Canucks News N Notes 25-26

[rikster]

UW wasn't Lank signed during the period where Demko's hockey career was potentially in jeopardy due to the popleteus drama? It wasn't looking good and there were concerns over having Silovs as your #1 with KL expiring at seasons end.

It hasn't necessarily aged all that well given Thatcher's apparent recovery but then again that isn't a given either is it

I'll give them a pass on that one

Really my number one issue with this regime is fucking around with the Zadorov situation and losing that character from the mix. To a lesser extent losing Cole was another flub I'm not fond of but most of the other moves haven't been that bad in my eyes

The advantage the Canucks have over us and the rumor spreaders is that they know things like Demko's health and contract demands along with his market value around the league...

They know the market value for Silvos and where they slot him amongst the other highly prized goalie prospects in the system like a Ty Young....

Listening the afternoon show on 650 I think they might have nailed the Canucks direction ...

They have a top 5 blue line group...

They have elite goaltending with Demko and Lank as the back up...

Assuming last year was a one off for EP, they have an elite player at the centre, defence and goalie positions...

They recognize how difficult and expensive it is to aquire skilled players so they are going after big, fast less skilled forwards like a Kane to add to a group with includes the likes of O'Connor and DeBrusk and Sherwood and Joshua to build around the core 3...

Even the recent signing of Ravinskis fits that mould...big powerforward who skates well...

When you compare Florida to Edmonton, Florida's top players are Selke type players while Edmontons top players are Art Ross type players...Much harder to find Art Ross type players than Selke type players...

Almost like they are building a Pat Quinn type of team...big, fast and tough to play against...

Take care...

[Cornuck]

Kane: show discomfort at uncomfortable question (joke uncomfortably or attack question), get composed, answer like you went through press training. Not bad.

I listened to most of it, and gotta say I was impressed. Very poised, and of course 'that suit' If he can be that level-headed around his teammates, there might be hope.

[theman]

No his news deal would not start until 2026. Same as Demko. So their cap hits for 2025 stay the same.

Yeah, thank god. That would also be the final year of the huge OEL buy out cap hit. After next season OEL's buyout hit is manageable. Still wouldn't like to see Garland signed for 7 mil per though, hopefully it will be much closer to 6.5 mil per.

[rikster]

No his news deal would not start until 2026. Same as Demko. So their cap hits for 2025 stay the same.

Yeah, thank god. That would also be the final year of the huge OEL buy out cap hit. After next season OEL's buyout hit is manageable. Still wouldn't like to see Garland signed for 7 mil per though, hopefully it will be much closer to 6.5 mil per.

Will be interesting to see how long they wait to start negotiating Kane's next deal...

[Todd Bersnoozi]

I think the Lankinen signing is poor management on so many levels.

The Blankinen contract is a bit long, but I think at the time they wanted the insurance. They weren't sure about Demmer's health/durability and they had question marks if Silovs can play @ the NHL lvl. I think we should just trade Demmer and be done with it. Just go with the guy who doesn't have the injury issues and the young backstop who looks like he can step up in the big games/playoffs. Sign a cheap 3rd string goalie that we'd be willing to expose on waivers as insurance.

From Frank The Sausage Seravalli:

“Sounds like the Canucks have made significant progress in extension talks with winger Conor Garland."

I'd prefer to move out Gnarly8 and use that cap space to address our centre ice position. We have some wingers in the system (ie: Karly94, Bains, Lekkerimaki) and they're generally easier to find/acquire out there.

[Nuckertuzzi]

I think we should just trade Demmer and be done with it. Just go with the guy who doesn't have the injury issues and the young backstop who looks like he can step up in the big games/playoffs.

I would be all for this if I was on the camp of tear it all down now and unload every asset including Quinn. Because goaltending wouldn’t really matter anymore anyway. (I may get there yet)

But if you still care about how this season turns out and hope it leads to a Quinn extension, trading Demmer now is about the riskiest, dumbest moves you can make. That is unless you can get a mid 20’s top line center in return for him. Who’s giving up a mid 20’s top line center for an injury prone goalie? Nobody. The best you can hope for is a middle 6 guy, someone like Chytil. I’m sorry, I am not sacrificing our potentially biggest difference-making strength for another Chytil just to fill a gap. Demmer sitting in the press box is worth more imo just to know he’s there and his potential is available at worst.

I’m really surprised how this market is so dismissive of Demko’s importance despite his injury concerns. Everybody on the team could bounce back and have great seasons. None of it will matter if Lankinen is a pumpkin and Silovs shows he can only handle AHL shooters. Lank was good last year for about 4 months when he all but matched Demmer’s numbers. He did that with no expectations and a major security blanket sitting on the shelf. Now remove Demko from the mix, he’s suddenly THE guy and with zero margin for error. It’s a completely different mentality to have to shoulder that kind of pressure. Same for Silovs. This is why there are always a handful of goalies who look phenomenal one year and can’t repeat it the next. If both guys falter, there’s virtually nothing anybody can do to salvage the season.

