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[2Fingers]

The thing with USA politics is that it is really messed up, regardless of who is the president there is always something going on. Whether the president is a Dem or a Rep if the congress and senate is not the same colour all hell breaks lose, nothing gets done and the country goes deeper and deeper into debt.

I thought it was bad for Trump to get elected but wanted to see what he could do and after 3.5 years other than his dealings with China he hasn't done more than any other president would have done. Do not point to the stocks or jobs because IMO the president gets too much credit or flak for this. What Trump has done more than anyone in the past is divide the country.

^ That right there is the unbiased opinion of a guy who has insisted over and over that Lord Trump was banging his daughter.

"Do not point to the stocks or jobs" hee hee hee

Wait... the country wasn't divided before Trump?

WPE

Racist

Bigot

Sexist

Liar

Poor business man, I mean how many times will he declare bankruptcy?

Crook

Divides the country like no other president

Likes incest, why else would he comment about how “hot” his daughter is at the age of 16?

Has ADHD or maybe the start of dementia, why else would he be mumbling and rambling when he talks, or did they really have air fields in the war of independence?

Who needs evidence when you're a goosestepping goober amirite?

See Reef, it's posts like those that strip away any and all credibility you may have otherwise had...

several months later and everything I said is still true.

This November will be interesting.

[mr perfect]

So is the Pig with the Wig still telling folks to drink bleach down south? They sure got a handle on the virus down there.

His MyPillowGuy buddy is flogging a cure for Covid-19 based on Oleander which is highly toxic to dogs.

[Per]

Absentee ballots are also by mail, so 17.7% + 5.9% = 23.6%. But I think you knew that.

I'll look at the rest of your stuff later. It's sunny outside, dontcha know!?

Absentee ballots are done through a completely different process.

There are reasons they are separated in your graph from mail-in voting.

Splitting hares....

[5thhorseman]

Absentee ballots are also by mail, so 17.7% + 5.9% = 23.6%. But I think you knew that.

I'll look at the rest of your stuff later. It's sunny outside, dontcha know!?

Absentee ballots are done through a completely different process.

There are reasons they are separated in your graph from mail-in voting.

In the context of voter fraud, there is no difference. Both mail-in and absentee ballots go through the same verification process before being counted.

[5thhorseman]

Also, there is no evidence of widespread fraud. In fact, the opposite. If you have a link to the contrary, please share.

You don't know how to google?

Okay, look for the word "fraud" (16 times) in this article:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mail-i ... nationwide

Sorry, but doing a search count in a Fox news article to estimate the level of fraud occurring is lazy. Of course there is fraud, but what percentage of total votes cast are fraudulent, and what is the acceptable level (fyi, it's not zero)? There are more rigorously done studies out there. Try again.

But I think "My orange hero"'s concern is that the USPS is clearly FUBAR.

The USPS has been that way for decades.

You need to spell out what you mean by that. The USPS hasn't needed government funding for decades, unlike banks, airlines, and the auto industry. Sounds like a well-run government service tbh.

You couldn't be more wrong about this and frankly I'm shocked at your naivety.

I mean it's common knowledge the USPS has been failing for decades!

And it's getting worse...

https://money.yahoo.com/u-postal-chief- ... 59097.html

"The Postal Service has lost $80 billion since 2007."

Are you considering the requirement that the government has imposed on the USPS to prefund 75 years of retiree health benefits over the span of 10 years at a cost of more than $100 billion? This is an onerous requirement that is not imposed on the public sector, and has nothing to do with USPS operations.

[Strangelove]

Also, there is no evidence of widespread fraud. In fact, the opposite. If you have a link to the contrary, please share.

You don't know how to google?

Okay, look for the word "fraud" (16 times) in this article:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mail-i ... nationwide

Sorry, but doing a search count in a Fox news article to estimate the level of fraud occurring is lazy. Of course there is fraud, but what percentage of total votes cast are fraudulent, and what is the acceptable level (fyi, it's not zero)? There are more rigorously done studies out there. Try again.

Lmao, enough of this bullshit, I'm not your 'boy' !

You asked me for a link to "evidence of widespread fraud" and I gave it to you.

(expert commentary in that link + the many links within the link)

In response you say "Of course there is fraud, but what percentage of total votes?"

Enough, you just said "There are more rigorously done studies out there".

If you have this information why do you want me to find it for you?

I tire of your silly games...

But I think "My orange hero"'s concern is that the USPS is clearly FUBAR.

The USPS has been that way for decades.

You need to spell out what you mean by that. The USPS hasn't needed government funding for decades, unlike banks, airlines, and the auto industry. Sounds like a well-run government service tbh.

