett

3. Create a “crack” team of lawyers with the lack of ethics to wallpaper lawsuits in swing state courts to deliberately confuse and confound the appearance of the process

4. Petition said judges to overturn the election results. Based on nothing more than accusations that Joe Biden, the Democratic Party, and its supporters are guilty of treason

5. Deliberately withhold evidence of large scale voter fraud so that judges have no choice but to throw them out of court. Setting up the ability to take these baseless accusations to the Supreme Court before Dec 8 and the electoral college Ratification where the republicans hold a partisan advantage of 6-3 including 2 new judges who owe their seats to trump personally.

6. In that appeal case the crack team will suddenly drop 4 aces on the table with hard evidence that not one investigative reporter in the entire country was able to find.

7. The Supreme Puppet court will gush with outrage and overturn the certified elections in the necessary states to take back numerical advantage in the electoral college.

8. With the swing states unable to send electors to the college, the Republican senate will have to step in and vote on behalf of the stalled swing states.

9. Trump will be awarded the 270 votes he needs and Biden will have no choice but to concede.

10. The evidence supplied to the Supreme Court will be withheld from the public due to “state security” concerns as trump spends the next four years pretending to find the suspected foreign actors. involved.

11. Anyone who tries to argue against this plan will be branded as a member of Antifa, a communist, a Holocaust denier or a pedophile.

Yeah, that sounds like the kind of plan that Trump would love.

Now you're catching on.

There's a reason it's called a trump card.

[Meds]

Since the US election, the Trump campaign have filed 51 lawsuits in court. Here is the ruling on one they won:

https://www.jurist.org/news/2020/11/pen ... e-ballots/

One is the only case they have won, they have lost or withdrawn from 38 other cases in 25 days. There are 12 cases still going on with 16 days left until the Electoral College votes.

And with Pennsylvania now being unflippable - the result has been cerified and electors named, and state law does not allow for overturning a certified result - Trump would have to flip four other states that Biden won with a narrow margin to get him under 270. It’s a lost cause.

Sure, some idiots may believe a SCOTUS stacked with conservative judges will just crown Don the Con emperor in full disregard of the election outcome and the constitution, but they won’t.

Conservative judges tend to be literalists or originalists. The literalist will follow the exact letter of the law and never read betwen the lines. The originalists will try to deduct the intention of the framers of the constitution.

Neither approach would help the Trump camp, as they basically want the SCOTUS to disregard the constitution and trample states’ rights, by overturning results that have been confirmed by the states.

Well, State law is good and all.....but there's a reason it's called the Supreme Court.

Literalists or Originalists? I'd be willing to bet that the current SCOTUS is neither of those things. But it really doesn't matter, because the only way that The Donald can come out on top here is if he really is holding a Royal Flush of evidence that outright proves cheating and voter fraud on the part of the Democrats. Prove that and you don't need to read between the lines, you don't need to try and deduce the intention of centuries dead framers.....the letter of the law is pretty clear.

[rats19]

That’s my take also Mëds

If it can be proven, then it should be overturned and the bad actors taken to task.

If it can’t be proven..... leave the silverware

Simple really.....

[Cousin Strawberry]

I highly doubt you can get a case all the way to the supreme court without disclosing at least a summary of your defense/allegations AND submit some sort of proof to justify occupying the courts resources...even if you are the POTUS

Its only in Hollywood where lawyers surprise the opposition with critical details or evidence under oath

[ukcanuck]

Now you're catching on.

There's a reason it's called a trump card.

Catching on? I’ve been calling Trump a cunt since day one.
The plan doesn’t surprise me and it’s not 4D Chess. It’s just the logical conclusion to an administration that is built around hatred, fear, and naked greed.

[rats19]

Catching on? I’ve been calling Trump a cunt since day one.
The plan doesn’t surprise me and it’s not 4D Chess. It’s just the logical conclusion to an administration that is built around hatred, fear, and naked greed.

So no way you accept any outcome other than a dem win...

The level of hate is high with this one

[Cornuck]

The plan doesn’t surprise me and it’s not 4D Chess. It’s just the logical conclusion to an administration that is built around hatred, fear, and naked greed.

