Quinn Hughes next contract

[Chef Boi RD]

After this forgettable season is over Hughes has two years remaining on his contract in which he becomes free for the taking. The bigger question here, this looming pivotal point in canuck history, will our greatest D-man ever and quite possibly best player ever in Canuck history want to re-up here? He has two brothers he is very close to going “hey Quinn, let’s all do Jersey in two years”.

Not looking good, boys. Everything Allvin does moving forward, every decision he makes will help define Hughes decision on whether he wants to stay here or go hang with his bros in Jersey.

Oh, and if you think Petey’s contract is big

[Lancer]

After this forgettable season is over Hughes has two years remaining on his contract in which he becomes free for the taking. The bigger question here, this looming pivotal point in canuck history, will our greatest D-man ever and quite possibly best player ever in Canuck history want to re-up here? He has two brothers he is very close to going “hey Quinn, let’s all do Jersey in two years”.

Not looking good, boys. Everything Allvin does moving forward, every decision he makes will help define Hughes decision on whether he wants to stay here or go hang with his bros in Jersey.

Oh, and if you think Petey’s contract is big

Yeah, we smirk about how much cap space McBaby and Crysaitl take up but we could be in a similar bind with whatever Quinn gets on top of Petey's hit. Thing is, Quinn could ask for an identical deal or more, and all he will have to do is point to at least one (and likely another) Norris Trophy for argument.

[theman]

Every decision that Canucks need to make for the rest of the season is to keep Hughes happy to be a Canuck. If he wants Petey gone, ship him. If he wants JTM gone, ship him as well. If Tocchet has lost him, ship him as well. Just think of all the money Aquaman can save on the cab fare by carpooling them. Don't have to listen to his advice/opinion 100% but he needs to be consultant to a large degree.

[Chef Boi RD]

Yeah, it’s Hughes team for sure, no denying that, and they have to protect that, I worry all this shit is going to start affecting him and his desire to stay here. No way, you’re walking this guy to UFA, he would definitely choose Jersey to play with his brothers than remain in this circus. Allvin and Rutherford has some serious shit to work through. Make or break

[Ronning's Ghost]

Every decision that Canucks need to make for the rest of the season is to keep Hughes happy to be a Canuck.

And if that can't be done -- and I can imagine a few reasons why is couldn't be -- setting him up for maximum trade value while he's still under contract.

If Hughes walks up to free agency and says "so long and thanks for all the fish" without any return for the Canucks at all, heads should roll.

Poor asset management is one of the things I find most infuriating in an ownership/management group.

[Cornuck]

No way, you’re walking this guy to UFA, he would definitely choose Jersey to play with his brothers than remain in this circus.

It's one thing to have one of the franchise's greatest players coming up as UFA, but another to have the temptation for him to join his family. Assuming he wants to do that, of course.

No matter what, this team needs to give him a few reasons to stay - and stitching the C to his jersey helps, but then deduct points for the media circus. I can't see why Aquaman can't sign him to a nice contract and then a REALLY good endorsement deal.

I really hoped we were past all of this shit after last season, but nope! Right back in the middle of the drama: "why would someone sign here", "who needs to be shipped out", "it must be the coach", etc etc - and the Captain stuck in the middle of it all.

[Meds]

Blow it the fuck up in the off-season.

To NJ: Pettersson + Willander + 1st + ?

To VAN: Hughes brothers.

Take the mystery out of 2 years from now.

[Strangelove]

You offer this guy whatever he wants for as long as he wants.

And if he won't extend you trade him in the summer of 2026.

[Ronning's Ghost]

Every decision that Canucks need to make for the rest of the season is to keep Hughes happy to be a Canuck.

And if that can't be done -- and I can imagine a few reasons why is couldn't be

Let's examine some possible reasons:

1) As noted, the Hughes brothers might want to play together. They might even have already picked a destination franchise. It is not likely Vancouver.

2) "Sorry guys, I appreciate everything you've done for my hockey career, but I'd like a chance to win a Stanley Cup before I retire. You can't build a winning roster here because management is dysfunctional, and management is dysfunctional because ownership is dysfunctional, and that's not changing. You have two more seasons to prove me wrong, but I don't see it."

3) Even on a well-built team, winning a Stanley Cup in any individual season is against the odds. But management quality can also affect a player's day-to-day experience. Does Quinn believe that his coaches and teammates are, by NHL standards, reasonably sane and good to work with? If they aren't, then per point 2, does he believe they can change?

