2024 Offseason - moving forward

[Hockey Widow]

I just hope whatever the Canucks do they do before the draft. I don't want to feel like I have to watch the draft just waiting for Canucks trades......

[donlever]

Well what type of trade protection does the man have?

His NMC alters to a MNTC for 2 years effective 24/25 with a 15 team list season 1 and a 12 team list in the final year of his deal.

The 2 remaining years are the last of a 7 year 56 million dollar deal.

[BoS]

One mans red flag is another mans savior.

What could Gonch and Foote do with Jacob considering what they've accomplished with Meyers?

Fair enough.

Except Myers doesn’t come with a history of suspensions from reckless and dirty plays. Assholes are always needed, but if Drury does want to expel his Captain from the core, it’s likely because Trouba’s team mates have grown tired of his side show.

With what is widely considered a tight knit room, I’m not so sure Trouba would mesh well among this leadership core.

His $8mill salary plus the assets given up for him could be better spent up front, where the biggest holes still remain.

[rikster]

One mans red flag is another mans savior.

What could Gonch and Foote do with Jacob considering what they've accomplished with Meyers?

Do they cause Willander to leave college at the end of the upcomming season, especially considering that with Hronek re upped long term there is no need to fast track him up the defence pairings?

Did Allvin have Willander in mind on a pairing with Hughes when he said that Hronek is able to drive a pairing on his own and doesn't have to be attached to Hughes?

Assuming that Willander continues the development path he's on, has there been a time in Vancouver where they had the skill level of Hughes, Hronek and Willander on the same team and all with their prime years in front of them?

Is EP2 one of the handful of prospects Rutherford said were knocking on the door to play NHL games? Given his junior resume and what he was able to show in the 9 games played in Abbotsford, its safe to say he is...

In a way he reminds me of what Vancouver was hoping for when they drafted Bryan Allen 4th overall back in the day...

Call me goofy, but after watching Raty all season in Abbotsford I can see him spending time on the Pettersson line this upcomming season...

For me, the most improved player on the farm last year was Sassons who is another player I think will play NHL games in the upcomming season, especially given how the team wants to play a faster game ...

I thought that they would have Lekkermaki play a full season in the AHL next season, but from the Rutherford interview it appears they are planning on him seeing NHL games next year...

And is Woo not wanted in Vancouver or is he hoping to earn a one way deal somewhere next season?

With the organization having this many NHL or near NHL ready prospects, how will it impact what they do in the free agency market, especially as it relates to term?

Do they spend the wad on a Guentzel and then look to fill out the roster with farm team players and if they do sign free agents it's only for 1 or 2 years as they did with Cole last season?..

Given the growing list of high end, high cost salaries the team is accumilating I don't get the constant talk about filling all roster spots via free agency and think that they need to and are comfortable filling from within...

Take care...

[theman]

Just curious, has a team ever traded away all their picks from a single draft? Just wondering if the Canucks might make history with their effort to move on from Mikheyev.

[Cousin Strawberry]

One mans red flag is another mans savior.

What could Gonch and Foote do with Jacob considering what they've accomplished with Meyers?

Do they cause Willander to leave college at the end of the upcomming season, especially considering that with Hronek re upped long term there is no need to fast track him up the defence pairings?

Did Allvin have Willander in mind on a pairing with Hughes when he said that Hronek is able to drive a pairing on his own and doesn't have to be attached to Hughes?

Assuming that Willander continues the development path he's on, has there been a time in Vancouver where they had the skill level of Hughes, Hronek and Willander on the same team and all with their prime years in front of them?

Is EP2 one of the handful of prospects Rutherford said were knocking on the door to play NHL games? Given his junior resume and what he was able to show in the 9 games played in Abbotsford, its safe to say he is...

In a way he reminds me of what Vancouver was hoping for when they drafted Bryan Allen 4th overall back in the day...

