W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:42 pm Was he injured? Or did he just skate off holding his mouth (for effect?) and come right back out?
He was bleeding no?

How many years have we watched this league designate blood flow as definition of injury?
Cornuck wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:42 pm It was a fluke penalty, with him hitting his face on edge of the boards. Hughes let up, and just gave him a little shove. In 95% of the time, it would be a harmless play. I always look at these from the "what if it was a Canuck that got hit?" perspective and think I would have initially been pissed - but wouldn't have expected a game misconduct for that hit. The major was enough.
All fair comments.

However, as HW has noted as the rule reads & by the letter of the law a GM was mandated.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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I think he used a fake blood capsule to get the 5. You can see his hand reach for something right before he holds his mouth.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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Right after Hughes gooned Norris :shock: , there was an Ottawa players and a Canuck player below the goal line and the Ottawa player applied a cross check push to the Canuck player in the back and they rode into the boards normally. It’s a play that happens a couple dozen times in a game. There would have been nothing to see if Norris had a strong stance and hadn’t already blown his cut back. But it happened, so it was a penalty. The only intention Norris might have had was to embellish the injury, but I am not sure he even did that. A face to the dasher falling down is going to sting, and it was of a force the spotters may have sent him back to the locker room no matter what.

Do you remember about 10-15 years ago when Burrows got a cross check from behind into the boards (more severe) and went down like a rented mule laid and then didn’t miss a shift? Led to the ref (dont remember his name, a French Canadian iirc) taking Burrows number and later reportedly telling Burrows he was going to get him. The league circled the wagons as the rumors circulated, but then quietly the ref’s contract was not renewed.

At any rate, I understand the call on Hughes and chalk it up to misfortune more than anything else. If the reffing was to be complained about, it was the refs letting the game get out of control in the third; giving Hoglander the extra two when if anything it should have gone the other way was poor referee game management. At the time of the incident, the Sens had been running guys dangerously in non hockey plays for quite a while in a game that was more or less out of reach. The Sens were rewarded with a power play, thereby signaling that this was the way to play to get back in it. You can discourage it and penalize it at the margins to shut it down, you can “let them play”, but you can’t reward it.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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I’ve always associated a boarding call with that of a player actually throwing a body check to another player multiple feet from the boards.

Now, if it was Myers who did the infraction, I could see why the refs would throw him out because he does at times lose the benefit of the doubt due to his size.

Quinn is a buck eighty with gear on, and he gave a non egregious cross check that, as UW stated, happens a dozen times a game.

Wasn’t worthy of an ejection.
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Re: W-GDT: Canucks @ OTT - Nov 23 4pm - SNet

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BoS wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2024 11:47 am I’ve always associated a boarding call with that of a player actually throwing a body check to another player multiple feet from the boards.

Now, if it was Myers who did the infraction, I could see why the refs would throw him out because he does at times lose the benefit of the doubt due to his size.

Quinn is a buck eighty with gear on, and he gave a non egregious cross check that, as UW stated, happens a dozen times a game.

Wasn’t worthy of an ejection.
I agree it was not worthy of an ejection. There was no intent on that play and he did not use a lot of force. Unfortunately the rules say if an injury to the head or face results it is a major and a game. Norris was injured and bleeding. His lips were pretty swollen when he got back. So fortunately it was a minor injury for him. Unfortunately for Hughes it was an injury. The thing I am not clear on is if they had called it crosschecking would he still have been ejected or given a double miner? But on the face of it it was lame Hughes got called but it is what it is. If it had been reversed I would be screaming for someone to be kicked out.

The real travesty is that Benn got away with a much more egregious boarding play.
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