You couldn't be more wrong about this and frankly I'm shocked at your naivety.

I mean it's common knowledge the USPS has been failing for decades!

And it's getting worse...

https://money.yahoo.com/u-postal-chief- ... 59097.html

"The Postal Service has lost $80 billion since 2007."

Are you considering the requirement that the government has imposed on the USPS to prefund 75 years of retiree health benefits over the span of 10 years at a cost of more than $100 billion? This is an onerous requirement that is not imposed on the public sector, and has nothing to do with USPS operations.

If you did a little of your own research for a change you'd learn the USPS did not pay that $100 billion.

(who is the "lazy" one now?)

(and how does that tidbit affect your numbers)

They broke the law in actually only paying around $30 billion of that and are now looking-for/getting help from the feds:

https://www.rstreet.org/2020/02/04/stat ... rness-act/

(fact is, the USPS has paid less toward retiree health benefits than the public sector over that time frame)

So yes, the USPS has lost a fortune over the past two decades, despite making huge cutbacks in service.

(cut back to 5 days per week from 6, cut back from 1-day 1st class delivery to 2-days, closed 252 of its 461 processing centers, etc)

It is common knowledge that the USPS is the most poorly run postal service in the world, deys bes fucked y'all...

[Strangelove]

Absentee ballots are also by mail, so 17.7% + 5.9% = 23.6%. But I think you knew that.

I'll look at the rest of your stuff later. It's sunny outside, dontcha know!?

Absentee ballots are done through a completely different process.

There are reasons they are separated in your graph from mail-in voting.

In the context of voter fraud, there is no difference. Both mail-in and absentee ballots go through the same verification process before being counted.

Fetch me a link on that boy!

[Strangelove]

several months later and everything I said is still true.

This November will be interesting.

So the President of the United States of America is still banging his daughter?

Thank you once again Fingers for your intelligent and unbiased observations.

And that link was you a full year ago. "Several months?"

[2Fingers]

Well said by a great president.

The former POTUS did not hold back in his criticism of how Trump and his administration have handled their time running the country, from their attacks on the press to their handling of the coronavirus pandemic and disregard for science. "I never expected my successor would embrace my vision," Obama prefaced. “[But] I did hope for the sake of our country that Donald Trump would show some interest in taking the job seriously…[that] he might come to feel the weight of the office and discover some reverence for the democracy that had been placed in his care. But he never did.

”

[2Fingers]

several months later and everything I said is still true.

This November will be interesting.

So the President of the United States of America is still banging his daughter?

Thank you once again Fingers for your intelligent and unbiased observations.

And that link was you a full year ago. "Several months?"

I never said he was banging his daughter, you did.

you are welcome, my comments were meant to help you.

months or years, does not matter when you are speaking the truth.

[Strangelove]

I never said he was banging his daughter, you did.

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........

Likes incest, why else would he comment about how “hot” his daughter is at the age of 16?

[Per]

I never said he was banging his daughter, you did.

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........

Likes incest, why else would he comment about how “hot” his daughter is at the age of 16?

Yeah... I like hockey. I don’t play hockey.

[Per]

I never said he was banging his daughter, you did.

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM.........

Likes incest, why else would he comment about how “hot” his daughter is at the age of 16?

For the record: I do not think Donald Trump is a pedophile.

But the comments he makes about his daughters (and other girls) are disturbing...

[Per]

Former Ohio governor, John Kasich, life long republican:



One of many republicans who now distance themselves from Donald Trump.

[Per]

OK, let's give this a few minutes again, shall we...

“Look at the facts… Paid off porn star… Russia lies… Racism… Children in cages… Conspiracy theories.”

Stormy Daniels eventually admitted she never actually had an affair with "My orange hero"

Source on that?

So why did he pay her USD 130,000 from campaign funds?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stormy_Da ... ite_note-1

"Daniels later signed a statement witnessed by both her lawyer and publicist denying that she had an affair with Trump."

(check the link in that article for more info if you like, also google is your friend)

And it wasn't Trump who paid the $130K, it was Cohen.

(Remember? Cohen was the one convicted of wrongdoing, not "My orange hero")

Crazy Mika... and apparently you... are still accusing Donny of things he has long been cleared!

Apparently Cohen paid her off because he couldn't get ahold of Don in the midst of the hectic campaign.

(Stormy came out of the woodwork a few weeks before the election, threatening to go public with her lies)

OK, couple of things...

1) Mika (is that her name?) stated that Trump paid off a porn star.
Not that he had an affair with said porn star.

Cohen paid Stormy 130,000 in hush money on Donnie's behalf.
Donnie later reimbursed Cohen, thus confirming that it was on his behalf.

