Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

[Mickey107]

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Dump and to hell with chase, ye-ha!

[Cousin Strawberry]

The ghost of skullets' past is in a hysterical perma-rage about Mike Gillis and Kenny Holland. It really must have been a traumatic tossing

I wonder if he got his salad tossed as well.

All signs point to young chef being the Tosser not the Tossee...hence the rage

[Meds]

Berkshire of the opinion that it's time for Montreal and Carey Price to part ways.

Interesting thought actually, it's not because Price is a problem, rather that it would be the most fair to the player in this situation to give him a fresh start somewhere else.

Personally I can't see it happening unless Montreal retains nearly half of his salary. I mean, the guy is going to be 33 this year, so anyone wanting him will essentially be looking at a $10.5M goaltender for 6 more years who is likely already playing into the first years of natural decline.

Granted there is no recapture on his contract should he retire early, but it's not exactly back-diving, so there's very little chance of him walking away from that kind of cash early on.

That's a good example of why Elmer needs to be very very savvy in how he handles Markstrom this spring/summer.

[Tciso]

Berkshire of the opinion that it's time for Montreal and Carey Price to part ways.

Interesting thought actually, it's not because Price is a problem, rather that it would be the most fair to the player in this situation to give him a fresh start somewhere else.

Personally I can't see it happening unless Montreal retains nearly half of his salary. I mean, the guy is going to be 33 this year, so anyone wanting him will essentially be looking at a $10.5M goaltender for 6 more years who is likely already playing into the first years of natural decline.

Granted there is no recapture on his contract should he retire early, but it's not exactly back-diving, so there's very little chance of him walking away from that kind of cash early on.

That's a good example of why Elmer needs to be very very savvy in how he handles Markstrom this spring/summer.

Yup. Any time you are the highest bidder for a free agent, you risk making him un-tradeable. Hopefully, Marky accepts a nice 4 year $5.5/year deal without a NMC. Fair to everyone, IMO.

[Mickey107]

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[Meds]

Berkshire of the opinion that it's time for Montreal and Carey Price to part ways.

Interesting thought actually, it's not because Price is a problem, rather that it would be the most fair to the player in this situation to give him a fresh start somewhere else.

Personally I can't see it happening unless Montreal retains nearly half of his salary. I mean, the guy is going to be 33 this year, so anyone wanting him will essentially be looking at a $10.5M goaltender for 6 more years who is likely already playing into the first years of natural decline.

Granted there is no recapture on his contract should he retire early, but it's not exactly back-diving, so there's very little chance of him walking away from that kind of cash early on.

That's a good example of why Elmer needs to be very very savvy in how he handles Markstrom this spring/summer.

Yup. Any time you are the highest bidder for a free agent, you risk making him un-tradeable. Hopefully, Marky accepts a nice 4 year $5.5/year deal without a NMC. Fair to everyone, IMO.

Based on his body of work over the past 12 months (and assuming it continues) I would go as high as $6.5M for him, but only on a 3 year term. He's 30 this month, so that would take him to 33.

Ideally we either are sold on Demko by the end of 2021 or we know what we have in Dipietro and bring him up and trade Thatcher next season.

I really don't see Markstrom being an easy trade if he's making ~ $6M beyond the age of 33.....

[Hockey Widow]

For sure need to be mindful of Markstrom's age. He has in all likelihood, 3-5 years left at peak. Barring injuries of course. But we also know that the expansion draft is coming up. We all know this.

I could live with a three year deal around 6.5-7.5. A 5 year deal at 5.5-6. The shorter the deal the more he is going to want to capitalize. We really need to get Demko inmate but with us being in the playoff hunt wisdom is you go with your proven starter more often than not.

[Meds]

For sure need to be mindful of Markstrom's age. He has in all likelihood, 3-5 years left at peak. Barring injuries of course. But we also know that the expansion draft is coming up. We all know this.

I could live with a three year deal around 6.5-7.5. A 5 year deal at 5.5-6. The shorter the deal the more he is going to want to capitalize. We really need to get Demko inmate but with us being in the playoff hunt wisdom is you go with your proven starter more often than not.