And it's the same bullshit we would have been subjected if he lost in 2016. He always goes to "Rigged Elections" in case he loses. Only this time around, he can milk his base for more cash and draw it out as long as possible.

[Per]

Interesting.... even if the republicans hold on to the senate, Moscow Mitch could be sidelined!

Turns out that the power the majority leader holds in the senate is not a rule, but a tradition. And as Moscow Mitch himself has pointed out, when breaking the tradition that SCOTUS seats are not filled in the last six months of a presidency, traditions are not rules and can be disregarded.

Going by the rules, the senate is presided over by the vice president. Now, since 1937, vice presidents have by tradition let the majority leader decide on what matters reach the floor and are voted on. But - again - that’s not a rule, just a tradition.

The vice president can basically name any senator to do this, and could then let a democrat decide what issues are voted on.

Intriguing!

https://newsflector.com/how-vp-harris-c ... gRuhCoEllg

[Per]

The plan doesn’t surprise me and it’s not 4D Chess. It’s just the logical conclusion to an administration that is built around hatred, fear, and naked greed.

And it's the same bullshit we would have been subjected if he lost in 2016. He always goes to "Rigged Elections" in case he loses. Only this time around, he can milk his base for more cash and draw it out as long as possible.

Heck, he even claimed the 2016 elections were rigged, despite winning.

[Topper]

The best indication that Trump's case is hopeless is that Rudi is leading his defence.

If there were something there, much better Council would be handling the case.

[Strangelove]

That's not how the SCOTUS works, SL. The Trump campaign lost in Pennsylvania Federal Court when Judge Brann dismissed with prejudice the case being tried by Giuliani. In that case Giuliani stated the election was mismanaged and not fraud. The Third Circuit Court, AKA the Appeals court ruled 3-0 against the Trump campaign with Trump appointee Judge Steve Bibas writing the opinion the "claims have no merit." The Supreme Court doesn't even have to hear the case and if they do, if they fault in Brann's ruling they will point out his legal mistakes and have him try the case again. There will be no "cards" or evidence being put forth at any Supreme Court hearing, if there is one.

“if there is one”

The Supreme Court heard Bush vs Gore, they’ll hear this one.

A few days ago the Supreme Court heard Cuomo vs Religion, they’ll hear this one.

And if neither candidate gets 270 electors by Dec 14 they won’t have much of a choice.

(some have said this is the Trump plan)

SCOTUS would definitely not send it back to Brann (time constraints, among other things).

SCOTUS would likely have little choice but to send it to Congress.

Reps outnumber Dems in the House/Senate vote that would follow.

(each state only gets one delegate vote)

So whether SC rules a possibility of widespread fraud … or no one gets to 270:

Trump wins election.

One is the only case they have won, they have lost or withdrawn from 38 other cases in 25 days. There are 12 cases still going on with 16 days left until the Electoral College votes.

Not that it matters much, but Trump's team has only filed 9 lawsuits thus far:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawsuits_ ... nnsylvania

(the rest are separate concerned individuals and groups)

BTW Bush lost every single lawsuit before the Supreme Court heard Bush vs Gore.

[Strangelove]

And with Pennsylvania now being unflippable - the result has been cerified and electors named

Pennsylvania has not been certified.

In fact the judge thinks “Republicans Will Likely Win Pennsylvania Election Lawsuit”.

https://www.ntd.com/judge-republicans-w ... 33926.html

And nothing is “unflippable” where SCOTUS is involved…

EDIT: The judge blasted the Secretary of State for announcing a certification which had not occurred

... and of course the lamestream media ran with that and have not yet corrected it.

, and state law does not allow for overturning a certified result –

Certified results can be overturned by the courts.

(the certifiers can’t change their minds and decertify later though… is that what you meant?)

Sure, some idiots may believe a SCOTUS stacked with conservative judges will just crown Don the Con emperor in full disregard of the election outcome and the constitution, but they won’t.

As I said to Mr P, SCOTUS will throw it to Congress.

Trump wins.

No one in their right mind would think Trump has a chance to win this.

Whatever helps you sleep at night Per.