And even if the franchise is doing everything it can about that, he might not like the city, the fans, or the media.

Of course Quinn is too smart to say any of those things out loud, but a smart management team might be able to find out.

All of the foregoing assumes that young Mr. Hughes is more interested in his playing experience than his paycheque, but maybe he's all about the Benjamins. In that case,

4) It's not what you earn, it's what you keep. Even if he signs for exactly the same salary and term, at the end of his contract, he has more money if he signs in, say, Florida, than in Vancouver.

I expect that Quinn knows that. Even if he doesn't, his agent certainly does, and so do his brothers'.

To lay against all that, do any of you know of any reasons why QH would want to stay in Vancouver? Close relationships on the team?
Girlfriend really loves it here? Really likes being Captain?

[Meds]

Every decision that Canucks need to make for the rest of the season is to keep Hughes happy to be a Canuck.

And if that can't be done -- and I can imagine a few reasons why is couldn't be

Let's examine some possible reasons:

1) As noted, the Hughes brothers might want to play together. They might even have already picked a destination franchise. It is not likely Vancouver.

2) "Sorry guys, I appreciate everything you've done for my hockey career, but I'd like a chance to win a Stanley Cup before I retire. You can't build a winning roster here because management is dysfunctional, and management is dysfunctional because ownership is dysfunctional, and that's not changing. You have two more seasons to prove me wrong, but I don't see it."

3) Even on a well-built team, winning a Stanley Cup in any individual season is against the odds. But management quality can also affect a player's day-to-day experience. Does Quinn believe that his coaches and teammates are, by NHL standards, reasonably sane and good to work with? If they aren't, then per point 2, does he believe they can change?

And even if the franchise is doing everything it can about that, he might not like the city, the fans, or the media.

Of course Quinn is too smart to say any of those things out loud, but a smart management team might be able to find out.

All of the foregoing assumes that young Mr. Hughes is more interested in his playing experience than his paycheque, but maybe he's all about the Benjamins. In that case,

4) It's not what you earn, it's what you keep. Even if he signs for exactly the same salary and term, at the end of his contract, he has more money if he signs in, say, Florida, than in Vancouver.

I expect that Quinn knows that. Even if he doesn't, his agent certainly does, and so do his brothers'.

To lay against all that, do any of you know of any reasons why QH would want to stay in Vancouver? Close relationships on the team?
Girlfriend really loves it here? Really likes being Captain?

All good points RG.

I've said a few times, mostly tongue-in-cheek, that if the franchise wants QH here for his career then they need to get at least one of his brothers out of Jersey. Honestly, the more I've heard about how those boys grew up playing hockey and with their dad such an involved parent/coach, it's really the only way to do it.

And frankly, I'd pay the price to make that happen. It won't happen during the season, but at or before the draft I do think the Canucks have the trade capital to pull that trigger.

1 - Move Miller at the or before the deadline and hope to fuck that Pettersson bounces back with that move. If he does then his value is up and.....

2 - Pettersson + Willander + pick + whatever else to Jersey for Jack and Luke.

3 - Demko out for some draft capital return.

4 - See what Lankinen wants, and kick the tires on Logan Thompson who is UFA this summer.

[Chef Boi RD]

Can somebody break Mëds heart and tell him the Devils ain’t trading Luke and Jack Hughes.

[donlever]

Lol.

I don't think he really believes it Dude.

You wouldn't get Jack alone for EP and Willander.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Can somebody break Mëds heart and tell him the Devils ain’t trading Luke and Jack Hughes.

Lol obviously buuut...

If this core is truly broken save Hughes...

You could gut their souls and have a franchise altering return package by sending Quinn thataway instead.

Trade everyone, scorched earth and start again. It's moves such as this that set a team up for 2-4 years from now

[Ronning's Ghost]

Trade everyone, scorched earth and start again. It's moves such as this that set a team up for 2-4 years from now

It would be our best hope at a Stanley Cup in my lifetime, assuming that they have the right management team in place to execute it.

But unless they have undergone life-changing events (visited by 4 ghosts? psychedelics?), there's no way the Little Eagles approve such a plan.

[donlever]

It would be our best hope at a Stanley Cup in my lifetime.

...what do we see in this team that the Canucks could potentially contend for a Cup in the next half decade?

assuming that they have the right management team in place to execute it.

...unfortunately unlikely.

...there's no way the Little Eagles approve such a plan.

There is not.