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Per wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:37 am OK, so here are the 89 signatories to that op-ed in the Washington Post:

LIST

So, at least 22 generals.....

So 22 out of 1000... sounds about right.

Still not sure if you spoke properly in saying:

"(there is) a long line of experienced generals being appalled by Trump wanting to use the military against American civilians."

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:16 am Black folks are pissed at this photo op

Lol, was it the African scarves or... ?

A record has now been set for the most funerals for a 6-time felon in the history of America.

Topper wrote: ↑Mon Jun 08, 2020 1:16 pm de-funding the police appears to fall in the "Careful What You Ask For" column.

Not sure if de-funding is the way to go, but there is definitely something gone wrong in how the US police work...



If you look at the number of police killings per 10 million inhabitants, the US at 46.6 is roughly on par with Iraq (45.1) and Nigeria (44.0), worse than Colombia (34.1), Mexico (30.0) and Pakistan (25.2) and not even in the same ballpark as European nations like France (3.8), Germany (1.3) or the UK (0.5) or Asian nations like Japan (0.2) or India (1.0).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... by_country

2013 was a bad year for Iceland. Their police actually shot and killed someone. But that is the only time that has happened. Ever. And that in a country where the laws actually up till just a few years ago contained a statute that said Basques could be shot at sight without facing any legal consequences....!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldn ... sight.html

^ Is that because they're dealing with so many armed empowered folk?

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:37 pm

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 9:16 am Black folks are pissed at this photo op

Lol, was it the African scarves or... ?

A record has now been set for the most funerals for a 6-time felon in the history of America.

There is a clip somewhere of when they all stood after the photo, Nancy was flailing about until someone came to help her stand. Drunk? Old and crippled? Two heart beats away from Mrs President.

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:10 pm There is a clip somewhere of when they all stood after the photo, Nancy was flailing about until someone came to help her stand. Drunk? Old and crippled? Two heart beats away from Mrs President.

Politicians should be forced to retire at 70.

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:10 pm There is a clip somewhere of when they all stood after the photo, Nancy was flailing about until someone came to help her stand. Drunk? Old and crippled? Two heart beats away from Mrs President.

How drunk to you have to be to not realize virtue signalling and cultural appropriation doesn't mix?

Chuck looks like he's laughing

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm ^ Is that because they're dealing with so many armed empowered folk?

Somewhere i cant find noe theres a stat that says black people in the united states facing arrest are far more likely to pull out a gun and shoot at cops than the other races. Its disappeared now but it was touted as a legitimate reason for all these police shootings of young black males

Topper wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 1:51 pm Chuck looks like he's laughing

It's like I said about Trudeau yesterday.

They're protesting themselves.

This was a protest against "systemic racism".

And whose fault is all this supposed systemic racism?

It's the fault of the lawmakers.

The Dems in Congress are lawmakers.

They're protesting themselves... and doing a shit job of it!

Trudeau with the blackface, these idiots with the African scarves, lol...

Per wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:37 am Then you have some more listed in an article on CNN:

Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis, Former Secretary of Defense under Trump
"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people -- does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us. We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society."

Marine Corps. Gen. John Kelly, Former Chief of Staff to Trump, Former commander of US Southern Command under Obama
"I would've argued against it, recommended against it," Kelly said of Trump's photo-op. "I would argue that the end result of that was predictable."
"I think we need to look harder at who we elect. I think we should look at people that are running for office and put them through the filter: What is their character like? What are their ethics?"

Marine Corps Gen. John Allen, Former commander of US forces in Afghanistan
"Donald Trump isn't religious, has no need of religion, and doesn't care about the devout, except insofar as they serve his political needs...To even the casual observer, Monday was awful for the United States and its democracy. The president's speech was calculated to project his abject and arbitrary power, but he failed to project any of the higher emotions or leadership desperately needed in every quarter of this nation during this dire moment."

Navy Adm. Mike Mullen, Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"It sickened me yesterday to see security personnel—including members of the National Guard—forcibly and violently clear a path through Lafayette Square to accommodate the president's visit outside St. John's Church. I have to date been reticent to speak out on issues surrounding President Trump's leadership, but we are at an inflection point, and the events of the past few weeks have made it impossible to remain silent. Whatever Trump's goal in conducting his visit, he laid bare his disdain for the rights of peaceful protest in this country, gave succor to the leaders of other countries who take comfort in our domestic strife, and risked further politicizing the men and women of our armed forces. There was little good in the stunt."