Call me goofy, but after watching Raty all season in Abbotsford I can see him spending time on the Pettersson line this upcomming season...

For me, the most improved player on the farm last year was Sassons who is another player I think will play NHL games in the upcomming season, especially given how the team wants to play a faster game ...

I thought that they would have Lekkermaki play a full season in the AHL next season, but from the Rutherford interview it appears they are planning on him seeing NHL games next year...

And is Woo not wanted in Vancouver or is he hoping to earn a one way deal somewhere next season?

With the organization having this many NHL or near NHL ready prospects, how will it impact what they do in the free agency market, especially as it relates to term?

Do they spend the wad on a Guentzel and then look to fill out the roster with farm team players and if they do sign free agents it's only for 1 or 2 years as they did with Cole last season?..

Given the growing list of high end, high cost salaries the team is accumilating I don't get the constant talk about filling all roster spots via free agency and think that they need to and are comfortable filling from within...

Take care...

Lots of good points in this post.

I also am very interested in Wilander's development but I'd say he's minimum 1 more but more likely 2-3 years out from starting in the top 4 for the Canucks. Rushing kids up, especially defensemen, is never wise and I get the feeling the Canucks are buying into this path forward, thank fuck.

[donlever]

Just curious, has a team ever traded away all their picks from a single draft? Just wondering if the Canucks might make history with their effort to move on from Mikheyev.

Not what you're asking theman but living in the neighborhood....

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8f1CnbAEIw ... l3dTkwcw==

[Megaterio Llamas]

Just curious, has a team ever traded away all their picks from a single draft? Just wondering if the Canucks might make history with their effort to move on from Mikheyev.

Not what you're asking theman but living in the neighborhood....

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8f1CnbAEIw ... l3dTkwcw==

Geez, how did I not hear about this. That is crazy.

Dudley is kind of an idiot I guess...

[BoS]

Just curious, has a team ever traded away all their picks from a single draft? Just wondering if the Canucks might make history with their effort to move on from Mikheyev.

Not what you're asking theman but living in the neighborhood....

https://www.instagram.com/p/C8f1CnbAEIw ... l3dTkwcw==

Geez, how did I not hear about this. That is crazy.

Dudley is kind of an idiot I guess...

Worked for Pat Quinn

[Diehard1]

One mans red flag is another mans savior.

What could Gonch and Foote do with Jacob considering what they've accomplished with Meyers?

Do they cause Willander to leave college at the end of the upcomming season, especially considering that with Hronek re upped long term there is no need to fast track him up the defence pairings?

Did Allvin have Willander in mind on a pairing with Hughes when he said that Hronek is able to drive a pairing on his own and doesn't have to be attached to Hughes?

Assuming that Willander continues the development path he's on, has there been a time in Vancouver where they had the skill level of Hughes, Hronek and Willander on the same team and all with their prime years in front of them?

Is EP2 one of the handful of prospects Rutherford said were knocking on the door to play NHL games? Given his junior resume and what he was able to show in the 9 games played in Abbotsford, its safe to say he is...

In a way he reminds me of what Vancouver was hoping for when they drafted Bryan Allen 4th overall back in the day...

Call me goofy, but after watching Raty all season in Abbotsford I can see him spending time on the Pettersson line this upcomming season...

For me, the most improved player on the farm last year was Sassons who is another player I think will play NHL games in the upcomming season, especially given how the team wants to play a faster game ...

I thought that they would have Lekkermaki play a full season in the AHL next season, but from the Rutherford interview it appears they are planning on him seeing NHL games next year...

And is Woo not wanted in Vancouver or is he hoping to earn a one way deal somewhere next season?

With the organization having this many NHL or near NHL ready prospects, how will it impact what they do in the free agency market, especially as it relates to term?

Do they spend the wad on a Guentzel and then look to fill out the roster with farm team players and if they do sign free agents it's only for 1 or 2 years as they did with Cole last season?..

