Just Not ready

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Dhalla done.

Libs white wash her from the Leadership contest.
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Even their leadership race reeks of WEF/Elite meddling.
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I'm just learning that she used to be a big Modi supporter, but has recently become more vague on that. This ties with the Kalistani wing of the Liberal/NDP (Jaguarmeat and his family are barred from India because of their Kalistani links) party.

Seems the big no no was a corporate donation that paid staffers for her.

But the woman of colour argument is fun given Trudeau's past statements vs his past action.
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rikster wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:03 am
BCExpat wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:30 am The more I listen to Carney, the more I'm convinced he is a lying sack of shit and would send this country even further down the road to ruin. He can't and shouldn't be trusted.
So the life long politician with zero experience in the real world is the person you think is best able to tackle the major crisisis facing Canada?

And what has he accomplished while in Government?

There is no record to attack because he hasn't done anything of note...

What roles did Stephen Harper give him when he was Prime Minister?

As for the Philip Cross video someone posted, that is suppose to disqualify Carney? I watched it and came away with the opposite view...

Second guessing the work of someone in very senior positions, especially if they dealt with crisis is what some people like to do...

The bigger worry is when someone has never been is a senior position and therefore has never had to deal with a crisis...

The moment is too big with too much to lose to turn the office of Prime Minister over to such an unacomplished person as PP when you have the experience of Carney willing to take on the challenges...

Really shouldn't be a hard decsion to make...
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rikster wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:46 am
Tciso wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 8:01 pm
rikster wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2025 7:30 pm In other words you're just talking out of your rear end which is fine, but when you start accusing someone of being a weasel because you lack the ability to understand financial concepts then maybe you should listen more and talk less...
Please explain. I have given a solid reason why splitting spending, debt and deficits into different categories is dumb, and misleading. Feel free to provide a counter argument that supports your point.
Your beef is with GAAP and the Financial Accounting Standards Board so you should take up your concern with them....
So, I’ll assume you are a qualified CPA/CMA up to date on the various differences in the application of Generally Accepted Accounting Principles between individuals, small businesses, limited partnerships, corporations, and all levels of governments, and can explain the differences for us?

But, whatever that answer is, it also does not change the fact that there are no practical benefits to separating the operating budget from the capital budget, compared to leaving it as it currently is. If there are any benefits, I would like to know, as I can see none.

The information used to build the current budget is broken down in fine detail and in multitudes of categories, including capital projects. The current budget already supports tracking capital projects, including expenditures and debts at the same level that tracking them separately would.

As a negative, the government can claim any milestone they want on the operating budget side that is completely devoid of reality by simply hiding more debt in the operating budget. There are no mortgages when it comes to federal debt. And, the payment of that debt is also not compulsory, allowing it to grow unabated, all while the government claims all is well since the operating budget is doing well. Bye Bye $60billion deficits on the news. And we lose another level of accountability.


In my opinion, Carney has a terrible record for the last 5 years. He has been a financial advisor to Trudeau and Freeland. So, he was either listened to by those 2, and his advise has a lot of responsibility for the economics of the past 5 years; or he was ignored for 5 years, but kept quiet, and even cheered as they did what Carney knew was wrong.

I don’t think he can handle the power of having 2 budgets given his history with corporations, and their ability to hide monies all around the world, including using Canada’s banking system. I am not implying any negative morality of Carney. I don’t think that any politician should have that ability .

By the way, if you are having doubts, go google the Canadian annual deficits for the past 25 years. See if the data supports me.
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rikster wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:06 am
BCExpat wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 9:23 am
Topper wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:42 am
BCExpat wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:30 am The more I listen to Carney, the more I'm convinced he is a lying sack of shit and would send this country even further down the road to ruin. He can't and shouldn't be trusted.
Did you listen to Phillip Cross? Damning.

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Yes, I watched that. Loved the comment "Carney has open mouth disease" LOL
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The 7 budgets he claims to have assisted with, while being so busy with all his other jobs, that didn't up all his time because many were figurehead charity positions, to spend time advising government economic policy as an outsider who spoke with the finance minister weekly.

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rikster wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 10:03 am
BCExpat wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 8:30 am The more I listen to Carney, the more I'm convinced he is a lying sack of shit and would send this country even further down the road to ruin. He can't and shouldn't be trusted.
So the life long politician with zero experience in the real world is the person you think is best able to tackle the major crisisis facing Canada?

And what has he accomplished while in Government?

There is no record to attack because he hasn't done anything of note...

What roles did Stephen Harper give him when he was Prime Minister?

As for the Philip Cross video someone posted, that is suppose to disqualify Carney? I watched it and came away with the opposite view...

Second guessing the work of someone in very senior positions, especially if they dealt with crisis is what some people like to do...

The bigger worry is when someone has never been is a senior position and therefore has never had to deal with a crisis...

The moment is too big with too much to lose to turn the office of Prime Minister over to such an unacomplished person as PP when you have the experience of Carney willing to take on the challenges...

Really shouldn't be a hard decsion to make...
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I remember the good old days.. when a single scandal would topple a government. Now, we have one every few months and nobody blinks. Corruption runs rampant and more debt has been racked up with the current Liberal government than combined in our history, but hey! They can change it all with a new leader and a new set of lies!

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As of March 31, 2024, Canada's federal debt was $1,236.2 billion, which is 42.1% of the country's GDP.
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dangler wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:21 am As of March 31, 2024, Canada's federal debt was $1,236.2 billion, which is 42.1% of the country's GDP.
What was the deficit each year?
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rikster wrote: Fri Feb 21, 2025 11:48 am
I spent the first half of my working life in the corporate world where one of my earliest tasks was breaking down financial statments from companies doing business with us...

The last half was spent owning and operating a company with multi million $'s in annual revenues..

I am relying on my experiences to form my decision...
I got my commerce degree with extra electives in finance and political studies. I later became a certified internal auditor for an institution with a budget over $600 million. Then, I went into financial services dealing with individuals and corporations regarding investments, taxes and insurance and all aspects of budgetting.

We all have experience. Don't try to denigrate my opinion based on your lack of knowledge on my education or experience.
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Tisco, well said. Some aren't impressed by folks who need to show off their resumes before starting their point.

I'd say many here have experience in finance of some sort whether that's professional accounting and finance or business experience running large budgets and staffs.

It isn't difficult to see bullshit. It is most often wrapped in long rambling circuitous descriptions when a few words would suffice.
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Tciso wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:57 am
dangler wrote: Sat Feb 22, 2025 7:21 am As of March 31, 2024, Canada's federal debt was $1,236.2 billion, which is 42.1% of the country's GDP.
What was the deficit each year?
'16 -'17 it was $40.2 B
'23 - '24 it was$69.5B (73% increase)
Trudeau added 108,793 bureaucrats since '16
a 42% increase compared to a 14% population increase
even if PP gets elected he'll have a hard time unfucking everything
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