Thus the statement can be confirmed to be true.

2) Checking your source, the written statement that she had not had a relationship with Trump was mentioned in an article published on Jan 31st 2018.

On March 25th, 2018, Stormy was on 60 minutes, confirming that she had met with Trump twice, but only had sex with him on the first occassion, after first spanking him with a copy of Forbes magazine. She also mentioned that her former business advisor/lawyer had forced her to sign several false statements about her relations with Trump. Possibly referring to those mentioned in the article on Jan 31st?
(this is on the same wikipedia page you linked to)

So yeah, she obviously had sex with him. Why else would he have paid her the hush money?
And why would anyone claim to have had sex with Trump if it weren't true? It's not something you'd be proud of.
If it were political she would not have taken the hsh money to begin with.

3) (Remember? Cohen was the one convicted of wrongdoing, not "My orange hero")

Ah, but that is just because the consitution protects a sitting president from prosecution.

When campaign finance violations are punished, they typically result in fines by the Federal Election Commission that are pegged to the size of the unlawful contribution or expenditure. The Justice Department can also prosecute willful violations of election laws, or willful false statements on the federal personal financial disclosure forms, which are felonies and can result in up to five years in prison.

There is little chance that the department would file charges against Mr. Trump, regardless of what the evidence shows, because its Office of Legal Counsel has opined that the Constitution makes sitting presidents immune from prosecution.

But Mr. Cohen, after the raid last month, is under intense legal pressure.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/03/us/p ... ssues.html

Once Donnie is out of office, the prosecutor can choose to charge him for the same offences that Cohen was committed of doing on his behalf, if the statute of limitations has not expired by that time, that is.

From the verdict of Cohen it seems pretty clear that the alleged crimes against campaign finance laws were committed. Now, whether or not Trump was aware of the specifics of what the money went for, he knew he owed Cohen money, but failed to report this loan to the Federal Election Committe. If the loan was not campaign related (which the verdict against Cohen seems to conclude it was), he would have had to report it to the Office of Government Ethics instead:

As a government employee, Mr. Trump is also required to report any liabilities in excess of $10,000 on a financial disclosure form filed with the Office of Government Ethics. His 2017 form — which he signed in June, certifying it was “true, complete and correct” — does not list any outstanding loan from Mr. Cohen, campaign-related or otherwise.

We'll see. From my understanding there are a lot of criminal investigations against Donnie in the pipeline, just waiting for him to get out of office.

… no Russia lies,

Uhm... some seven, iirc, people with ties to the Trump campaign have been convicted in a court of law for lying about Russia.
But you know better?

AGAIN

... President Trump had nothing to do with that!

Trump had NOTHING to do with the Trump election campaign????!!!!!

You're accusing him of being a... uhm... sock puppet...? Marionette...? Manchurian candidate...?



Seriously, I didn't think you had it in you.

AGAIN... Mika was accusing "My orange hero" of "Russia lies".

As you know, this has been thoroughly investigated and Lord Trump came out smelling like a rose...

Sure... I know there are some yellow roses that really smell like shit.

And again, there was ample evidence that the Russians interfered with the election to benefit Trump.
What they had problems proving was that the Russian actions were coordinated with the Trump campaign.

Yet they found enough evidence of wrong doing to put some of his cronies behind bars, albeit he has of course pardoned several of them already...

Once again, they can not prosecute a sitting president, so any charges in a court of law will have to wait till he is out of office.
There was an attempt to go the impeachment route, but the senate voted strictly according to party line, so there was never any real attempt to actually evaluate the matter at hand. Bet the founding fathers are spinning in their graves.

Just as we all know Bill Clinton did have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky, we also all know that Trump did collude with Russia.

The impeachment system does not work. The founding fathers had never intended for a two party system, but thought each senator would be elected on personal merits. The way it is now, the senate can not function as the impartial court the founding fathers had intended.

(btw just how the fuck does one twist "the birtherism (sic) shit" into something racist?)

If you cannot see how racist that is, to ridiculously claim that a non white candidate cannot be a true American, then I don't really see the point in discussing this. But I assume that you are, per usual, just trolling, so here goes...

Has any white presidential candidate ever had his birth certificate questioned?

His mother was from effing Kansas.
Got knocked up by an exchange student at college.
Why the hell would she go to Kenya to give birth?
Never mind that the father already had a wife in Kenya... so he surely wouldn't want to bring her there...

It is so ridiculously stupid no sane person would ever give it the time of the day.
But it works just fine as a racist dog whistle for nefarious political motives.

And of course Trump would go there.