The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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ESQ wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:49 pm
Chef Boi RD wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:38 am 4 years in a row knocked out in the first round. That has to say something about the top of the lineup
Not to nitpick, but *technically* the leaves didn't make it to the 1st round this year, so their ten year tank n rebuild got them to three first round exits, time to start over.

Tuna, your thoughts?
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Micky wrote: Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:39 pm
I don;t care how much they make or what their production on the score-sheets. You can't build a team without character.
Creeps, pretty boys and prima donnas galore.
Is it the jersey? Is it the city? Is it the Omen? Torontolar degeneration.
I am inclined to agree with you, which is also why I've never wished Benning had drafted Tkachuk. 8-)
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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And so it begins.....

Kapanen on his way to Pittsburgh.

Jesper Lindgren thrown in as well.

Apparently the pair of them are worth a 1st round pick.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
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Re: The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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The Maple leaves have acquired the Penguins' first round selection in the 2020 NHL Draft (15th overall), F Evan Rodrigues, F Filip Hallander and D David Warsofsky in exchange for F Kasperi Kapanen, F Pontus Aberg and D Jesper Lindgren.
Kapanen is just what Pens need. 24 yrs old. Be better off there. TO ripping away to survive.
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Clears 3.2 million off the cap for Toronto and they get a first round pick. Solid move for them. I wonder what kind of pick Jake could fetch. I don’t think he’s a worse player than Kapanen
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 am Clears 3.2 million off the cap for Toronto and they get a first round pick. Solid move for them.
I agree its a solid re-building move, but certainly makes them worse in the short-term.

Its a little bit of a surprising move from Pittsburgh, but they have a history of turning 3rd-line wingers into top-line offensive producers with Crosby and Malkin.

Had it not been for the Tavares contract, they'd probably still have Kadri, Kapanen, and Brown, plus their own pick this year. Those three players combined for 115 points this past season. Kadri has more playoff goals than Tavares has scored in his Leaves career.

Is Dubas the man to lead the Leaves through another rebuild? Tuna, your thoughts?
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I like Kapanen, but 15th overall pick for him?? knowing the Leaves are in cap hell, Rutherford overpaid.

Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples leaves getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky
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ESQ wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:15 am
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:36 am Clears 3.2 million off the cap for Toronto and they get a first round pick. Solid move for them.
I agree its a solid re-building move, but certainly makes them worse in the short-term.

Its a little bit of a surprising move from Pittsburgh, but they have a history of turning 3rd-line wingers into top-line offensive producers with Crosby and Malkin.

Had it not been for the Tavares contract, they'd probably still have Kadri, Kapanen, and Brown, plus their own pick this year. Those three players combined for 115 points this past season. Kadri has more playoff goals than Tavares has scored in his Leaves career.

Is Dubas the man to lead the Leaves through another rebuild? Tuna, your thoughts?
I don’t think it’s a rebuilding move. They just wanted to clear some cap and got a high pick for a tweener forward. They have enough tweener wingers in the organization.

Rutherford has made some really dumb deals lately.
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:56 am
I don’t think it’s a rebuilding move. They just wanted to clear some cap and got a high pick for a tweener forward. They have enough tweener wingers in the organization.

Rutherford has made some really dumb deals lately.
Trading a roster player for a pick isn't a rebuilding move?

Does it make the team better next year? If not, to me that's a rebuilding move. Not that it really matters one way or the other, but its kinda funny with all the ink that was spilled over whether Benning was doing a "rebuild" or not in his early years.
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ESQ wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:41 pm
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:56 am
I don’t think it’s a rebuilding move. They just wanted to clear some cap and got a high pick for a tweener forward. They have enough tweener wingers in the organization.

Rutherford has made some really dumb deals lately.
Trading a roster player for a pick isn't a rebuilding move?

Does it make the team better next year? If not, to me that's a rebuilding move. Not that it really matters one way or the other, but its kinda funny with all the ink that was spilled over whether Benning was doing a "rebuild" or not in his early years.
They cleared cap space and moved a redundant player for a high pick.Theyll spend the cap somewhere else
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Penguins win the trade, they get a known quality asset, one of the fastest skaters in the game, while Kyle Dumbass gets a whole bunch of unknowns. One would expect, considering Tavares isn’t exactly a youngen that now is the time to win. But Dumbass screwed himself by signing a player he shouldn’t have - Tavares and gives too much to Marner (such an overrated player at his cost) Great steal by Rutherford, the 2020 first round takes a hard core nose dive after the 12th pick, it will be years until the Laffs know what they have with the pick. Years!!
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SKYO wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:41 am I like Kapanen, but 15th overall pick for him?? knowing the Leaves are in cap hell, Rutherford overpaid.

Details for Penguins:
RW Kasperi Kapanen
D Jesper Lindgren
LW Pontus Aberg

Maples Leaves getting:
2020 Rd 1 pick (15 overall)
LW Evan Rodrigues
C Filip Hallander
D David Warsofsky
Agreed, it seems Rutherford overpaid considering everyone knew Leaves had to move Kap/Johnsson/Kerfoot to get under the cap.

But Kapanen by far held the most value of those three.

It appears Rutherford gave up on Hallander... and he must feel Lindgren/Aberg can be NHLers.

(Lindgren had a great season last year)

Rutherford feels Kappy can be a solid top sixer with Crosby/Malkin obviously.

But yup, Rutherford should have done better than this considering the Leaves were in cap hell.

Well they still are really...
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:41 pm Penguins win the trade, they get a known quality asset, one of the fastest skaters in the game, while Kyle Dumbass gets a whole bunch of unknowns. One would expect, considering Tavares isn’t exactly a youngen that now is the time to win. But Dumbass screwed himself by signing a player he shouldn’t have - Tavares and gives too much to Marner (such an overrated player at his cost) Great steal by Rutherford, the 2020 first round takes a hard core nose dive after the 12th pick, it will be years until the Laffs know what they have with the pick. Years!!
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The Laughs now have the 15th OA pick. I wonder if Dumbass is busy looking for the smallest kid they can find to draft....they love their teenie weenies
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