Given the growing list of high end, high cost salaries the team is accumilating I don't get the constant talk about filling all roster spots via free agency and think that they need to and are comfortable filling from within...

Take care...

Hey Rikster, long time! Good post as always. My guess is Willander will be signed after his college season. If he’s developed to NHL level he will be brought in right away, if not he’ll be in Abby. He’ll likely be a full timer in 1-2 years.

Lekki is almost ready skills wise, he just needs to get bigger, stronger, and likely better defensively. He may even do that this summer but my guess is he’ll be a late season addition at the earliest but more likely ready for the following year. Both guys on ELCs will likely be needed then.

Friedman said this morning that plan B is Toffoli. I’m actually intrigued there, he’s been great with Petey in the past and would be $3-$4 million less than Guentzel at roughly half the term. Bringing him in would also allow needed D upgrades - I’d love to see another top RHD brought in if possible - and maybe even a solid Joshua replacement. That might even be a better way to spend the money.

I’d be fine with either, let’s see how it goes in a week or so.

[Picker of Cherries]

I’d find it pretty funny if they ended up signing Tanev and Toffoli, the players I wanted them to, but they failed to get last TDL.
I’d like these two better than Guentzal at 9+ long term.
Short term deals are way more palatable for players in their 30s.

[BoS]

Signing Tanev would bring a boost to the PK, and allow Hronek to lead the second pairing. Keeping Hronek and Quinn together makes sense in so many ways, but limits offensive production from the back end to just one pairing. Unless Allvin brings in another offensive D-man, signing Tanev is a no brainer.

Always been a fan of Toffi, but his foot speed isn’t getting any better and is deeper into the back 9 of his career.

I suspect managements MO is clearing cap space to re-sign Lindholm. If Petey continues to struggle to start the season, the smart move would be to shift him to the wing and keep Miller/Lindholm as the 1-2. The team needs wingers right? Why not alleviate undue pressure off Petey and give him two terrific two-way options to play with?

Guentzel is a terrific player, but IMO Lindholm is both cheaper and more valuable to this team.

You build your team down the middle. Centres, D and goaltending.

[donlever]

Except Myers doesn’t come with a history of suspensions from reckless and dirty plays. Assholes are always needed, but if Drury does want to expel his Captain from the core, it’s likely because Trouba’s team mates have grown tired of his side show.

Change likely to possibly and I would be more willing to accept the premise of your point.

With what is widely considered a tight knit room, I’m not so sure Trouba would mesh well among this leadership core.

...as stated previously we have a number of Americans in the room...with the cliqueyness (sic) of the new NHL my guess is that question is easily answered.

His $8mill salary plus the assets given up for him could be better spent up front, where the biggest holes still remain.

I never said to take on 8 mill.

When I started the conversation it was with the caveat that the Rangers retain (as was reported and what sparked the musings) 3 million and the balance of his salary was offset by not signing Zads and trading Mikeyhev in the deal not the assets you are concerned about.

In the end I don't think this is a "real deal option" thst could happen nor am I particularly pushing for it.

Just sparking up some off season chit chat with respect to a team that clearly needs a fear inducing, belligerent prick or two to take another step forward.

[donlever]

Guentzel is a terrific player, but IMO Lindholm is both cheaper and more valuable to this team.

You build your team down the middle. Centres, D and goaltending.

Agreed.

Would depend on the Tanev cost however.

As stated many times I'd prefer they alter the blend of the group and move EP for a series of value adds in the Lindholm scenario.

[Strangelove]

Friedman said this morning that plan B is Toffoli.

Actually, Friedperson said:

"I wondered about Toffoli in Vancouver this week, they know him and that's another name that popped into my head."

Just Elliotte musing on what Canucks could do "if they bust on Guentzel."

So yeah, we have no idea whether or not Canucks braintrust is interested in Toffoli

... but there are reasons he would come in at a lesser cap hit/term than Guentzel.