Yeah, in regards to Demko I agree. How many times have we seen goalies around the league get a middle of the road cap hit with 4 years of term after one or two seasons in a limited back up role where they put up crazy numbers only to crash back into the lower end of mediocrity when they had to play more than 35 games in a season.

I don't think Markstrom should be given more than $6.5M. He's been great for 12 months, 16 if he carries on into April and plays well in the post-season. But, barring him putting the team on his back en route to a Stanley Cup Final birth, that's a limited sample size to be committing more too.

Ideally, if Markstrom is going to be our starter for more than another 3 years, DiPietro is brought up next February and we see Demko traded. Not because I don't like Demko, but rather I would like to see us actually groom a goaltender behind a proven starter where the up and coming guy has the opportunity to take the reigns when he's somewhere between 24 and 26 years old, and we can lock him up to max term knowing that we aren't going to be paying a guy top dollar, or trying to trade a huge cap hit, when he's still got several years left and is already starting to decline.

Demko just turned 24, and will be 25, he's also going to need a new contract next summer. This means that at 26 years old we will be trying to get him under contract for a reasonable price to once again be Markstrom's backup for at least 2 seasons. If we have what we hope we have there, then there's no way we can do that.....and even if we somehow could convince him to go 2 more years at as low as $3M, we'd be shelling out hugely for him at 28 years of age and have 5 years max of peak performance. So at that point we either overpay him by at least $1.5M to shave off 3 years and stay way from max term, or we're stuck with a potentially declining asset at the going rate for several years.



I think I just convinced myself that we should trade Demko, Sutter, and a 1st, this spring to Detroit for their 1st rounder.

Then sign someone like Elliot, Kincaid, Dell, or Miller, to backup Markstrom for a season and groom DiPietro in come 2021.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Yup good points all around there Mëds.

Demko may well be the better option in a few years but he wont resign in Van to open gates. He will want to start somewhere and we should be able to turn him into a useful piece.

[Chef Boi RD]

Markstrom is staying, Demko will eventually get the Schneider treatment

He’s an LA kid. Quick is fading fast. Apparently, according to Doyle, LA has prospects coming out of their YingYang

[ESQ]

If he's exposed, Demko will be claimed in the expansion draft.

Maybe they are better off to trade him, then Seattle will have to take a - Beagle, Roussel and Ferland would all be exposed.

[Carl Yagro]

I must be the only one here who thinks it's better to keep the younger goalie.

I like Marky but he will start to trend down pretty soon. He's had less than 2 years as an above average NHL goalie. Can't overrate him.

Sign him to a friendly contract, see what happens... then sell high.

I really have no faith in midget Dipietro ever becoming more than a journeyman backup.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Markstrom is staying, Demko will eventually get the Schneider treatment

He’s an LA kid. Quick is fading fast. Apparently, according to Doyle, LA has prospects coming out of their YingYang

Well i just took a peek at their cupboards and it has a few ok pieces in there but fuck all really. They wont move a pick or any of their better prospects considering their lot in life so it would have to be a vet.

No thanks to any of that crap

[Cousin Strawberry]

I must be the only one here who thinks it's better to keep the younger goalie.

I like Marky but he will start to trend down pretty soon. He's had less than 2 years as an above average NHL goalie. Can't overrate him.

Sign him to a friendly contract, see what happens... then sell high.

I really have no faith in midget Dipietro ever becoming more than a journeyman backup.

I would agree but the way things are playing out it will be lose marky to ufa or trade demko for something useful.

Given those choices...where are you leaning?

[Meds]

I must be the only one here who thinks it's better to keep the younger goalie.

I like Marky but he will start to trend down pretty soon. He's had less than 2 years as an above average NHL goalie. Can't overrate him.

Sign him to a friendly contract, see what happens... then sell high.

I really have no faith in midget Dipietro ever becoming more than a journeyman backup.

He’s 6 feet and change.....when did that become midget?

Marty Brodeur was 6’1” and change.....wasn’t he pretty good?