I’d love to see Lankinen prove me wrong and show that last season was no fluke. Until he does I’m not taking that chance. A team like the Oilers can get away with sub-average goaltending. This team can’t.

[Chef Boi RD]

The athletic twittered a ranking of all the NHL teams by position:

The Canucks:

Center: 27th
Wingers: 28th
Defense: 5th



Loved this quote about it:

“Canucks have one of the best defensive groups in the league. All it took was nuking the forward group.”

[UWSaint]

UW wasn't Lank signed during the period where Demko's hockey career was potentially in jeopardy due to the popleteus drama? It wasn't looking good and there were concerns over having Silovs as your #1 with KL expiring at seasons end.

It hasn't necessarily aged all that well given Thatcher's apparent recovery but then again that isn't a given either is it

I'll give them a pass on that one

Really my number one issue with this regime is fucking around with the Zadorov situation and losing that character from the mix. To a lesser extent losing Cole was another flub I'm not fond of but most of the other moves haven't been that bad in my eyes

Cuz, do you think Lankinen gave a deadline and wouldn’t have taken that deal in June?

[Blob Mckenzie]

The athletic twittered a ranking of all the NHL teams by position:

The Canucks:

Center: 27th
Wingers: 28th
Defense: 5th



Loved this quote about it:

“Canucks have one of the best defensive groups in the league. All it took was nuking the forward group.”

And a lot of chumps that don't watch games get their "knowledge from these sorts of sites.

Chef, come clean. You are a fan of managements.... not the players, certainly not the game. You were no fan of Quinn, Burke or Gillis, but thought Randy Bo Bandy did well. You ate the corn from Benning's bum and continue to do so.

Is there an off button to press? You repeat the same shit twenty times a day. Why not look at what they might do with the 8.5 million remaining in cap space instead of regaling everyone all hours of the day how enraged you are that they fired the guy that helped you understand his three and four letter words? Or don't... I guess

[Nuckertuzzi]

Will be interesting to see how long they wait to start negotiating Kane's next deal...

If they're a smart/responsible management group they'd wait till Feb/March to see how things shake out not just from Kane's performance but more importantly the team's to weigh extension over sell.

Yet I wouldn't be surprised anymore if they announce an extension next week.

[Chef Boi RD]

The athletic twittered a ranking of all the NHL teams by position:

The Canucks:

Center: 27th
Wingers: 28th
Defense: 5th



Loved this quote about it:

“Canucks have one of the best defensive groups in the league. All it took was nuking the forward group.”

And a lot of chumps that don't watch games get their "knowledge from these sorts of sites.

Chef, come clean. You are a fan of managements.... not the players, certainly not the game. You were no fan of Quinn, Burke or Gillis, but thought Randy Bo Bandy did well. You ate the corn from Benning's bum and continue to do so.

Is there an off button to press? You repeat the same shit twenty times a day. Why not look at what they might do with the 8.5 million remaining in cap space instead of regaling everyone all hours of the day how enraged you are that they fired the guy that helped you understand his three and four letter words? Or don't... I guess

Don’t shoot the messenger. I’m just a conduit to the vibe on the street bringing it to ya.

You can’t deny those rankings. “All it took was nuking the forward group” lol, is he wrong?

[Blob Mckenzie]

You are a miserable soul. We know they need to work on the forward group. The off season just started. You won't shut up about it.

Enjoy yourself. I'm taking a breather from this shit for a few days.

Carry on.

[Chef Boi RD]

I hear we are interested in more middle 6 forwards. Hearing the Canucks are kicking tires on Bjugstad and Maccelli. Can’t have enough middle six. We lead the league.

[Ronning's Ghost]

They weren't sure about Demmer's health/durability

I'm still not. There were question marks when he came into the League, and he, we, and the Canucks are lucky he's lasted as long as he has. Every additional month we get of near-peak Demko represents more excellent dividends on what turned out to be a great gamble at the drafting table, but it would be rash to count on any more to the point of planning the team construction around it.

Unless whoever wins the back-up job absolutely craters (and it shouldn't be that hard to put in an adequate goaltending performance behind a quality defence), I hope they really limit Demko's games through the early and middle part of the season, so that he's as healthy and sharp as theoretically possible for any stretch run or playoff games.

[Cousin Strawberry]

UW wasn't Lank signed during the period where Demko's hockey career was potentially in jeopardy due to the popleteus drama? It wasn't looking good and there were concerns over having Silovs as your #1 with KL expiring at seasons end.

It hasn't necessarily aged all that well given Thatcher's apparent recovery but then again that isn't a given either is it

I'll give them a pass on that one

Really my number one issue with this regime is fucking around with the Zadorov situation and losing that character from the mix. To a lesser extent losing Cole was another flub I'm not fond of but most of the other moves haven't been that bad in my eyes

Cuz, do you think Lankinen gave a deadline and wouldn’t have taken that deal in June?

He had also just enjoyed the longest most productive stretch of his career so was likely going to be sought after, if I recall. I would think they didn't want to run the risk of having nobody left to stop pucks.

Again, in hindsight it ends up an overpayment but at the time I think they were quite concerned