Just Not ready

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Per wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 1:07 am With the caveat that I'm not that well read up on Canadian politics, from an outside view it would certainly seem that within the liberal spectrum (which is quite wide) Trudeau is more left wing and Carney more right wing.
On that I would say most certainly.

In general Canada’s political spectrum from Left to Right was NDP/Green - Liberal - Conservative - PPC (if they even exist anymore.

Under Trudeau is was Liberal - NDP/Green - Conservatives.
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Mëds wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:37 pm Strange for us to agree on anything, but I would certainly be the +4 after Reef on that comment.
Well, it won't last long unfortunately - going to have to disagree with you here:
Mëds wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:37 pm I don’t care what anyone’s opinion is of Israel and their actions as a nation towards their neighbors…..the antisemitism we are seeming in Canada should stamped out immediately. I’m hearing nothing it crickets from the Liberals on that. Likely because they are afraid that standing up for Canadian citizens with a Jewish heritage will be seen as endorsing Israel’s wars. Which is bullshit. If the Libs can endorse and defend Canadian Islamic’s and Sikh’s, despite the atrocities committed by their extremist groups, the acts of terror, the crimes against humanity perpetrated by Muslim governments (most notably right now Iran), then the same should go for Israeli-Canadians. But it doesn’t.
Firstly, I'll say, I will agree with you, that the antisemitism in Canada that is on the rise is very concerning. Hate for some reason is becoming normalized, and it is scary.

But your comparison is just off.

Canada expressed their support in removing the regime in Iran, just not a full-scale war. No one wants that (other than a group of nutjobs in the US).

I'd ask you, why aren't we supporting a regime change in Israel? Just the fact that Netanyahu is still in power there, shows how backwards the thinking is here. He has done WAY more damage to another group of people than any Islamic or Sikh terrorist has.
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JelloPuddingPop wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 7:32 am I'd ask you, why aren't we supporting a regime change in Israel? Just the fact that Netanyahu is still in power there, shows how backwards the thinking is here. He has done WAY more damage to another group of people than any Islamic or Sikh terrorist has.
I'd add that Netanyahu may be one of the main factors behind rising antisemitism.

People have a hard time differentiating between Israel and Jews.
Thus when the Israeli government does something bad, Jews around the world, who really have nothing to do with it, end up being attacked.

The guy driving a car into a synagogue somewhere in the USA the other day is a prime example.
I'm pretty sure he saw it as retaliation for the Israelis bombing Lebanon.
I'm also pretty sure no one in that synagogue had anything to do with that.
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JelloPuddingPop wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 7:32 am
Mëds wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:37 pm Strange for us to agree on anything, but I would certainly be the +4 after Reef on that comment.
Well, it won't last long unfortunately - going to have to disagree with you here:
Mëds wrote: Thu Mar 12, 2026 9:37 pm I don’t care what anyone’s opinion is of Israel and their actions as a nation towards their neighbors…..the antisemitism we are seeming in Canada should stamped out immediately. I’m hearing nothing it crickets from the Liberals on that. Likely because they are afraid that standing up for Canadian citizens with a Jewish heritage will be seen as endorsing Israel’s wars. Which is bullshit. If the Libs can endorse and defend Canadian Islamic’s and Sikh’s, despite the atrocities committed by their extremist groups, the acts of terror, the crimes against humanity perpetrated by Muslim governments (most notably right now Iran), then the same should go for Israeli-Canadians. But it doesn’t.
Firstly, I'll say, I will agree with you, that the antisemitism in Canada that is on the rise is very concerning. Hate for some reason is becoming normalized, and it is scary.

But your comparison is just off.

Canada expressed their support in removing the regime in Iran, just not a full-scale war. No one wants that (other than a group of nutjobs in the US).
True. However, I actually wasn’t referring to the current situation in Iran at all.

I was referring to statements during the Trudeau era that condemned and accused people of Islamophobia when people had legitimate concerns about the immigration and asylum/refugee polices that were throwing the doors wide open to immigrants from Muslim countries. And then derided the as bigots when these voices were calling for justice when Muslim men were reported to be sexually abusing and assaulting women, and Muslim Imams were calling for legalization of Shariah law in Quebec to justify the behaviours…..even though the victims were neither Muslim nor having any origins in Muslim countries.

Right now we see a government that is tolerating antisemitism, which is actually condoning it via inaction btw, and a media that justifies it by pointing to the actions of a foreign government from which Jewish Canadians derive their heritage.

The actions of Netanyahu and his cabinet should have ZERO bearing on how we treat our own citizens.
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Mëds wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:25 am True. However, I actually wasn’t referring to the current situation in Iran at all.
Really?
Mëds wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:25 am the crimes against humanity perpetrated by Muslim governments (most notably right now Iran)
Mëds wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:25 am I was referring to statements during the Trudeau era...
Weren't we talking about Carney? Why are we still living in the "Trudeau era"
Mëds wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2026 9:25 am Right now we see a government that is tolerating antisemitism, which is actually condoning it via inaction btw
How do you condone something by inaction? Do I condone eating hotdogs, when I'm not eating hotdogs??

That goalpost moved so fast, I just about got whiplash.

Nevermind Mëds, back to keeping me on ignore...
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Canadian section of an airbase in Kuwait was attacked by an Iranian missile on March 1st.

Today, March 13th, a Quebec news outlet reported the event. The first public notification of the event.

Carney, in the NWT today, when asked about it and why the government didn't notify Canadians, "I'm not the only spokesperson for the government."

He and his Ministers flew in the PM's Canadair and upon arrival boarded a C-130 for a staged photo op walking out the rear door of the C-130 as though they'd just flown in. Just scrap the fake performative announcements.

Yukon Premier is complaining of being left out of the defense spending on the north, I guess the Yukon MP has to much integrity to cross the floor.
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