Air Force Gen. Richard Myers, Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"The first thing was just absolute sadness that people aren't allowed to protest and that, as I understand it, that was a peaceful protest that was disturbed by force, and that's not right. That should not happen in America. And so I was sad. I mean, we should all shed tears over that, that particular act. ...I'm glad I don't have to advise this President. I'm sure the senior military leadership is finding it really difficult these days to provide good, sound military advice."

Army Gen. Martin Dempsey, Former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
"The idea that the President would take charge of the situation using the military was troubling to me."

William Perry, Former Defense Secretary
"I am outraged at the deplorable behavior of our President and Defense Secretary Esper, threatening to use American military forces to suppress peaceful demonstrators exercising their constitutional rights. This is a deeply shameful moment for our nation."

Navy Adm. William McRaven, Former commander of US Special Operations Command
"You're not going to use, whether it's the military, or the National Guard, or law enforcement, to clear peaceful American citizens for the President of the United States to do a photo op. There is nothing morally right about that."

Navy Adm. James Stavridis, Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO
"Our active duty military must remain above the fray of domestic politics, and the best way to do that is to keep that force focused on its rightful mission outside the United States. Our senior active duty military leaders must make that case forcefully and directly to national leadership, speaking truth to power in uncomfortable ways. They must do this at the risk of their career. I hope they will do so, and not allow the military to be dragged into the maelstrom that is ahead of us, and which will likely only accelerate between now and November. If they do not stand and deliver on this vital core value, I fear for the soul of our military and all of the attendant consequences."

Army Gen. Raymond A. "Tony" Thomas, Former commander of US Special Operations Command
On Esper's use of the term "battlespace" when discussing quelling violence on the streets amid civil unrest: "The 'battle space' of America??? Not what America needs to hear...ever, unless we are invaded by an adversary or experience a constitutional failure...ie a Civil War..."

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/05/poli ... index.html

So, that's another nine generals and another defense secretary...

FROM YOUR ARTICLE:

"A number of retired four-star generals and admirals denounced Trump's threat to use the US active military to quell nationwide protests over the death of George Floyd, an unarmed black man, at the hands of Minneapolis police.

Many of these military leaders have been critical of the President in the past."
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Ahhh, but Lord Trump did not ever suggest using "active duty troops"!

That was a fake news piece by CNN citing the Tooth Fairy as the source. Proof:

https://twitter.com/Alyssafarah/status/ ... 3438679049

So CNN creates a fake news story, then gets some ex-generals who "have been critical of the President in the past"

... to give their opinion of this (fake) breaking news.

See, this is the depths of insidiousness to which the leftist media of today has sunk.

THAT is the kind of crap you're running with these days Per...



The article also repeats another disproved fake-news story.

Namely, the tall tale about "NG dispersing peaceful protesters so Trump could pose at the church".

I posted last week about how the official police report stated those "peaceful protesters"

... were dispersed because they attacked the police.

So yeah, that's a 2-for-1 fake news story right there.

Well 3-for-1 really, counting those generals' response to the bullshit.

By now these generals know they were responding to a lie.

I wonder how much longer they're going to allow themselves to be used as useful idiots.

(despite their established "critical of the Prez" Trump Derangement Syndrome)

The Brown Wizard wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:25 pm

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 12:54 pm ^ Is that because they're dealing with so many armed empowered folk?

Somewhere i cant find noe theres a stat that says black people in the united states facing arrest are far more likely to pull out a gun and shoot at cops than the other races. Its disappeared now but it was touted as a legitimate reason for all these police shootings of young black males

Maybe the police just need better glasses?

I mean, they've shot people getting their wallet out to produce a driver's license, they've shot people holding cell phones, they've shot a 12-yo with a toy gun in a playground.... Now they shot some Latino in California, who was on his knees with his hands in the air, because the policeman thought he saw a gun in his pocket... never mind 2nd amendment right... that turned out to be a hammer.

Or they could just do like in Britain and let the police patrol their districts with just a nightstick instead of a gun.
Might help save some lives.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 4:32 pm
Ahhh, but Lord Trump did not ever suggest using "active duty troops"!

That was a fake news piece by CNN citing the Tooth Fairy as the source. Proof:

https://twitter.com/Alyssafarah/status/ ... 3438679049

What Trump and his minions tend to forget though is that a lot of the shit he spews and tweets is available for all to see.

So, straight from the horse’s (ass’s?) mouth:



He first talks about deploying the national guard, then at roughly 1.01:

”If a city or state refuses to take the actions that are necessary to defend the life and property of their residents, then I will deploy the United States’ military and quickly solve the problem for them.”