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micky107 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:08 am

Reefer2 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:05 am So I guess no upgrades to the D except through FA, I guess that is a good thing.

He could still get that 1st back in another trade; right?
He otta

DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:22 am

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:01 am I’m not happy with this trade. Benning has drafted some good 1st rounders. Now he gives one away when we are still a long way away from being a contender.

I am in disbelief right now. I thought we were seeing progression from JB in his asset management - instead it is right back to overpaying with picks and this may be the largest overpayment we have seen from him.

He should have been trading from a position of strength (in that he was trading with a cash strapped team who just extended JT) but instead it seems he was completely exploited.

Wow.

Caveat: I do like JT but
1) not at this price; and
2) particularly not at this price from a team that was in cap trouble; and
3) not when considering the market value we are seeing for players from other cash strapped teams.

Diehard1 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:25 am

DonCherry4PM wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:22 am

Hockey Widow wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:01 am I’m not happy with this trade. Benning has drafted some good 1st rounders. Now he gives one away when we are still a long way away from being a contender.

I am in disbelief right now. I thought we were seeing progression from JB in his asset management - instead it is right back to overpaying with picks and this may be the largest overpayment we have seen from him.

He should have been trading from a position of strength (in that he was trading with a cash strapped team who just extended JT) but instead it seems he was completely exploited.

Wow.

Caveat: I do like JT but
1) not at this price; and
2) particularly not at this price from a team that was in cap trouble; and
3) not when considering the market value we are seeing for players from other cash strapped teams.

Exactly, massive overpayment. Go get Colin Miller from Vegas for something small, that’s how you upgrade your team. You do not give away 1st round picks when you are rebuilding.

Something tells me Jimbo thinks this team is better than it is.

theman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:59 am Like many are saying, can't understand why we gave up the first. At least it is lottery protected I guess. His trades are horrible it seems.

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:31 am A 1st round pick for JT Miller???

Did we hire Chiarelli or something and I missed it?

ESQ wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:31 am

theman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:59 am Like many are saying, can't understand why we gave up the first. At least it is lottery protected I guess. His trades are horrible it seems.

Ya I'm a pretty big Benning fan, but I really don't like this trade.

Benning is so deadly in the first round, I hate to see him move a 1rp. Particularly for a 2nd liner.

I suppose at the cost of Guddy, a 1st and a 3rd Benning has acquired two more top-6 wingers.

The only way this makes sense is if Benning knows Loui is gone without any retention. If he retires after getting his bonus, that explains the family moving back to Dallas. But if that is the case, I'd rather see Loui's cap space used on Marleau 's buy out and acquire an extra 1st.

And 3 playoff goals in 61 games does not scream 1st rounder value.

ESQ wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:31 am

theman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 10:59 am Like many are saying, can't understand why we gave up the first. At least it is lottery protected I guess. His trades are horrible it seems.

Ya I'm a pretty big Benning fan, but I really don't like this trade.

Benning is so deadly in the first round, I hate to see him move a 1rp. Particularly for a 2nd liner.

I suppose at the cost of Guddy, a 1st and a 3rd Benning has acquired two more top-6 wingers.

The only way this makes sense is if Benning knows Loui is gone without any retention. If he retires after getting his bonus, that explains the family moving back to Dallas. But if that is the case, I'd rather see Loui's cap space used on Marleau 's buy out and acquire an extra 1st.

And 3 playoff goals in 61 games does not scream 1st rounder value.

J.T. Miller is an experienced and versatile offensive contributor," Canucks general manager Jim Benning said in a statement. "This deal is about acquiring a player who can have an immediate impact in our top-six forward group for term."

micky107 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:24 am If he can't get to N.A. sooner, It'll be difficult if not impossible for him to get time on NHL size ice, so;
That begs the question; Would there be anything stopping him from getting in some time with some other players on
small ice in the summer? Even if it is just f**king around.
Consider two years in KHL, then how long to adjust to NHL, (style), ice size and speed.

Per wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

micky107 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:24 am If he can't get to N.A. sooner, It'll be difficult if not impossible for him to get time on NHL size ice, so;
That begs the question; Would there be anything stopping him from getting in some time with some other players on
small ice in the summer? Even if it is just f**king around.
Consider two years in KHL, then how long to adjust to NHL, (style), ice size and speed.

How much time did Petey need?

micky107 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:06 pm

Per wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:59 am

micky107 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:24 am If he can't get to N.A. sooner, It'll be difficult if not impossible for him to get time on NHL size ice, so;
That begs the question; Would there be anything stopping him from getting in some time with some other players on
small ice in the summer? Even if it is just f**king around.
Consider two years in KHL, then how long to adjust to NHL, (style), ice size and speed.

How much time did Petey need?

He's not a Russian, mm