Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[rats19]

Joleivi (sp?)

Jew-Levi

Is that a tax?

Every time you buy a diamond or get a bank loan

So expect to pay on a loan for a diamond

[Cousin Strawberry]

Youll come away with a diamond and a doiley but no foreskin

[rats19]

Youll come away with a diamond and a doiley but no foreskin

Vig

[SKYO]

I believe the Canucks would like to sign Tanev but got a feeling that signing Markstrom is priority to them, that’s when the dominos tip. It’s either Tanev or the cheaper option in Tryamkin who can play the right side and sign Toffoli

The big right wing trade won’t happen until Podkolzin arrives about the time Lind is knocking on the door. Same time we trade Demko

*Insomnia*

Almost forgot about Tryamkin aha, yeah he definitely prefers the right side.

And if looking at Tanev's blocked shots, he's good for over a hundred each season, but he's not a hitter type.

Tryamkin had 87 blocked shots in 66 games in his one season here, so it stands to reason he can get over 100 blocked shots easily over 82 games, plus he'd be one of our top hitters as he had 145 hits that year.

Napkin brings a few of the missing intangibles the team desperately lacks on the back end. Sure you give up alot losimg Tanev but if he returns to 60 games a year max then how much are you losing?

One thing to think about is Hughes ability to move the puck would have been a factor in Tanevs durability. Teams cant just focus on and seal CT off when his partner is the real threat for transitioning pucks.

Exactly and good teams have the knack of losing a veteran and replacing them with a NHL ready younger fella.

I'm assuming Tanev is looking for his last big payday with term, the way he's playing in his contract year - probably playing thru tough injuries.

[SKYO]

Jake Virtanen + Olli Juolevi for Noah Dobson + Bellows

Isles gotta re-sign Barzal to $$$$ and are a bit weaker on LD depth wise.

& NYI got a slew of RD:
- Boychuk (m-ntc only 8 teams)
- Pulock (rfa, looking for big bucks, around $7M AAV give or take - reference: https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ben-Shelley ... 270/105684)
- Mayfield
- Dobson
- Wilde

I'd re-sign Toffoli first, then use JV as a trade chip to shore up our RD, unless Barrie takes a paycut to sign here IF he really is keen on playing in Vancity.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Jake Virtanen + Olli Juolevi for Noah Dobson + Bellows

Isles gotta re-sign Barzal to $$$$ and are a bit weaker on LD depth wise.

& NYI got a slew of RD:
- Boychuk (m-ntc only 8 teams)
- Pulock (rfa, looking for big bucks, around $7M AAV give or take - reference: https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ben-Shelley ... 270/105684)
- Mayfield
- Dobson
- Wilde

I'd re-sign Toffoli first, then use JV as a trade chip to shore up our RD, unless Barrie takes a paycut to sign here IF he really is keen on playing in Vancity.

Nobody will be prying Dobson outta NY. He's their golden boy unfortunately for us...I've been thinking how perfect he would look on our team as well

[Blob Mckenzie]

Jake Virtanen + Olli Juolevi for Noah Dobson + Bellows

Isles gotta re-sign Barzal to $$$$ and are a bit weaker on LD depth wise.

& NYI got a slew of RD:
- Boychuk (m-ntc only 8 teams)
- Pulock (rfa, looking for big bucks, around $7M AAV give or take - reference: https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ben-Shelley ... 270/105684)
- Mayfield
- Dobson
- Wilde

I'd re-sign Toffoli first, then use JV as a trade chip to shore up our RD, unless Barrie takes a paycut to sign here IF he really is keen on playing in Vancity.

LMFAO exactly why do the Islanders do that?

[SKYO]

Jake Virtanen + Olli Juolevi for Noah Dobson + Bellows

Isles gotta re-sign Barzal to $$$$ and are a bit weaker on LD depth wise.

& NYI got a slew of RD:
- Boychuk (m-ntc only 8 teams)
- Pulock (rfa, looking for big bucks, around $7M AAV give or take - reference: https://hockeybuzz.com/blog/Ben-Shelley ... 270/105684)
- Mayfield
- Dobson
- Wilde

I'd re-sign Toffoli first, then use JV as a trade chip to shore up our RD, unless Barrie takes a paycut to sign here IF he really is keen on playing in Vancity.

Nobody will be prying Dobson outta NY. He's their golden boy unfortunately for us...I've been thinking how perfect he would look on our team as well

Or Pulock if they are having problems re-signing him for whatever reason, but we need to include a cap dump.

[Blob Mckenzie]

They aren’t trading Pulock for Virtanen and a garbage prospect. You’d be lucky to get Mayfield for that package

[SKYO]

They aren’t trading Pulock for Virtanen and a garbage prospect. You’d be lucky to get Mayfield for that package

Mayfield for Jake Virtanen and Olli Juolevi? lol give your head a shake bro.

[Blob Mckenzie]

They aren’t trading Pulock for Virtanen and a garbage prospect. You’d be lucky to get Mayfield for that package

Mayfield for Jake Virtanen and Olli Juolevi? lol give your head a shake bro.

