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Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:46 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Picker of Cherries wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:30 pm
Nice to hear John Garrett doing the WInnipeg game. So much better than anyone the Canucks have used for colour. If he isn’t retiring they should do whatever it takes to get him back on the Canuck’s broadcast, including replacing Shorty if the problem is between those two?
Shorthouse and Garrett are extremely close. I love Cheech but you wouldn't goon a top PBP guy to bring back Uncle Remus. Ray Ferarro will eventually be here full time.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:10 am
by UWSaint
Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 8:32 pm
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:50 am
Mats Sundin was an astute signing. If he would have been here for camp instead of halfway through the season he may have pushed that team over the top. 2008/09 was such an up and down season.
Have they had a better top 6 since? I subscribe to a top 9 but the skill in the top 6 hasn't been matched since that season.,
Sedin Sedin Biter
Demitra Frankenswede Kesler
Raymond Wellwood Bernier
Pyatt Johnson Hansen
Glass Rypien Hordichuk
Ohlund Salo
Mitchell Bieksa
Edler O'brien
Davison
Luongo
Raycroft
Deep, tough team. Reminds me a bit of the 94 group.
Yah, that 08/09 team deserved a better fate. There was a big drop off after the top 6 though. AV maybe could have moved a couple guys around to spread out the depth/talent. That D core was pretty solid as well, but as much as I liked SOB, he may have been a weak link.
I think the depth was decent for a cap era team.
That team was strange. Very disappointing until the All Star break, IIRC, and then they absolutely took off. It was a bit after Sundin joined the team, but the turnaround seemed to have a less to do with Sundin's play than the elevated play from the rest of the group. And I suppose that could have been, in part, because it was more difficult to load up on the first line.
While the WCE era was over, the playoff fragility remained. My recollection is that they were outplaying the Blackhawks, up 2-1 in the series and then gave up a late goal to allow Game 4 to go into overtime (which the Blackhawks won). They were out of sorts in the two games that followed -- less falling into a shell and more like too much hero hockey leading to blown coverages and prime scoring chances against, with often reliable players like Mitchell making some terrible plays and Loungo not coming up with the big save.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:47 pm
by Meds
UWSaint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:10 am
I think the depth was decent for a cap era team.
That team was strange. Very disappointing until the All Star break, IIRC, and then they absolutely took off. It was a bit after Sundin joined the team, but the turnaround seemed to have a less to do with Sundin's play than the elevated play from the rest of the group. And I suppose that could have been, in part, because it was more difficult to load up on the first line.
You'll have to forgive me UW, I can't tell by your wording if you are attributing the elevated play from the rest of the group to Sundin's leadership and effect when he joined the team, or if they are exclusive statements within the same sentence.
While Sundin's play was nothing spectacular in and of itself, if memory serves correctly, Kesler commented that Sundin was instrumental in his development as a player.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:20 pm
by UWSaint
Mëds wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:47 pm
UWSaint wrote: ↑Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:10 am
I think the depth was decent for a cap era team.
That team was strange. Very disappointing until the All Star break, IIRC, and then they absolutely took off. It was a bit after Sundin joined the team, but the turnaround seemed to have a less to do with Sundin's play than the elevated play from the rest of the group. And I suppose that could have been, in part, because it was more difficult to load up on the first line.
You'll have to forgive me UW, I can't tell by your wording if you are attributing the elevated play from the rest of the group to Sundin's leadership and effect when he joined the team, or if they are exclusive statements within the same sentence.
While Sundin's play was nothing spectacular in and of itself, if memory serves correctly, Kesler commented that Sundin was instrumental in his development as a player.
I was thinking that there this one one of those things where correlation didn't mean causation, but I wasn't even considering leadership when I wrote it. That could be right. It was a young group, and Sundin was a true heavyweight. Both mythically and corporeally (by the time he got to Vancouver....)
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:55 pm
by donlever
At minimum half the reason Gillis signed him imo.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:31 am
by theman
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:37 am
by donlever
Hey Meds5th.
Told ya!!!!
leverAI
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:47 am
by Megaterio Llamas
You think Courtnall is on the phone with Mr Aquilini right now?
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:52 am
by theman
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:47 am
You think Courtnall is on the phone with Mr Aquilini right now?
Hopefully it is to tell him to do that proposed trade we have been mulling about on here:
F Petey + Willy for Barzal and Dobson
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:10 pm
by Meds
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:37 am
Hey Meds5th.
Told ya!!!!
leverAI
Hahahahahaha!
Saw the headline and knew this was coming.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:38 pm
by Carl Yagro
Holy, leverAI is able to give answers based on future events and not just from scraped existing data... that's some real quantum computing shit.
> leverAI, give me the winning lottery numbers.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:03 pm
by donlever
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Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:07 pm
by Meds
LeverAI is advanced intelligence it seems…..knowing ahead of time.
I feel like that’s probably a better option than artificial.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:23 pm
by Carl Yagro
donlever wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:03 pm
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Hmmm... I think the 11 or so CC members who are still left should chip in for the remaining draws in 2025.
We prolly have better odds of winning than our beloved team... and we could all be retired up into the rafters too. Eventually.
Re: Around the League 24-25
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:27 am
by Blob Mckenzie
Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:47 am
You think Courtnall is on the phone with Mr Aquilini right now?
I hope he converses with the owners.
I still see Henrik Sedin running this team in the next few years.