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Johnny Gaudreau’s (and his brother’s) blood alcohol level found to be higher than the driver’s who hit them.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/joh ... hol-levels

Mëds wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:45 pm Well fuck around…..

Johnny Gaudreau’s (and his brother’s) blood alcohol level found to be higher than the driver’s who hit them.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/joh ... hol-levels

Oof...

That'll change the whole Johnny Gaudreau tragedy narrative in an unwelcome direction.

Is it illegal to ride a bike while drunk? I didn't think so, but haven't really looked at that.

Other than perhaps public intoxication - not sure they were breaking any laws? Certainly does put fault into question, but still need to convict that driver, he killed people.

Drunk Lives Matter

Motherfuckers Against Drunk Victims?

Oh yes. Looks really shitty after all the tributes to this point.

Now who is to say that they weren’t where they should not have been? Not to remove culpability from the driver, he was drunk and emotionally distraught.

But, you tar and feather a guy while speaking about the victim and lamenting the loss of someone of such exceptional character, gushing about how amazing they were as a person, making them sound like the were a saint above reproach.

Truth is that he got hammered with his brother and went for a bike ride and suddenly his young children are orphans.

Damned media and our hero worshipping culture.

JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:57 pm Is it illegal to ride a bike while drunk? I didn't think so, but haven't really looked at that.

Other than perhaps public intoxication - not sure they were breaking any laws? Certainly does put fault into question, but still need to convict that driver, he killed people.

Drunk Lives Matter

Yeah. I don’t like that they are trying to get the indictment tossed.

However…..to your other point, from Bernstein Law Group…

Can I Drink And Ride My Bike?

Our advice to you is—NO. The short answer is that it’s a bad idea to ride a bicycle drunk. In fact, drunk cycling can be caught under the ambit of the Liquor License Act for public intoxication. Additionally, police officers have the ability to ticket a cyclist if they are biking in a careless or reckless manner or if they are breaking the laws of the road in some manner. Many bicycles today may also have electric or gas motors, and in these cases, an intoxicated cyclist will likely be violating the Highway Traffic Act and Criminal Code of Canada.

I realize that this happened in the US. But I believe our public intoxication laws are often similar.

Mëds wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:07 pm

JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:57 pm Is it illegal to ride a bike while drunk? I didn't think so, but haven't really looked at that.

Other than perhaps public intoxication - not sure they were breaking any laws? Certainly does put fault into question, but still need to convict that driver, he killed people.

Drunk Lives Matter

Yeah. I don’t like that they are trying to get the indictment tossed.

However…..to your other point, from Bernstein Law Group…

Can I Drink And Ride My Bike?

Our advice to you is—NO. The short answer is that it’s a bad idea to ride a bicycle drunk. In fact, drunk cycling can be caught under the ambit of the Liquor License Act for public intoxication. Additionally, police officers have the ability to ticket a cyclist if they are biking in a careless or reckless manner or if they are breaking the laws of the road in some manner. Many bicycles today may also have electric or gas motors, and in these cases, an intoxicated cyclist will likely be violating the Highway Traffic Act and Criminal Code of Canada.

I realize that this happened in the US. But I believe our public intoxication laws are often similar.

Hmm.. and quick google about NJ state law shows it is in fact illegal to operate a bike intoxicated. Sad.

They were drunker than me so I'm innocent?

Its like the endless stone throwing of Blob and Dude saying one is dumber than the other so one must be smart, Eh.

JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:13 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:07 pm

JelloPuddingPop wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 12:57 pm Is it illegal to ride a bike while drunk? I didn't think so, but haven't really looked at that.

Other than perhaps public intoxication - not sure they were breaking any laws? Certainly does put fault into question, but still need to convict that driver, he killed people.

Drunk Lives Matter

Yeah. I don’t like that they are trying to get the indictment tossed.

However…..to your other point, from Bernstein Law Group…

Can I Drink And Ride My Bike?

Our advice to you is—NO. The short answer is that it’s a bad idea to ride a bicycle drunk. In fact, drunk cycling can be caught under the ambit of the Liquor License Act for public intoxication. Additionally, police officers have the ability to ticket a cyclist if they are biking in a careless or reckless manner or if they are breaking the laws of the road in some manner. Many bicycles today may also have electric or gas motors, and in these cases, an intoxicated cyclist will likely be violating the Highway Traffic Act and Criminal Code of Canada.

I realize that this happened in the US. But I believe our public intoxication laws are often similar.

Hmm.. and quick google about NJ state law shows it is in fact illegal to operate a bike intoxicated. Sad.

Brutal.

Knowing the US justice system I can see this getting tossed, or at least no jail time.

And yeah to What Topper said…..

So, if a cyclist has consumed alcohol how many points would they be in Death Race 2000?

It doesn’t mean his case will be tossed. He was still intoxicated and involved in two fatalities. But what it does mean is that he can put on a defence that may mitigated both the criminal and civil penalties. He would of course have to show that their intoxication contributed to their behaviour that contributed to the crash. For him it is all about mitigation right now.

How were the brothers riding, side by side or staggered? What were they wearing at night? Did they ride in a reckless or dangerous manner? It is possible to find joint responsibility and still hold him accountable.

JT Miller had 0 points tonight for the NYR, hehe.

theman wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 7:43 pm JT Miller had 0 points tonight for the NYR, hehe.

We SOOOOO kept the right guy.

Topper wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 1:14 pm They were drunker than me so I'm innocent?

Its like the endless stone throwing of Blob and Dude saying one is dumber than the other so one must be smart, Eh.

Why bring Dude into this?

Id be lying if I say that never crossed my mind. Seeing the community come together for Johnny was very uplifting for me. Just because you didn’t mean to kill, doesn’t mean you shouldn’t be absolved. There are consequences to every action you make. This is the most unfortunate one.