2025 Trade Deadline

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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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donlever wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:54 pm I saw somewhere a 1st and Kotkaniemi for Boeser and a prospect.

Depends who the prospect was.
What I read was either/or.

A 1st and Kotkaniemi (dump) for Boeser.

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A 1st for Boeser and a prospect.

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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:51 pm Sure sounds like the Canucks were somewhat close in making Boeser a Hurricane but not for Dallas taking so long to get their deal done. Ran out of time to negotiate a deal both teams could live with. Canucks did not really want the first, they needed roster player(s) back, particularly a 2nd line centre. Sounds like Carolina was willing to part with a 1st but a roster player would require Canucks giving up a grade A prospect. Not time to negotiate once the Dallas deal was finalized. No wonder Allvin looked so lost. You would think that they would have negated a deal ahead of time???? So they could pull the trigger once the Dallas deal was done. No one wanted Boeser for a roster player. Canucks needed more than a pick to keep the team competitive.

Still say they should have grabbed the first if it was there.
Or "Wan out of time" as Blob calls it.

So Brock knows for certain he's not wanted here.

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I’ll be interested to see what Brock gets if he goes to UFA.
Does his one 40 goal season weigh more than worst plus/minus on the team.
Does he get 7x8m from some desperate GM? Or is the league realizing the leagues speed is passing him by?
I have no idea what he will command, but I think I’ll be fine that the Canucks didn’t pay it (if they don’t).
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Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:58 pm
donlever wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:54 pm I saw somewhere a 1st and Kotkaniemi for Boeser and a prospect.

Depends who the prospect was.
What I read was either/or.

A 1st and Kotkaniemi (dump) for Boeser.

OR

A 1st for Boeser and a prospect.

Rumours...
Everything I read was whatever Canucks were getting it involved one of Willander, Lekkermaki or Dpetey.
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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:13 pm Everything I read was whatever Canucks were getting it involved one of Willander, Lekkermaki or Dpetey.
:shock:

Yeah well fuck that shit.
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I would have gone Boeser straight up for a 1st or Kokameni. It didn’t have to be a complicated deal just get an asset for him.
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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Strangelove wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:15 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 7:13 pm Everything I read was whatever Canucks were getting it involved one of Willander, Lekkermaki or Dpetey.
:shock:

Yeah well fuck that shit.
Stupid ask.

Wasn't even a conversation at that point.
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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Brock for a 1st would be a no-brainer and a win. Brock for a 2nd would've been acceptable. At the very worst you should be able to get a 2nd and a 3rd (likely more) for both Brock and Pius. To come out of the deadline with nothing is absolutely criminal.

I'm still trying to understand the logic of holding on to a couple of forwards for a playoff drive when our offence is already among the worst in the league with them in it. It's obvious we need to overhaul our forward group this summer and onus needs to be injecting more speed. We're a bunch of slugs up front and while I like both Brock and Pius individually, they're both too slow to move forward with. So re-signing them to salvage this deadline debacle would be the wrong play imo. Let them walk and use their cap elsewhere. It's an absolute shame we can't go into the summer with a few extra picks on hand as valuable chips to leverage, or even god forbid use them in the draft to improve our dwindling prospect pool. It's like someone handing you some ammo for a gunfight and you say "nah, we're good."

While management made a bunch of blunders this year (mostly from unnecessarily airing grievances openly), I maintain blame goes directly to the mandate from above. The one thing they never fail at is pissing away assets.
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I thought Rutherford was brought in to keep Aqualini in check? Given full autonomy? No? Didn’t Francesco give him his blessings to do as he damn well pleases? A true hockey man with copious amounts of experience in running champions organizations?

At the end of the day this falls on management. They are there to advise ownership on the best course of action.

Drain the swamp, we have never witnessed this level of a dismantling of a good thing in the entire history of the organization, I’m beside myself! And done in such short order.
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Brock will walk and yet there are no cries of

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I suspect that management had a deal for another player, but it was contingent on the 1st-round pick they would have received from the Boeser trade - like the MP3 deal. Carolina left their trade too late, which would have made Allvin’s other potential impossible to slide under the deadline. In that case, Boeser’s trade return was always going to be used as currency to get someone else.

I wager we’ll never know for sure, and even then it’s just a theory.

But yeah, if Boeser wasn’t feeling the love before you can imagine how he feels now.

Just play out the schedule. Shut down Hughes, Petey and Demko for the rest of the season and call up the kids for auditions for next year. Maybe get a pick in the low- to mid-teens. If you don’t have the confidence that the team can compete in the conference finals - and when has this team ever showed that they could this year - then why slog at all for the playoffs just to see your players get their heads kicked-in?? Yeah, Fredo wants his playoff gate revenue, but that will peter out soon enough if all they do is one-and-done appearances.
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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:47 am I thought Rutherford was brought in to keep Aqualini in check? Given full autonomy? No? Didn’t Francesco give him his blessings to do as he damn well pleases? A true hockey man with copious amounts of experience in running champions organizations?

At the end of the day this falls on management. They are there to advise ownership on the best course of action.


You're right, it was management who ultimately fumbled this deadline. But it's the mandate that caused it. If they weren't so hellbent on managing only for the present, they come out of it with some assets to show at the very least.


The fact that a 70+ year old was the guy chosen by Franco to move this team forward should tell you everything you need to know. The first thing uttered from JR at his first presser, when he said I didn't come here for a rebuild, should tell you everything you need to know.

Franco ditching Trev's call for a strip-down rebuild in favour of Jimbo telling him he could turn it around in two years...etc., etc....

The pattern of Franco hires gives you a pretty clear indication of the mandate and directive from above.

Rutherford and co may have some autonomy but doubtful full, and only reason it was given is because they share the same mandate. I could just see how the interview went...
JR: My managing philosophy is to do everything possible to get in the playoffs every year. I can promise this for you, but I need full autonomy.
FA: Hired!

It's very simple folks. We gotta stop pointing the finger at management for all these fuck-ups. They don't happen if the guy up top had some vision beyond $ from 2 home playoff games.
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Re: 2025 Trade Deadline

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Chef Boi RD wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 6:47 am I’m beside myself!
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