US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24 *AND* Beyond

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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:40 pm
Mëds wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:30 pm .....but I think a total surrender by Iran has to happen.
So what does that look like? An occupation?
I'd say it means a long, hard war...
If they want to ensure the (supposed) nuclear threat is neutralized then they have to invade. There's no evidence the bunker busters worked.

Weapons of mass destruction all over again.

Or maybe taco.
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5thhorseman wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:54 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:40 pm
Mëds wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:30 pm .....but I think a total surrender by Iran has to happen.
So what does that look like? An occupation?
I'd say it means a long, hard war...
If they want to ensure the (supposed) nuclear threat is neutralized then they have to invade. There's no evidence the bunker busters worked.

Weapons of mass destruction all over again.

Or maybe taco.
It's gonna be standoff missile exchanges to the bitter end, I think. Trump may have taken 235 billion from the zionist lobby but I don't think that buys a draft, and they would need one from what I'm hearing to launch a land invasion.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:40 pm
Mëds wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:30 pm .....but I think a total surrender by Iran has to happen.
So what does that look like? An occupation?
I'd say it means a long, hard war...
When the US went into Iraq, they flattened them in 30 days. Iran has few allies, if any of consequence. China relies on them for energy, however if the US and Israel give China guarantees of continued supply after any war, China will sit tight and let things happen. Russia has already withdrawn from Iran. The Iranian capacity to retaliate has been severely reduced. Israel has taken out many key leaders in what is being called a brilliantly planned offensive.

This war would quickly be over and become a manhunt in the desert.....similar to chasing Bin Laden, but I think more efficient.
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Mëds wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:23 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:42 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:40 pm
Mëds wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 8:30 pm .....but I think a total surrender by Iran has to happen.
So what does that look like? An occupation?
I'd say it means a long, hard war...
When the US went into Iraq, they flattened them in 30 days. Iran has few allies, if any of consequence. China relies on them for energy, however if the US and Israel give China guarantees of continued supply after any war, China will sit tight and let things happen. Russia has already withdrawn from Iran. The Iranian capacity to retaliate has been severely reduced. Israel has taken out many key leaders in what is being called a brilliantly planned offensive.

This war would quickly be over and become a manhunt in the desert.....similar to chasing Bin Laden, but I think more efficient.
It's a completely different animal than Libya, Syria, Iraq etc. It's a massive, mountainous country three times larger than Ukraine and with triple the population, and it has been preparing for war with the US for years. China and Russia will help, how, I'm not sure. But Iran is crucial to both China's Belt and Road and Russia's North-South Corridor. If Iran were to fall, BRICS would be finished, and I'm sure that's the plan. I think the US will use proxies in the Iranian minority separatist communities, as well as a crazy Iranian terrorist organization it controls that is currently chilling in Albania, whose name escapes me. Rot the foundation from the inside, and then watch the house collapse under its weight.

I'm ruling out a land invasion, but I'll be happy to eat my hat if I'm wrong.
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I wonder how their hashish is. You never hear about Iranian hash
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@Mëds - China will laugh off any 'trust me, bro' guarantees from the US to supply oil. They are buying a lot of their oil from Iran currently, and if that were to cease, they would most assuredly turn to their ally Russia, not to their enemy.

Iran will close off the Straight of Hormuz and crash the world economy before they ever get close to surrendering btw.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:41 pm I wonder how their hashish is. You never hear about Iranian hash
It's killer Cuz, they're right there in the original homeland territory.

And they all smoke weed, even the elders.
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The ceasefire is back on, looks like Mëds was right. At least Iran and the US have signed up for it.

No response from Israel.

*okay Israel has announced that they're in as well.

Hopefully, this holds.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:45 pm
Cousin Strawberry wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:41 pm I wonder how their hashish is. You never hear about Iranian hash
It's killer Cuz, they're right there in the original homeland territory.

And they all smoke weed, even the elders.
I remember an old Cheech and Chong movie where they talked about the Lebanese blonde hash and that was what "set them Arabs off"

I figured it's must all be relative right? They all have hookah pipes with hoses to smoke hash on the floor (we can only assume it's so when they tip over from hooting too much hash it's a soft landing)
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 10:05 pm
Hopefully, this holds.
Nope.
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Interesting take on an Iranian power struggle brewing: LINK
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Mëds wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:16 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2025 1:20 am Heel Spurs is safe until impeachment in 2026. He's really done a number here. Stupid cunt has put a bullseye on this continent. He has pissed off more than Iran.
Who else has he pissed off?
Every country he started a trade war with, so… everyone.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 9:43 pm Iran will close off the Straight of Hormuz and crash the world economy before they ever get close to surrendering btw.
They probably will, if the attacks from Israel/USA continue, but I don’t think it’ll crash the global economy. Up to 20% of global oil exports move through that strait, but mostly to Asia. It surely will put a strain on the economy and raise oil prices, but that is basically good for countries like Canada, Norway, Venezuela and Russia. And at least northern Europe has become increasingly independent of oil.

I’ve personally weaned myself off it completely. I’ve traded my Outlander PHEV for a real EV that I’m picking up this afternoon. My home has communal district heating, so it’s a combination of industrial excess heat, biofuels and garbage incineration. The industries here are mostly lumber/pulp/paper, and I know from the pulp mill I worked at that we generated heat and electricity by burning bark, twigs, etc; ie the parts of the lumber that didn’t go into the pulp production. We actually even sold surplus electricity plus heat to a nearby sawmill. So, the industrial excess heat here is also mostly generated by biofuels. Swedish electricity is 99.9% fossil free. There is one powerplant in southern Sweden that runs on oil, but they only use it occasionally in the winter when electricity prices soar.
My eldest daughter has geothermal heating for the house and an EV, my youngest has district heating and a hybrid car.

I think, overall, the Nordic countries will not be affected by a 15% drop in global oil exports. Norway will benefit from it and the rest of us shrug it off. Could be tougher for southern Europe, who haven’t come as far in the switch to green energy, but they seem to go into crisis mode on a fairly regular base either way. Maybe this will provide the push they need to step up their game.
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