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AP FACT CHECK: Michelle Obama and the kids in ‘cages’
WASHINGTON (AP) — Michelle Obama assailed President Donald Trump on Monday for ripping migrant children from their parents and throwing them into cages, picking up on a frequent and distorted point made widely by Democrats.
She’s right that Trump’s now-suspended policy at the U.S.-Mexico border separated thousands of children from their families in ways that had not been done before. But what she did not say is that the very same “cages” were built and used in her husband’s administration, for the same purpose of holding migrant kids temporarily.
A look at her remark in the keynote address at the opening night of the remote Democratic National Convention:
MICHELLE OBAMA, on Americans: “They watch in horror as children are torn from their families and thrown into cages.”
THE FACTS: The reference to cages is misleading and a matter that Democrats have persistently distorted.
Trump used facilities that were built during the Obama-Biden administration to house children at the border. They are chain-link enclosures inside border facilities where migrants were temporarily housed, separated by sex and age.
At the height of the controversy over Trump’s zero-tolerance policy at the border, photos that circulated online of children in the enclosures generated great anger. But those photos — by The Associated Press — were taken in 2014 and depicted some of the thousands of unaccompanied children held by President Barack Obama.
When that fact came to light, some Democrats and activists who had tweeted the photos deleted their tweets. But prominent Democrats have continued to cite cages for children as a distinctive cruelty of Trump.
The thing with USA politics is that it is really messed up, regardless of who is the president there is always something going on. Whether the president is a Dem or a Rep if the congress and senate is not the same colour all hell breaks lose, nothing gets done and the country goes deeper and deeper into debt.
I thought it was bad for Trump to get elected but wanted to see what he could do and after 3.5 years other than his dealings with China he hasn't done more than any other president would have done. Do not point to the stocks or jobs because IMO the president gets too much credit or flak for this. What Trump has done more than anyone in the past is divide the country.
2Fingers wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:09 pm
The thing with USA politics is that it is really messed up, regardless of who is the president there is always something going on. Whether the president is a Dem or a Rep if the congress and senate is not the same colour all hell breaks lose, nothing gets done and the country goes deeper and deeper into debt.
I thought it was bad for Trump to get elected but wanted to see what he could do and after 3.5 years other than his dealings with China he hasn't done more than any other president would have done. Do not point to the stocks or jobs because IMO the president gets too much credit or flak for this. What Trump has done more than anyone in the past is divide the country.
^ That right there is the unbiased opinion of a guy who has insisted over and over that Lord Trump was banging his daughter.
Poor business man, I mean how many times will he declare bankruptcy?
Crook
Divides the country like no other president
Likes incest, why else would he comment about how “hot” his daughter is at the age of 16?
Has ADHD or maybe the start of dementia, why else would he be mumbling and rambling when he talks, or did they really have air fields in the war of independence?
Who needs evidence when you're a goosestepping goober amirite?
See Reef, it's posts like those that strip away any and all credibility you may have otherwise had...
Also, there is no evidence of widespread fraud. In fact, the opposite. If you have a link to the contrary, please share.
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:35 pm
But I think "My orange hero"'s concern is that the USPS is clearly FUBAR.
The USPS has been that way for decades.
You need to spell out what you mean by that. The USPS hasn't needed government funding for decades, unlike banks, airlines, and the auto industry. Sounds like a well-run government service tbh.
I just don’t trust that system besides the fact that USPS endorses Biden and there is a way to tell Democrat or republican within the bar coding on the envelope
Not per se how they voted but which party they are a member of... which would be indicative of how they voted.
It just reeks of fraud to me
God I hope it doesn’t but I’m not holding my breath.
Bins and bins of votes will show up for weeks after the election you won’t know who won till December
It’s all just fucked up down there
I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together….
rats19 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:29 pm
I just don’t trust that system besides the fact that USPS endorses Biden and there is a way to tell Democrat or republican within the bar coding on the envelope
Not per se how they voted but which party they are a member of... which would be indicative of how they voted.
It just reeks of fraud to me
God I hope it doesn’t but I’m not holding my breath.
Bins and bins of votes will show up for weeks after the election you won’t know who won till December
It’s all just fucked up down there
Holy fuck Ratski, don't you know that the US Postmaster General is a major Republican donor? So maybe you should favour mail-in voting then
As for your bar code theory, I just don't know what to say. That's just ... wow. Do you really think that?
Yeah, the rest is relevant. They need to ensure timely delivery of the mail-in votes, which is why they shouldn't be removing sorting machines, cutting OT, etc.
Nope, not anywhere near 25% by mail, from your own link:
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:22 pm
Also, there is no evidence of widespread fraud. In fact, the opposite. If you have a link to the contrary, please share.
You don't know how to google?
Okay, look for the word "fraud" (16 times) in this article:
Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:35 pm
But I think "My orange hero"'s concern is that the USPS is clearly FUBAR.
The USPS has been that way for decades.
You need to spell out what you mean by that. The USPS hasn't needed government funding for decades, unlike banks, airlines, and the auto industry. Sounds like a well-run government service tbh.
You couldn't be more wrong about this and frankly I'm shocked at your naivety.
I mean it's common knowledge the USPS has been failing for decades!
5thhorseman wrote: ↑Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:40 pm
Holy fuck Ratski, don't you know that the US Postmaster General is a major Republican donor? So maybe you should favour mail-in voting then
Here's something your leftist brainwashers won't tell you:
