Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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Might as well call the new era of hockey “the season of the defenceman”. The Norris Trophy battles are going to be insane for the next decade - Makar, Hughes, Heiskenen, Jones, Chabot, Provorov, Werenski, Dahlin....
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Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
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theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
Could you explain the illegal testing to me Tman?
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rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:22 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
Could you explain the illegal testing to me Tman?
If memory serves, that were doing physicals of draft prospects illegally. (teams are only allowed to do it at a combine)
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theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:29 am
rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:22 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
Could you explain the illegal testing to me Tman?
If memory serves, that were doing physicals of draft prospects illegally. (teams are only allowed to do it at a combine)
Combine meaning... all teams testing at the same time?

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rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:42 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:29 am
rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:22 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
Could you explain the illegal testing to me Tman?
If memory serves, that were doing physicals of draft prospects illegally. (teams are only allowed to do it at a combine)
Combine meaning... all teams testing at the same time?

Sorry to be so daft
Yes. Apparently they had people testing these drafties during the junior season, highly illegal.
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theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:46 am
rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:42 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:29 am
rats19 wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:22 am
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
Could you explain the illegal testing to me Tman?
If memory serves, that were doing physicals of draft prospects illegally. (teams are only allowed to do it at a combine)
Combine meaning... all teams testing at the same time?

Sorry to be so daft
Yes. Apparently they had people testing these drafties during the junior season, highly illegal.
Serves them right then... lol

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https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/co ... violation/

This part is VERY interesting , IMO.
“While the Combine Testing Policy Memoranda reference a fine of ‘no less than $250,000 for each violation’ of the Policy, I exercise my discretion to impose the aforementioned discipline — which I consider to be more appropriate given the specific circumstances of this case,” Bettman said in his ruling.
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True but just don't get caught. lol

Apparently Arizona doesn't have a pick in the first 4 rounds of this year's draft now. Ouch. Especially for a budget conscious team and now have no first next year.
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if they had the option they should of/have taken the $250k fine instead.

Losing 2 picks - ouch.
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theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
NHL announces that Coyotes must forfeit their 2020 2nd-round pick and 2021 1st-round pick for violating the league's combine testing policy.
And they don't have a 2020 1st from UFA Taylor Hall deal.

So that leaves them with what, no picks till 4th round 2020, and that conditional pick next year if Hall re-signs they lose that 2nd, if no re-sign it's a 3rd), so basically no picks till 4th round again in 2021.

NHL drops the hammer, don't be breaking the rules and pre-testing scouting pre-drafted players/prospects.
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SKYO wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:06 pm
theman wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:18 am Coyotes have been stripped of their 2nd round pick this year and first round next year for their illegal testing of junior players. Good! For a cap cautious team, that's a huge loss and a bigger punishment than I thought they would get.
NHL announces that Coyotes must forfeit their 2020 2nd-round pick and 2021 1st-round pick for violating the league's combine testing policy.
And they don't have a 2020 1st from UFA Taylor Hall deal.

So that leaves them with what, no picks till 4th round 2020, and that conditional pick next year if Hall re-signs they lose that 2nd, if no re-sign it's a 3rd), so basically no picks till 4th round again in 2021.

NHL drops the hammer, don't be breaking the rules and pre-testing scouting pre-drafted players/prospects.
Wow, that is a savage ruling from Bettmab - against his favuorite franchise, no less!

Poor Coyotes, they fucked the future for a year of Hall and some early phsyical testing of prospects, now they have now 1-3 round picks for two years.

I really can't understand the punishment, its one of the stupidest offences I can imagine. There's no way they wouldn't have gotten found out, with a bunch of 17 year olds on junior teams having to keep it secret. It must have been the idiocy of their management not even being aware of the rules. But still, its totally bizarre. Maybe having the billionaire owner's son as VP hockey ops played into this?
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Seems like Chayka really fucked them over.
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Maybe the AZ owner got a hold of that info before hand, and maybe that's another factor in Chayka leaving on top of him receiving a job offer from New Jersey, where he would be overseeing multiple sports companies.

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/295 ... hayka-quit

In any case, as Carl said, Chayka left behind a mess.
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