Re: 2024 Offseason - moving forward
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 12:52 pm
Ahhh yes, Alberta Beach…..and only a 53 min drive from Edmonton.
Ahhh yes, Alberta Beach…..and only a 53 min drive from Edmonton.
I'm a north shore guy and I know for a fact that both of them want to play here. Whether that happens in the future or not who knows, things change when you get settled in another city, but if you asked me right now I would not be surprised at all if both of them play here at some point during their careers.donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:11 pmFairly arbitrary comment imo.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:04 pm I was born and raised here and I wouldnt want to play here. Most of them don’t.
I'd bet both Bedard and Celebrini would have loved to play here.
Yep Paul still lives in West Van. Sam has a place downtown and lives here in the off-season but doesn't seem to want to play in Van. To each their own I guess.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 7:45 amPaul Reinhart had a successful finance career after his NHL career. You know Paul is advising his son to max his financial earnings on his next contract taking in account tax savings. The tax implications are definitely on the minds of the Reinhart family with Sam’s next and final contract. Paul who I believe still lives in Vancouver I imagine is telling his so to stay the fuck out of Vancouver if he goes to market, lol.rikster wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:51 amNot sure I buy into the no tax argument...
New York and California are heavily taxed States and they don't seem to be bothered when attracting talent...
Not to mention Florida teams are struggling with cap issues like the majority of the league is...
Saw a twitter post saying that on a $3 million dollar contract a Toronto player pays $500,000 more in taxes than a Florida player does...
At todays exchange rate, $3 million US is worth $4.1 million in Canadian dollars, so without understanding any other tax issues that may be involved it seems to me players would want to play in Canada where they get paid in US dollars...
Take care...
NHL players face varying tax rates depending on the city and team they play for. Here are some key points about NHL player tax rates:
1. Players in Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa face some of the highest tax rates, with Montreal having the highest at around 54%.
2. Teams in Alberta (Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers) have the lowest tax rates in the NHL, with players retaining about 61% of their income after taxes.
3. In the United States, California teams (Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose) have some of the highest tax rates, around 53%.
4. Florida teams (Tampa Bay Lightning, Florida Panthers) benefit from no state income tax, with tax rates around 40.5%.
5. The league average income tax rate for a $5 million contract is approximately 46.55%.
6. Teams in states with no income tax, like Texas (Dallas Stars) and Tennessee (Nashville Predators), have lower overall tax rates, around 40.5%.
7. New York teams face relatively high tax rates, with players retaining about 51-52% of their income.
That would certainly seem to sell the argument that it’s more about location, location, location.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:58 pm I asked my AI app to compare the tax rates of NHL players in different cities, and it consistently answered that the lowest tax rates are in Calgary and Edmonton, followed closely by Florida.
NHL players face varying tax rates depending on the city and team they play for. Here are some key points about NHL player tax rates:
1. Players in Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa face some of the highest tax rates, with Montreal having the highest at around 54%.
2. Teams in Alberta (Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers) have the lowest tax rates in the NHL, with players retaining about 61% of their income after taxes.
3. In the United States, California teams (Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose) have some of the highest tax rates, around 53%.
4. Florida teams (Tampa Bay Lightning, Florida Panthers) benefit from no state income tax, with tax rates around 40.5%.
5. The league average income tax rate for a $5 million contract is approximately 46.55%.
6. Teams in states with no income tax, like Texas (Dallas Stars) and Tennessee (Nashville Predators), have lower overall tax rates, around 40.5%.
7. New York teams face relatively high tax rates, with players retaining about 51-52% of their income.
Would be interesting for Dhaliwal or any in the media to ask a player agent if the list of cities players put on their no trade list is tax based or where the city is located or for any other reason?...Mëds wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:28 pmThat would certainly seem to sell the argument that it’s more about location, location, location.5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:58 pm I asked my AI app to compare the tax rates of NHL players in different cities, and it consistently answered that the lowest tax rates are in Calgary and Edmonton, followed closely by Florida.
NHL players face varying tax rates depending on the city and team they play for. Here are some key points about NHL player tax rates:
1. Players in Canadian cities like Montreal, Toronto, and Ottawa face some of the highest tax rates, with Montreal having the highest at around 54%.
2. Teams in Alberta (Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers) have the lowest tax rates in the NHL, with players retaining about 61% of their income after taxes.
3. In the United States, California teams (Anaheim, Los Angeles, San Jose) have some of the highest tax rates, around 53%.
4. Florida teams (Tampa Bay Lightning, Florida Panthers) benefit from no state income tax, with tax rates around 40.5%.
5. The league average income tax rate for a $5 million contract is approximately 46.55%.
6. Teams in states with no income tax, like Texas (Dallas Stars) and Tennessee (Nashville Predators), have lower overall tax rates, around 40.5%.
7. New York teams face relatively high tax rates, with players retaining about 51-52% of their income.
They’re young. Sure they’d be on board with it as they are just simply thrilled to be drafted but once they get some miles on them they’ll be glad they didn’t end up in this fishbowlDiehard1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:04 pmI'm a north shore guy and I know for a fact that both of them want to play here. Whether that happens in the future or not who knows, things change when you get settled in another city, but if you asked me right now I would not be surprised at all if both of them play here at some point during their careers.donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:11 pmFairly arbitrary comment imo.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:04 pm I was born and raised here and I wouldnt want to play here. Most of them don’t.
I'd bet both Bedard and Celebrini would have loved to play here.
Not sure the fishbowl matters to these guys, especially Bedard - he's been dealing with that since he was 15 as the next coming of Crosby, McDavid, etc.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 6:08 amThey’re young. Sure they’d be on board with it as they are just simply thrilled to be drafted but once they get some miles on them they’ll be glad they didn’t end up in this fishbowlDiehard1 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 2:04 pmI'm a north shore guy and I know for a fact that both of them want to play here. Whether that happens in the future or not who knows, things change when you get settled in another city, but if you asked me right now I would not be surprised at all if both of them play here at some point during their careers.donlever wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:11 pmFairly arbitrary comment imo.Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Mon Jun 24, 2024 7:04 pm I was born and raised here and I wouldnt want to play here. Most of them don’t.
I'd bet both Bedard and Celebrini would have loved to play here.
Fishbowls, wives, climate etc- it's all part of the equation. I think that at a certain stage of a player's career, the needs will change.Diehard1 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 12:46 pm Not sure the fishbowl matters to these guys, especially Bedard - he's been dealing with that since he was 15 as the next coming of Crosby, McDavid, etc.
I definitely agree that who knows what they'll want to do in the future, it depends on family more than anything. Need to find out where their future wives/girlfriends are from because that will hold as much weight as anything else.
Nice, took a hundred thousand pay cut.theman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 pm Blueger re-signed, 2 years, 1.8 mil per
https://x.com/dhaliwalsports/status/180 ... s1igZokqEQ
TSN is saying 1 year not 2 but same $ amountPicker of Cherries wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:27 pmNice, took a hundred thousand pay cut.theman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 pm Blueger re-signed, 2 years, 1.8 mil per
https://x.com/dhaliwalsports/status/180 ... s1igZokqEQ
TSN has corrected their tweet, it is 2 yearstheman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:35 pmTSN is saying 1 year not 2 but same $ amountPicker of Cherries wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:27 pmNice, took a hundred thousand pay cut.theman wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 3:15 pm Blueger re-signed, 2 years, 1.8 mil per
https://x.com/dhaliwalsports/status/180 ... s1igZokqEQ
