Canucks News N Notes 25-26

[Nuckertuzzi]

2nd round darts may never have flights

Unless you're a team not named Canucks. Lot of phenomenal 2nd round finds out there.

The last one we scored on was Demko if not mistaken. Otherwise pretty bleak history mostly because we keep trading our darts away.

[Topper]

The outliers are what keep people buying lotto tickets at the gas station

[Madcombinepilot]

I would keep Hronek and Myers as the vets on the blueline.

Garland and Brock up front.

Jettison the rest.

If your gonna change the culture, the Chaos Giraffe and longest tenured Canuck have to go.

The sooner the better.

You can't do that. You need established vets that can lead and show young players how to put in the work. Replacing the in free agency isn't a safe bet because you will be paying through the nose and we will end up with what we ended up with under Benning.

The old adage: Those who can't do teach.

It's true. Players like Myers and Boeser have the know-how to teach, even if they lack the capability to do at times.

Boeser probably just doesn't bring a return in trade that makes sense (I know, I sound like Gillis there lol). If he can morph into a Tyler Toffoli, well that's a good thing for a team of young up and comers.

You absolutley can do that.

How many veterans are you saying the team needs?

I think you need a couple of tenured vets in the top-12 and a couple in the top-6.

By tenured I mean with the team. Those vets are usually already on existing contracts, or can be retained on existing deals.

Boeser's contract will not seem terrible in 2 year's time if he morphs into a Toffoli alongside a couple of other young wingers. Also not opposed to it being DeBrusk instead of Brock.

Garland is certainly a play driver of sorts, and his contract will also age well, for the first half at least.

I can see Myers sticking for another 2-3 years on a reasonable deal, and Hronek is already inked long term on a similarly good contract.

Finding guys like that in free agency would cost more, and their commitment to the local team and fans would not be the same.

I think you add a couple of other vets via free agency. A Jay Beagle-type (just don't pay so much for so long), those guys have legendary reputations for professionalism, work ethic, commitment to fitness, preparation, and dedication to their craft.

The following roster has a few of presumptions for next year.....

1. Two Peteys are dealt.
2. Hoglander is dealt
3. We draft McKenna
4. One of Demko or Lankinen are moved
5. DeBrusk or Boeser are traded.....you move whichever one brings the best return.

McKenna - Rossi - Boeser/DeBrusk
Ohgren - Vet - Garland
DOC - Chytil - Karlsson
UFA - Sasson - UFA


Buium - Hronek
Vet - Willander
DPetey - Myers

Demko/Lankinen
Backup

People may raise an eyebrow at Rossi as the 1C.....well he will probably be our most talented pivot once EP40 is moved. Rossi excelled in Minnesota when paired with a speedy, smart winger.....enter McKenna. I also don't think we get a better C than him back in that trade, but we likely can get a 2C that is better than Chytil. Chytil also has some two-way chops, and if he stays healthy is hopefully replaced by Cootes when the former's contract runs its course after next season.

Ohgren is going to move up the depth chart during a rebuild. His efforts have been outstanding, and he's a fucking beast. There's a poor man's Landeskog or speedy Holmstrom in there I think. That style of player could be a great compliment to Garland's whirling, wheeling, dealing, and if you get a decent enough pivot between them, you might be surprised.

Karlsson is the Swedish Alex Burrows. I can see him climbing the lineup over the next two seasons and possibly ending up in the top-6 with the right chemistry.

I've seen enough of M-Pete to know I'd rather turn that page if he's willing to move on. I don't see a guy that screams mentor, I don't see a guy with anything more than #6 stick and puck skills, I don't see an above average PK'er, and there's no offense there what-so-ever. Even during a rebuild $5.5M (see I got it right this time JPP) is too much to stash on the bottom pairing when the same can be had for $3M.

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

[Meds]

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

Which part was semantics?

[Madcombinepilot]

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

Which part was semantics?

Your entire post. I was saying flush everyone except a couple vets, you said flush everyone except a couple different vets.
We are both looking at 4-5 years from now.

