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Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:10 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:43 pm
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:48 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 2:07 pm
"Nothing burger"?
The #1 point is that the Biden-Harris Admin "pressured" Facebook to censor Americans.
You have tried to present yourself as Mr. Free Speech and Mr. Absolute Truth
... and yet now you are laughing off a clear violation of your stated principles?
As to the lesser point, in the letter
Zuckerberg said he regrets not pushing back harder on that government pressure...
Yeah right there's no violation of free speech here. Free speech still happened.
What about that part is red, ah nevermind...
All of a sudden Mr. Free Speech is perfectly fine with the American government trying to censor Americans!
Oh what a tangled web you've wove...
I don't know what he meant by that, he didn't elaborate. Maybe he felt pushed around even though in the end he didn't give in. I can't say. What's your point?
(So you agree nobody's free speech rights were violated?)
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:05 pm
by Strangelove
^ PSST: You're making an ass of yourself...
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:08 pm
Anyways, I don't really care what the social convention is or to argue over it
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:08 pm
my point was that you can identify the nutters as the ones who call him President Trump
... and you were wrong.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:06 pm
by 5thhorseman
As an aside, currently Facebook and other social media companies are not considered common carriers, so there are no free speech rights on those platforms. Only Facebook's content moderation practices are protected as free speech (yes, corporations have free speech rights).
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:12 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:06 pm
As an aside, currently Facebook and other social media companies are not considered common carriers, so there are no free speech rights on those platforms. Only Facebook's content moderation practices are protected as free speech (yes, corporations have free speech rights).
UMMMM we were talking about the American government trying to censor Americans.
Squirm Horsey squirm!!
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2024 8:07 pm
by Topper
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 6:06 pm
As an aside, currently Facebook and other social media companies are not considered common carriers, so there are no free speech rights on those platforms. Only Facebook's content moderation practices are protected as free speech (yes, corporations have free speech rights).
The issue isn't Facebook suppressing speech, it is the government asking them to restrict free speech.
It is the government's action that is the issue.
Will lead Zuckerberg to endorse Trump or maybe just not endorse Harris?
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:36 am
by 5thhorseman
Ya okay I get your point guys, the government shouldn't have attempted to influence FB to restrict
free speech on its platform. Agreed.
Now how about that Kamala!

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:54 pm
by Strangelove
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:36 am
Now how about that Kamala!
Catwoman was in on it.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:41 pm
by rats19
Students will pay their own debt…..
Fuckeads fucked up fucking the taxpayers…
Fuckers
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:49 pm
by 5thhorseman
Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:54 pm
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:36 am
Now how about that Kamala!
Catwoman was in on it.
Or she wasn't, and was gifted the candidacy.
Apparently she needs a male support animal as well
Can't win.
Meanwhile Trump's handlers are trying to keep the mics off and cemetery staff at bay.
Great reality TV!
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:12 pm
by Topper
rats19 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:41 pm
Students will pay their own debt…..
Fuckeads fucked up fucking the taxpayers…
Fuckers
How many times had Biden tried this and been defeated by the Courts?
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:22 pm
by Strangelove
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:49 pm
by Topper
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:49 pm
Strangelove wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:54 pm
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 6:36 am
Now how about that Kamala!
Catwoman was in on it.
Or she wasn't, and was gifted the candidacy.
I like the story that after Pelosi and the Obamas forced Joe out they were hoping for a mini primary so Kamala would get the boot as well, but Joe, in a final act of defiance, passed the torch to the VP.
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:49 pm
Apparently she needs a male support animal as well

But a chipmunk for a support animal? That's weird.
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 7:46 am
by 5thhorseman
Still no motive found for the shooter other than wanting to assassinate a high-level figure. Either Trump or Biden would have sufficed.
https://apnews.com/article/fbi-trump-as ... 321b20dfdd
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2024 6:43 pm
by Megaterio Llamas
Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:46 am
by Topper
I watch the Harris/Walz interview with CNN. Ouch.
The visuals were horrible. Harris's posture was weak, sitting low in her chair, often looking down as if she was reading stock answers from a sheet of paper in her lap. She did not look powerful. From the camera angle, Walz appeared to tower over her and did so while continuously nodding his head. He looked like a bobblehead.
On substance it was as vacuous as expected. Harris kept referring to her stated policies. Hmmmmmmm, she hasn't said much for policy other than grand statements (tax credits for individuals, tax increases for corporations). Spoke of Day One actions but was never really pressed on the past 3.5 years (used covid recovery for not implementing policies in the past 3.5 years). Often seemed to miss the influence of the current administrations policies and tried to blame them on her opponent.
Walz simply changed subjects immediately when asked an uncomfortable question. Justified his credentials by saying his former students came out at the convention to support him. Asked about his misstatements on combat and IVF, it was the same as the party lines, I speak from the heart and off the cuff to get the bigger message across. Isn't that what they accuse their opponent of? Weak.
CNN host never pressed the issues with follow up or interrupted rambling answers to refocus on the question. Contast with the same interviewer questioning JD Vance.
The whole thing was overly stage managed and probably did nothing to help her escape the scripted Party controlled nature of her campaign.
Trump also did an event, a highly scripted live townhall interview from Tulsi. It was a way for Trump to highlight his policies. Not as puffball as Harris/Walz discussing white man taco recipes. Best question was Tulsi discussing her own experience with IVF (failed- excusing her childless cat lady status) and that gave Trump an opportunity to state his policy on IVF and counter the accusation of wanting to cancel it. Trump wants Federal funding and/or mandating private health insurance to cover their clients IVF treatments.