Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Hockey Widow]

Well as usual, I got that one wrong:


NHL CBA Player Movement Changes

No movement clauses or no-trade clauses will now travel with players, even if they agree to lift it once. The acquiring team was previously required to agree to keep the NMC or NTC, but now it’s automatic.

[Cousin Strawberry]

MCP this is coming out of a lot of sources. This isn’t your standard rumour. There is a shitload of smoke here.

Yup. This ones close to happening i reckon

[Strangelove]

Difficult not to cringe at OEL's 8.25 for seven years taking him to 36+ .NMC, all the way..

No one likes that contract but OEL will be 35 when it ends.

And looking at it now, let's say for some reason OEL is washed up at the end of the 2024-25 season at age 33.

Okay, we trade him Marleau-style to a team that buys him out.

Would cost that team $7M in real dollars spread over 4 years.

Would cost us... a 1st round pick?

Yeah, I'm getting on board if this helps us unload Loui, depending on the particulars of course...

[Cousin Strawberry]

Yeah, I'm getting on board if this helps us unload Loui, depending on the particulars of course...

The deal absolutely has to have Eriksson going thataway to make it worth Vancouvers while.

[Chef Boi RD]

The future in NOW mutherfuckers.

Benning will be pushing his balls around in a wheelbarrow if he can close on that rumoured deal. I'm sure it'll include the complimentary 2nd rounder that always seems to be attached but what the hell...i want the canucks to win the fuckin cup already

Yeah.... no. The future is in the next 2-10 years. Some people have no patience for a rebuild. Let the bad contracts expire, and move forward with the kids.

2 to 10 years? Isn’t that the patient Buffalo Sabres rebuild model? They are about to draft their 8th top 8 lottery pick in a row. I don’t think the Sabre fans are very happy these days. About as happy as Eichel is with the losing culture

Chicken Strings, who said anything about the Buffalo Sabres? The Canucks best players are soon to be 21 and 22. I’d like to see a long competitive window for 8 or 10 years. I don’t mention the Sabres. Get your eyes checked.

The Long Patient Rebuild is a shit show, doesn’t work, it creates a losing culture. I worry Eichel is permanently damaged like Taylor Hall from enduring the “patient” rebuild you so pine for. It’s fools gold.

[Chef Boi RD]

Yeah, I'm getting on board if this helps us unload Loui, depending on the particulars of course...

The deal absolutely has to have Eriksson going thataway to make it worth Vancouvers while.

I’d only consider a deal if they take Loui (and Loui accepts. NTC) and the Yotes retain $2.25 million per. Leaves us paying $6 million per on his remaining term. Going the other way Olli Juolevi

They only have to deal with Louis cap for 2 season, he is paid our way less over the remaining 2.

[Strangelove]

Dude, the Desert Dogs are not going to retain for 7 years.

I figure OEL is overpaid by a cool million per, but I'll take him at the rumoured discounted price.

Loui + Juolevi + Hoglander + 2nd

Works for me...

[Chef Boi RD]

Dude, the Desert Dogs are not going to retain for 7 years.

I figure OEL is overpaid by a cool million per, but I'll take him at the rumoured discounted price.

Loui + Juolevi _ Hoglander + 2nd

Works for me...

$7 million I’d do for the entire term, if not, no thanks. And no way in hell Im trading Hoglander

Hey Doc, is Doyle out to lunch?

[Strangelove]

Dude, the Desert Dogs are not going to retain for 7 years.

I figure OEL is overpaid by a cool million per, but I'll take him at the rumoured discounted price.

Loui + Juolevi _ Hoglander + 2nd

Works for me...

$7 million I’d do for the entire term, if not, no thanks. And no way in hell Im trading Hoglander

Oh you're trading him and his hype.

Gotta give to get, OEL is a top pairing dman in his prime.

Hey Doc, is Doyle out to lunch?

IMPO Mr. Hargraves is as crazy as a hoot owl.

[Chef Boi RD]

IMPO Mr. Hargraves is as crazy as a hoot owl.

He certainly fits the profile

[Blob Mckenzie]

Zuckerman your reading skills are awful. Lay off the glass beak amigo.