Almost as dumb as thinking you could get Dobson or Pulock for your garbage offer. Why exactly do the Islanders want to trade their best D man who is 25 and their best young D man who is 19 for a third liner and a scrub prospect? You want either of those guys you add Podkolzin to Virtanen to start and they might not hang up. Juolevi is useless to them.

[SKYO]

They aren’t trading Pulock for Virtanen and a garbage prospect. You’d be lucky to get Mayfield for that package

Mayfield for Jake Virtanen and Olli Juolevi? lol give your head a shake bro.

Almost as dumb as thinking you could get Dobson or Pulock for your garbage offer. Why exactly do the Islanders want to trade their best D man who is 25 and their best young D man who is 19 for a third liner and a scrub prospect? You want either of those guys you add Podkolzin to Virtanen to start and they might not hang up. Juolevi is useless to them.

Yeah Juolevi has to get some proven NHL experience to gain any value, but he's definitely not garbage, he's just been unlucky in getting injured, he played great prior to injury on the Comets eventually getting top pairing ice time, penalty kill and powerplay time.

pass it to bulis:

Juolevi entered the AHL with lofty expectations preceding him. Though Juolevi had some early growing pains adjusting his skating to the increased pace of play, he managed to pick up one goal and twelve assists in 18 games played. His 0.72 points-per-game placed him first among Comets defencemen and sixth among all Comets players. At one point, Juolevi’s production had him leading all rookie defensemen in the league.



Before a second spate of injuries took him out of action for three weeks, Juolevi was leaned on heavily by head coach Trent Cull. Through the first 14 games of the season, Juolevi was a prominent fixture on both of the Comets’ special teams. As a member of the Comets’ first penalty-killing unit and first powerplay unit, Juolevi logged considerable minutes.

Juolevi was one of six players to play in every one of the Comets’ first 14 games. By my measures, Juolevi averaged the third-highest minutes of those six players with 317.19 minutes played. 22:39 estimated TOI per-game.

Where Juolevi made his presence known most was as a mainstay on the Comets penalty kill. During Juolevi’s first run of games, he logged the most blocks of any Comets penalty killer, and it wasn’t even close.

One of Juolevi’s primary assets that has contributed to his impressive points-production is his elite passing and vision. From the start of the 2019-20 season, Juolevi has displayed the same patient and crisp tape-to-tape passing that featured as one of the lone bright spots during his otherwise tragic 2018-19 campaign.

Juolevi’s teammate awareness has led to some gorgeous goals for the Comets.

And Virtanen is finally coming into his own with some bulldog hits, speed galore and appears he finally got his shot back, could have got 20+ goals this season over 82 games. He'd be a better option over Brassard and their RW depth.

Islanders Current lineup up front:
Lee - Barzal - Eberle
Beauvillier - Nelson - Brassard
Dal Cole - Pageau - Bailey
Martin - Cizikas - Clutterbuck
Ladd-Kuhnhackl-Komorov
https://eyesonisles.com/2020/05/30/isla ... axi-squad/

NYI offseason Brassard, Martin, Kuhnhackl are all UFA's. MDC looks like a bust.
Bailey can play LW/RW, Wahlstrom likely makes it.

But they'll likely need a top 6/9 RW.

Anyways another RD I'm interested in Pesce, seems like a younger Tanev, doesn't hit much, but blocks shots and gets a lot of penalty kill time, plus is a bit more talented scoring wise, gets way more shots on net.

[Blob Mckenzie]

SKYO I’d like any of those three guys but Pulock and Pesce are 25 year old top pairing guys. You aren’t getting them for Jake Virtanen and Olli Juolevi. Put Brock Boeser and a better prospect on the table and they may bite. I happen to think Dobson will be the best of those 4 guys. I can’t see any reason for the Islanders to entertain moving him.

[Chef Boi RD]

Barzal apparently wants out of New York. I believe him and Lou will end up hating each other while negotiating Barzals next contract which haves me believing a potential trading of Barzal out of New York. Would not be surprised seeing a Johnny Gaudreau for Barzal type of trade. Or Zegras (Anaheim), or Hayton (Phoenix), or Turcotte (LA) for Barzal. I think Barzal longs for the west. There is also the Seattle angle where Matt played junior. I could see Francis pushing to get Barzal, turn around a package for him. Lou is tight with his spending and I think Barzal might want more than he deserves. The Islanders are not big spenders. A tough signing for Lou. Barzal’s style of game is also strangled under Trotz.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Barzal apparently wants out of New York. I believe him and Lou will end up hating each other while negotiating Barzals next contract which haves me believing a potential trading of Barzal out of New York. Would not be surprised seeing a Johnny Gaudreau for Barzal type of trade. Or Zegras (Anaheim), or Hayton (Phoenix), or Turcotte (LA) for Barzal. I think Barzal longs for the west. Lou is right with his spending and I think Barzal might want more than he deserves. A tough signing for Lou. Barzal’s style of game is also strangled under Trotz.

SKYO would you brew up a super trade that includes Boeser for Barzal and another quality asset for any one of the 3 dmen on the isle that were previously mentioned in this thread?

Say something like...Boeser and Gaudette for Barzal and Dobson