Hockey Widow wrote:gotta admit, again, I admire the way the Hawks do it. And Topper is right, we get way to attached and don't do the deals when we should.
On TSN yesterday,Aaron Ward was asked if he were rebuilding the Canucks what would he do. What he said was, I know it isn't popular but you take the guy with the most trade value, Edler, and you trade him for a hefty return. A coveted, big D man with good term and contract left. If we really want a rebuild we should not only be clearing out over the hill vets but getting something for players like Edler.
Problem is we are not rebuilding so we hang onto pieces of the core.
I have been saying this for years, trade any player when you can max the return.
I am sooooo way passed caring about the name on the back, just bring a freaking SC before I die in 50 years.
Jones signs in San Jose. 3 years, 3M per cap. Lot of coin for a guy with what, so ya like 34 NHL games under his belt. Wonder what Eddie will demand from Carolina next year. I guess Wilson has to justify trading a 1st plus a prospect for him.
Rumours out of Calgary that Gio is asking for 9 million per on a new deal. He'll be 32-32 when his new contract begins. Can't see the Flames giving him that. Probably settle on 7.5 for 5 years. Flames just starting to see the cost of high end talent again. Guy is gonna cost a lot of coin to come back for 2016-2017.
Hockey Widow wrote:Rumours out of Calgary that Gio is asking for 9 million per on a new deal. He'll be 32-32 when his new contract begins. Can't see the Flames giving him that. Probably settle on 7.5 for 5 years. Flames just starting to see the cost of high end talent again. Guy is gonna cost a lot of coin to come back for 2016-2017.
Yeah, lucky for the Flames they have the cap space to make that deal happen. I'm guessing a 5-6 year front-loaded deal.
Hockey Widow wrote:Jones signs in San Jose. 3 years, 3M per cap. Lot of coin for a guy with what, so ya like 34 NHL games under his belt. Wonder what Eddie will demand from Carolina next year. I guess Wilson has to justify trading a 1st plus a prospect for him.
Who knows, Niemi just signed in Dallas for $4.5M per season (3-years). Seems like the going rate ($3-$4M) for a hot-cold starting goalie. We know how fucked the goalie trade market is, obviously the contract negotiations are similar.
EDIT: what happens with Lehtonen? Are the Stars really going to roll with $10.4M in goalies?
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Who knows, Niemi just signed in Dallas for $4.5M per season (3-years). Seems like the going rate ($3-$4M) for a hot-cold starting goalie. We know how fucked the goalie trade market is, obviously the contract negotiations are similar.
EDIT: what happens with Lehtonen? Are the Stars really going to roll with $10.4M in goalies?
I have read Nill wants to have a 1a 1b and ride the hot goalie.
So maybe someone had/has an oxy addiction and last year said he had kicked it but getting caught with it breached his contract even if he didn't do anything illegal?
So maybe like a GM said to a player, hey we know you're on this stuff and we are going to use our compliance buy out if you don't look me in the eye and promise you will change and he said yes, I'll change. But still having the stuff was the slap in the face material breach? But I don't understand, if that's the case, why the league's substance abuse program wouldn't kick in resulting in a suspension but no contract breach.
I don't know what happened either but they also say it happened June 17, not the day before the draft.
IN, 5-6 years takes him to what 38-39. Really think he gets that much for so long. Maybe why he wants 9 million. Or is he younger than that. I thought he was 32 now. I'll look it up, maybe I'm out to lunch on this.
Looked it up,he will be 32 in Oct this year. So a new deal will start around his 33rd birthday. 5-6 years is a long time for an injury prone D man who ain't gonna get a lot better but rather will be on the decline. I guess if the Flames feel they can win a cup by then he is a guy you want around.
Hockey Widow wrote:So maybe someone had/has an oxy addiction and last year said he had kicked it but getting caught with it breached his contract even if he didn't do anything illegal?
His ex-fiance is a doctor too... hope he didn't get caught with a script pad. Who knows, but I doubt it was a just a gentleman's agreement with his GM he violated if there was a material breach of contract. Judging from the reaction I'd guess he did something illegal and just hasn't been charged yet.
Every time I look out my window, same three dogs looking back at me.
Hockey Widow wrote:IN, 5-6 years takes him to what 38-39. Really think he gets that much for so long. Maybe why he wants 9 million. Or is he younger than that. I thought he was 32 now. I'll look it up, maybe I'm out to lunch on this.
Looked it up,he will be 32 in Oct this year. So a new deal will start around his 33rd birthday. 5-6 years is a long time for an injury prone D man who ain't gonna get a lot better but rather will be on the decline. I guess if the Flames feel they can win a cup by then he is a guy you want around.
Well the Flames only get so much say in all this. If they want to keep him, I'm guessing they'll have to bend on either term or dollars. My guess is they'll go that extra year, rather than higher AAV. Or maybe they'll buck the trend and give him short-term high dollar. But if you're Giordano you want your deal to either end before you're 35, or take you to retirement. 35+ deals are much harder to negotiate. So either 2 years and $17M or 5 years front-loaded at $35M.
