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5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 11:40 am What else can you expect from a bunch of reprobates ?

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:31 am I think originally he trained in Timra but the past 2 had switched to what was referred to (or inferred to) as an inferior, more laid back program somewhere in Stockholm.

Is it just me or does 11.6 need to stay here to train if he's going to be committed. Something about being out of sight in Sweden seems wrong.

Until he trains in such a manner that those writing the cheque, which includes us btw, yes, this we can agree on.

Still not sure, if the alleged story is true, but, if so, why he wouldn't jump on his captains offer to join him is odd. If only for a 2 week span.

Seems a great way to both enhance off season work AND quiet the masses.

...and to build comraderie which this group apparently needs.

donlever wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 9:29 am

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 6:26 am Not everyone comes out of the gate a Crosby or a MacKinnon.

As a matter of fact it is well discussed that Nate flipped a switch early in his career with respect to diet, exercise and preparation.

Look at him, he's turned himself into a physical beast.

This here is a fantastic article on just that.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nat ... %20partner.

One of the things about MacKinnon that stands out, and this is a product of both natural genetics as well as dedicated development of those genes.....the below is a snippet of the article about why MacKinnon is special (the entire thing is worth the 5-10 minute read though imho).

O’Brien always cites came during a running drill up a steep incline, an anaerobic test that leaves lower bodies awash in lactic acid and has a direct carry-over to the game’s fundamental skill. “It puts you in a biomechanical position very much like skating,” O’Brien says. In one session, MacKinnon ran 14.9 seconds. The second-best time was 15.9; others finished in the 17-second range. By itself, pretty remarkable, but that was only the start.

The rest of the field started to tail off as the reps went on. By the fifth or sixth trip, the other campers were dropping a second or more behind their best times. MacKinnon, though, didn’t fade — he kept clocking 14.9, again and again, like clockwork. “Only on the last rep was there any change and it was 15 flat or maybe another tenth, barely anything at all,” O’Brien says. “That hill-running drill, it just shouldn’t work out that way. If your muscle composition is built for power you should fatigue more rapidly than the average and if your composition is for endurance, you shouldn’t be able to explode as well.”

Given the choice of Column A or Column B, somehow MacKinnon alone can order up both.

Nate has a very special gift, but the key takeaway is the work he put in to be consistent at the pro level.

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 11:40 am What else can you expect from a bunch of reprobates ?

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:31 am I think originally he trained in Timra but the past 2 had switched to what was referred to (or inferred to) as an inferior, more laid back program somewhere in Stockholm.

Is it just me or does 11.6 need to stay here to train if he's going to be committed. Something about being out of sight in Sweden seems wrong.

Not just you. Rutherford and Allvin said the same in their year end scrum.

...and it was intimated by Tocchet.

...and agreed to by Hughes with the offer to train with him.

donlever wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 11:58 am

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 11:40 am What else can you expect from a bunch of reprobates ?

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 10:31 am I think originally he trained in Timra but the past 2 had switched to what was referred to (or inferred to) as an inferior, more laid back program somewhere in Stockholm.

Is it just me or does 11.6 need to stay here to train if he's going to be committed. Something about being out of sight in Sweden seems wrong.

Until he trains in such a manner that those writing the cheque, which includes us btw, yes, this we can agree on.

Still not sure, if the alleged story is true, but, if so, why he wouldn't jump on his captains offer to join him is odd. If only for a 2 week span.

Seems a great way to both enhance off season work AND quiet the masses.

...and to build comraderie which this group apparently needs.

Where did this supposed "offer" come from? As i recall, the end of season interviews included Quinn proclaiming Petey knows what he needs to do and has his own training plans.

Hughes old man runs a high performance training camp in Michigan every summer.

This is where the young Yankee group trains together that I listed names of earlier.

At year end meetings it was broadcast that Quinn had invited some teammates to join him there to which someone had reportedly declined.

I can't for the life of me recall where I heard or read it, one of the post season scrums maybe, not sure.

All the love (deserved) he's getting around here for his leadership skills (solid) his knowledge of the game (high) and his desire to win (massive) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know he would have asked EP.

So talk was it was him who deferred..

Unproven.

Thus my "alleged" caveat....

donlever wrote: ↑Sat May 03, 2025 5:29 pm

All the love (deserved) he's getting around here for his leadership skills (solid) his knowledge of the game (high) and his desire to win (massive) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know he would have asked EP.

So talk was it was him who deferef

Unless the love is gone

Key moments that have shaped the glory of the last decade with this pathetic organization. What else am I missing?

2014 - Gillis proposes a rebuild, turned down and fired. He was right

2014 - Drafting Virtanen

2015 - trade Forsling

2016 - Trade for Gudbranson

2016 - Drafting Juolevi

2016 - signing Loui Eriksson

2016 - walking Hamhius to UFA’s door

2018 - Linden pushes for patience, build slowly, methodically, turned down and fired he was right.

2018 - signed Beagle

2019 - draft Podkolzin at 10th OA

2020 - don’t resign Toffoli

2020 - don’t resign Tanev

2021 - trade 1st rd pick, Beagle, Roussel for OEL, Garland

2022 - Sign/extend Miller, trade Horvat shortly after (2023). The opposite would’ve been the wiser especially considering Millers trade value was at its highest peak then.

2023 - What’s wrong with Pettersson?

Trading Forsling and the OEL acquisition.

Devastating moves

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 9:46 am Trading Forsling and the OEL acquisition.

Devastating moves

The best part of those two is that both players landed in Florida and won a Cup together.

I think Blobbee may be on to something regarding the Benning Era

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:11 pm I think Blobbee may be on to something regarding the Benning Era

Of course he is but it's waaay funnier to watch old bloballs trip those very balls whenever his name comes up

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:11 pm I think Blobbee may be on to something regarding the Benning Era

It has always looked that way to me.

But I share your skepticism about the degree of improvement represented by the current group. And I think we agree on the common denominator limiting performance.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:32 pm

Chef Boi RD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 06, 2025 12:11 pm I think Blobbee may be on to something regarding the Benning Era

Of course he is but it's waaay funnier to watch old bloballs trip those very balls whenever his name comes up

You bastards drove poor Blobby completely mad with all that "genius" shit.

Let’s remember something important here, the 6 years of putrid drafting by the Gillis regime contributed to this disastrous 15 year run in a large way.