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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:55 am
by Topper
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 10:44 am
Adjustments.
Trump killing the bipartisan border deal earlier this year to use it as a political football may come back to haunt him. As a former prosecutor I think Kamala will press her advantage on this one. Should make for a good debate. I hope they keep the mics on.
Dude for Prez
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:59 am
by Topper
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 12:50 pm
by 5thhorseman
Trump on Truth Social this morning:
“Zuckerberg admits that the White House pushed to SUPPRESS HUNTER BIDEN LAPTOP STORY (& much more!). IN OTHER WORDS, THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WAS RIGGED. FoxNews, New York Post, Rep. Laurel Lee, House Judiciary Committee.
Sooooo, who was in the White House during the 2020 election?
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:07 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:27 pm
What a big nothing burger, lol. Yeah they "pressured" FB but FB said no. End of story.
"Nothing burger"?
The #1 point is that the Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
You have tried to present yourself as Mr. Free Speech and Mr. Absolute Truth
... and yet now you are laughing off a clear violation of your stated principles?
As to the lesser point, in the letter Zuckerberg said he regrets not pushing back harder on that government pressure...
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:10 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:32 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:24 pm
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:11 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:10 pm
Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11

BREAKING: Former Democrat Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard has endorsed President Trump. Rep. Gabbard says Trump will keep America out of forever wars:
"I am committed to doing all that I can to send President Trump back to the White House."
Boom!!
https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1828137101705257197
You can spot the conspiracy nutjobs by how they refer to Trump.
Right, the nutjobs relentlessly criticize Trump and everyone who supports him...
"President Trump" lol. She's a closet election denier who ignores the results of over 60 court cases. Crazeeeeee!
All ex-Presidents are referred to as President Trump, President Obama, President Bush, President Clinton, etc.
Surely you must have noticed this!
Let's face it, you have a crippling case of Trump Derangement Syndrome...
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:14 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:21 am
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:36 pm
Actually plenty of people refer to former presidents by the title even after they have left office.
Find me some references to "President Obama" that's not historical and I'll believe you.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=%22Presi ... s-wiz-news
Well that took 10 seconds.
Hundreds of (NEWS articles only)
from the last year.
I subtracted the word "former" or there would have been many more results.
(did so because sometimes people say "former President")
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:45 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:14 pm
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:21 am
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:36 pm
Actually plenty of people refer to former presidents by the title even after they have left office.
Find me some references to "President Obama" that's not historical and I'll believe you.
https://www.google.ca/search?q=%22Presi ... s-wiz-news
Well that took 10 seconds.
Hundreds of (NEWS articles only)
from the last year.
I subtracted the word "former" or there would have been many more results.
(did so because sometimes people say "former President")
Lol the first article is from Obama's own website, so yeah okay, maybe he's doing a Walz
The second article is a historical reference to Obama's campaign manager.
The third article doesn't mention" President Obama" at all. It also doesn't refer to FDR, JFK, or George Washington as "President".
The fourth article is from 2016 when Obama was still president.
That's as far as I bothered going. You may yet be right but I'm not seeing it yet.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:07 pm
"Nothing burger"?
The #1 point is that the Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
You have tried to present yourself as Mr. Free Speech and Mr. Absolute Truth
... and yet now you are laughing off a clear violation of your stated principles?
As to the lesser point, in the letter Zuckerberg said he regrets not pushing back harder on that government pressure...
Yeah right there's no violation of free speech here. Free speech still happened.
So what was the nature of this pressure? Were there any threats? I don't think so otherwise Zuckerberg would have said so.
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:22 pm
by Cornuck
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:45 pm
That's as far as I bothered going. You may yet be right but I'm not seeing it yet.
Doc's actually right for a change in this thread.

It's common courtesy.
https://emilypost.com/advice/addressing ... ted-states
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:39 pm
by 5thhorseman
Is he? From that link:
Formally Addressing the Former President
When addressing a former President of the United States in a formal setting, the correct form is “Mr. LastName.” (“President LastName” or “Mr. President” are terms reserved for the current head of state.) This is true for other ex-officials, as well. When talking about the person to a third party, on the other hand, it’s appropriate to say, “former President LastName.” This holds for introductions, as well: A current state governor is introduced as “Governor Tom Smith,” while you’d introduce an ex-governor as “former Governor Jim Bell.”
The site goes on to to mention it's okay in informal settings to refer to former presidents as "President" which is what I mentioned in my reply to Megs. I actually referred to this very website before I responded to him.
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:32 pm
by Topper
At least it is a rank he fully earned and held
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:43 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:07 pm
"Nothing burger"?
The #1 point is that the Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
You have tried to present yourself as Mr. Free Speech and Mr. Absolute Truth
... and yet now you are laughing off a clear violation of your stated principles?
As to the lesser point, in the letter
Zuckerberg said he regrets not pushing back harder on that government pressure...
Yeah right there's no violation of free speech here. Free speech still happened.
What about that part in red, ah nevermind...
All of a sudden Mr. Free Speech is perfectly fine with the American government trying to censor Americans!
Oh what a tangled web you've wove...
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:45 pm
by Topper
1st amendment is a nothing burger
that would more than justify the 2nd amendment.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:47 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:39 pm
it's okay in informal settings to refer to former presidents as "President"
Right, so...
*
knocks on Horsey's forehead*
X is an informal setting.
How this all started…
5thhorseman: “You can spot the conspiracy nutjobs by how they refer to Trump.”
Strangelove: “Right, the nutjobs relentlessly criticize Trump and everyone who supports him...”
5thhorseman: “"President Trump" lol. She's a closet election denier who ignores the results of over 60 court cases. Crazeeeeee!”
Okay, so “she” was posting in an informal setting and referred to “President Trump”. All good.
As I’ve been saying, the only “nutjob” here is you (you lost your shit over dat dere).
Thus endeth the lesson.
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Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:08 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:47 pm
X is an informal setting.
Um no, let's look at what Corn's link calls an informal setting:
In an informal setting (such as a private lunch), it’s acceptable to use the title the ex-official held. Here, you could refer to former President Jimmy Carter as either “President Carter” or “Mr. Carter.” In reality, many people ignore this convention and refer to former Presidents as "President Last Name" when they are in settings where nearly everyone would afford them the honor of the title. Technically, this is still incorrect but there are enough former Presidents allowing this that it has become a somewhat common mistake.
X is obviously nothing like a private lunch or where everybody agrees.
Anyways, I don't really care what the social convention is or to argue over it, my point was that you can identify the nutters as the ones who call him President Trump. They just can't let go of 2020.