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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:12 am
by rockalt
Lancer wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:55 am If he can be better that Raty or Bluegers, it's a draft win already. Hell, if Cootes turns out better than Josh Holden Nathan Smith or Libor Polasek it's a win for this organization.
Oh Josh Holden - really taking me back now to my youthful optimism. He was the first Canucks prospect I was so excited about and so disappointed by! I have such distinct memories of them raving at the draft about how he "fell" to them - a classic trope! Didn't he have some scary wrist cut injury? I believe that was one of the primary excuses for why he didn't pan out. The Canucks really bungled a lot of those high late '90s drafts - yes it was a pretty weak era but Canucks didn't come away with enough (obviously Sedins excepted).

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:21 am
by Nuckertuzzi
And Herter who hertered his hips or something like that.

Omg, these names...gettin' serious ptsd here. The horror,... the horror.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 6:37 am
by JelloPuddingPop
rockalt wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:12 am
Lancer wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:55 am If he can be better that Raty or Bluegers, it's a draft win already. Hell, if Cootes turns out better than Josh Holden Nathan Smith or Libor Polasek it's a win for this organization.
Oh Josh Holden - really taking me back now to my youthful optimism. He was the first Canucks prospect I was so excited about and so disappointed by! I have such distinct memories of them raving at the draft about how he "fell" to them - a classic trope! Didn't he have some scary wrist cut injury? I believe that was one of the primary excuses for why he didn't pan out. The Canucks really bungled a lot of those high late '90s drafts - yes it was a pretty weak era but Canucks didn't come away with enough (obviously Sedins excepted).
I think he is the head coach for HC Davos right now.

Those who can, do. Those who can't...

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 9:08 am
by Aaronp18
rockalt wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:12 am
Lancer wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:55 am If he can be better that Raty or Bluegers, it's a draft win already. Hell, if Cootes turns out better than Josh Holden Nathan Smith or Libor Polasek it's a win for this organization.
Oh Josh Holden - really taking me back now to my youthful optimism. He was the first Canucks prospect I was so excited about and so disappointed by! I have such distinct memories of them raving at the draft about how he "fell" to them - a classic trope! Didn't he have some scary wrist cut injury? I believe that was one of the primary excuses for why he didn't pan out. The Canucks really bungled a lot of those high late '90s drafts - yes it was a pretty weak era but Canucks didn't come away with enough (obviously Sedins excepted).
He completely sliced 10 of the 12 tendons at the base of his hand and required reconstructive surgery. Hence my duct tape gloves to hands comment a bit back there!

Never regained full mobility.

http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/20 ... olden.html

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 11:33 am
by rockalt
Aaronp18 wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 9:08 am He completely sliced 10 of the 12 tendons at the base of his hand and required reconstructive surgery. Hence my duct tape gloves to hands comment a bit back there!

Never regained full mobility.

http://www.greatesthockeylegends.com/20 ... olden.html
Jesus - even worse than I remembered! Maybe not quite at the level of a Berard eye injury but that's more career limiting than I remembered. Thanks for the link. Also good for him coaching in Davos. Thanks for the updates guys.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:48 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Aaronp18 wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 9:08 am
rockalt wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:12 am Oh Josh Holden - really taking me back now to my youthful optimism. He was the first Canucks prospect I was so excited about and so disappointed by! I have such distinct memories of them raving at the draft about how he "fell" to them - a classic trope! Didn't he have some scary wrist cut injury? I believe that was one of the primary excuses for why he didn't pan out. The Canucks really bungled a lot of those high late '90s drafts - yes it was a pretty weak era but Canucks didn't come away with enough (obviously Sedins excepted).
He completely sliced 10 of the 12 tendons at the base of his hand and required reconstructive surgery. Hence my duct tape gloves to hands comment a bit back there!

Never regained full mobility.
Nuckertuzzi wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:21 am And Herter who hertered his hips or something like that.

Omg, these names...gettin' serious ptsd here. The horror,... the horror.
As long as we feel like exploring this element of Canuck luck, recall that Cody "Silent D" Hodgson first injured his back in training, missing a season, then he ultimately turned out to have a rare metabolic disorder that limited his hockey potential.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cody_Hodgson

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:58 pm
by donlever
JJ Daigneault

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 2:02 pm
by Aaronp18
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 2:53 pm
by Nuckertuzzi
Can ice and all star team of 1st round never-was'ers. If using 400 NHL games as benchmark (majority under 100)...


N.Jensen - J.Holden - J.Virtanen

N.Smith - C.Hodgson - D.Woodley

S.Antoski - P.White - A.Stojanov

J.Schroeder - L.Polasek - J.Gillis

H.Shinkaruk - B.Gaunce - R.Blight



O.Joulevi - B.Ference

M.Wilson - J.Herter



Hey hey, no goalies!



Omitted:
Cootes, Willander, Lekkerimaki, Podkolzin,...too recent to know.
L.Bourdon for obvious reasons (he would've been a beauty).

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:15 pm
by Lancer
rockalt wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:12 am
Lancer wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2026 8:55 am If he can be better that Raty or Bluegers, it's a draft win already. Hell, if Cootes turns out better than Josh Holden Nathan Smith or Libor Polasek it's a win for this organization.
Oh Josh Holden - really taking me back now to my youthful optimism. He was the first Canucks prospect I was so excited about and so disappointed by! I have such distinct memories of them raving at the draft about how he "fell" to them - a classic trope! Didn't he have some scary wrist cut injury? I believe that was one of the primary excuses for why he didn't pan out. The Canucks really bungled a lot of those high late '90s drafts - yes it was a pretty weak era but Canucks didn't come away with enough (obviously Sedins excepted).
Oh, the heady days of Holden and Komarniski setting our hearts a-flutter when they were both named to the WJHC squad in 98?? Oh where are they now??? :lol:

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:25 pm
by Lancer
Nuckertuzzi wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 2:53 pm Can ice and all star team of 1st round never-was'ers. If using 400 NHL games as benchmark (majority under 100)...

N.Jensen - J.Holden - J.Virtanen
N.Smith - C.Hodgson - D.Woodley
S.Antoski - P.White - A.Stojanov
J.Schroeder - L.Polasek - J.Gillis
H.Shinkaruk - B.Gaunce - R.Blight

O.Joulevi - B.Ference
M.Wilson - J.Herter

Hey hey, no goalies!

Omitted:
Cootes, Willander, Lekkerimaki, Podkolzin,...too recent to know.
L.Bourdon for obvious reasons (he would've been a beauty).
My God, but that’s demoralizing. Like who has done worse than that over the same period???

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 3:45 pm
by Carl Yagro
^ Hey, there you go. That's some positive shit for the current regime.

:D

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:14 pm
by Lancer
A bar so low it couldn’t trip a toddler.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:21 pm
by Carl Yagro
Hey, c'mon now, we gotta keep it low for the geriatric and his butler so they can perform the hybrid rebuild.

Re: Canucks Young Guns

Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2026 4:28 pm
by Topper
donlever wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2026 1:58 pm JJ Daigneault
I read something many years ago, a Quebec born vet on the roster at the time, possibly Brodeur, had terrible practice habits and was a bad influence on the likes of the young Quebecers JJ and Mike Small.