[Richardstroker69]

Dude, the Desert Dogs are not going to retain for 7 years.

I figure OEL is overpaid by a cool million per, but I'll take him at the rumoured discounted price.

Loui + Juolevi + Hoglander + 2nd

Works for me...

Yeah if that’s the package it’s a no brainer, we get to keep rathbone and podkolzin, and get a top pairing dman, with a fairly buyout friendly contract for his last couple of years. Having oel or Hughes on the ice for 50 minutes a night will be amazing for the next 4-5 years.

[Curmudgeon]

People are really underestimating the financial ramifications of COVID, including the Canucks apparently. IF there's a vaccine by spring, it still won't be available to the masses and life certainly won't be anywhere near back to normal and normal includes full hockey arenas. They've already said a full bubble scenario is not going to be repeated and NHL revenues are at least 50% gate driven so I'd be preparing for the reality of no NHL season by then and a flat cap for 5 years minimum with several teams being sold. If a miracle happens, like a mass produced and distributed vaccine and even a semi normalized North America, the NHL should consider itself very fortunate.

OEL is a fine player but that contract is going to be a problem sooner than later just based on the numbers and the Canucks needing to ante up on Pettersson and Hughes, being stuck with an overpaid Myers, and the Boeser steep qualifying offer. That doesn't even include re-signing any of their own UFA's this offseason and ultimately having to do another deal for Horvat. Add to it the natural decline in play, and hey he's sure getting a lot of dough and term for coming nowhere near a Norris Trophy, and the cost to get him if it includes any one of Podkolzin, Hoglander, or Rathbone.

This is not a deal they should be making IMO.

[Blob Mckenzie]

People are really underestimating the financial ramifications of COVID, including the Canucks apparently. IF there's a vaccine by spring, it still won't be available to the masses and life certainly won't be anywhere near back to normal and normal includes full hockey arenas. They've already said a full bubble scenario is not going to be repeated and NHL revenues are at least 50% gate driven so I'd be preparing for the reality of no NHL season by then and a flat cap for 5 years minimum with several teams being sold. If a miracle happens, like a mass produced and distributed vaccine and even a semi normalized North America, the NHL should consider itself very fortunate.

OEL is a fine player but that contract is going to be a problem sooner than later just based on the numbers and the Canucks needing to ante up on Pettersson and Hughes, being stuck with an overpaid Myers, and the Boeser steep qualifying offer. That doesn't even include re-signing any of their own UFA's this offseason and ultimately having to do another deal for Horvat. Add to it the natural decline in play, and hey he's sure getting a lot of dough and term for coming nowhere near a Norris Trophy, and the cost to get him if it includes any one of Podkolzin, Hoglander, or Rathbone.

This is not a deal they should be making IMO.

Some folks seem puzzled about the flat cap for the next few years

[Strangelove]

People are really underestimating the financial ramifications of COVID, including the Canucks apparently. IF there's a vaccine by spring, it still won't be available to the masses and life certainly won't be anywhere near back to normal and normal includes full hockey arenas. They've already said a full bubble scenario is not going to be repeated and NHL revenues are at least 50% gate driven so I'd be preparing for the reality of no NHL season by then and a flat cap for 5 years minimum with several teams being sold. If a miracle happens, like a mass produced and distributed vaccine and even a semi normalized North America, the NHL should consider itself very fortunate.

OEL is a fine player but that contract is going to be a problem sooner than later just based on the numbers and the Canucks needing to ante up on Pettersson and Hughes, being stuck with an overpaid Myers, and the Boeser steep qualifying offer. That doesn't even include re-signing any of their own UFA's this offseason and ultimately having to do another deal for Horvat. Add to it the natural decline in play, and hey he's sure getting a lot of dough and term for coming nowhere near a Norris Trophy, and the cost to get him if it includes any one of Podkolzin, Hoglander, or Rathbone.

This is not a deal they should be making IMO.

Some folks seem puzzled about the flat cap for the next few years

Pretty sure everyone knows the cap will be flat for 3 seasons.

After that I'm betting Covid is just a bad memory and the cap takes off again.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if as soon as the 2020-21 playoffs there is vaccine available to the masses and full arenas.