[Meds]

2nd round darts may never have flights

Well, Hoglander is currently a 2nd round dart that is headed for the floor. Turning him into a new 2nd round dart at least gives the team a mulligan of sorts.

[Meds]

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

Which part was semantics?

Your entire post. I was saying flush everyone except a couple vets, you said flush everyone except a couple different vets.
We are both looking at 4-5 years from now.

No. I said keep certain vets and you said that the guys I wanted to keep needed to go to change the culture.

Brock may be interchangeable with DeBrusk, but Garland, Myers, and Hronek, are guys that will provide a stronger culture than any of the existing ones.

[Madcombinepilot]

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

Which part was semantics?

Your entire post. I was saying flush everyone except a couple vets, you said flush everyone except a couple different vets.
We are both looking at 4-5 years from now.

No. I said keep certain vets and you said that the guys I wanted to keep needed to go to change the culture.

Brock may be interchangeable with DeBrusk, but Garland, Myers, and Hronek, are guys that will provide a stronger culture than any of the existing ones.

I agree with Garland and Hronek and the Brock/Debrusk flips.. but Myers is too old.

And where will Myers be in 2031?

[donlever]

Kelowna.

Golfing with ap & Schenn.

[Madcombinepilot]

Kelowna.

Golfing with ap & Schenn.

lol. yup.

[Meds]

Semantics.

I want to see the team dump Myers.
You want to see the team dump their best center.

Which part was semantics?

Your entire post. I was saying flush everyone except a couple vets, you said flush everyone except a couple different vets.
We are both looking at 4-5 years from now.

No. I said keep certain vets and you said that the guys I wanted to keep needed to go to change the culture.

Brock may be interchangeable with DeBrusk, but Garland, Myers, and Hronek, are guys that will provide a stronger culture than any of the existing ones.

I agree with Garland and Hronek and the Brock/Debrusk flips.. but Myers is too old.

And where will Myers be in 2031?

None of those guys have to be here for the entire rebuild. In fact, the only one that I actually see remaining and being part of the competitive window would be Hronek and Boeser. The latter only providing he can morph into a Toffoli-type. And both of them will be 34-35 at that point.

Of the 4 of them, Myers is the guy I think is the most important to the next 2 years. He's the elder statesman of the room, the guy who can get in front of the media with composure, and puts in the work both on and off the ice. And he's been with the team longer than anyone besides Boeser. Say what you might about a team's success record, you do need one or two guys with local tenure to instill loyalty in the next generation.

Boeser could be that guy, but he just seems to have too much of that surf-side-six thing going on, and sometimes seems as if he'd prefer to go elsewhere. If rumors are true that other locales offered him more, and he still stayed, that says something though too. Hard one that.

[Picker of Cherries]

Myers is on the last year of his contract next season with 12 team no trade protection. He is a minus 22 - second worst on the team after Brock. Compared to the other veteran D (Meaty -5 and Hronek 0) he’s not doing well and has no growth upside. He is blocking Mancini from getting NHL experience. At 35 they should not be resigning him as part of the rebuild, so he should be trade bait. If he doesn’t want to waive and go to a contender before this TDL and play a depth role to try to win a cup somewhere, he should be traded this summer, at the very latest next TDL if he has any value left. Whatever the case, Myers is not part of this rebuild and he’s on the clock, nice guy, but on the clock.

[JelloPuddingPop]

Myers is on the last year of his contract next season with 12 team no trade protection. He is a minus 22 - second worst on the team after Brock. Compared to the other veteran D (Meaty -5 and Hronek 0) he’s not doing well and has no growth upside. He is blocking Mancini from getting NHL experience. At 35 they should not be resigning him as part of the rebuild, so he should be trade bait. If he doesn’t want to waive and go to a contender before this TDL and play a depth role to try to win a cup somewhere, he should be traded this summer, at the very latest next TDL if he has any value left. Whatever the case, Myers is not part of this rebuild and he’s on the clock, nice guy, but on the clock.

This.

[Topper]

Should be enough empty seat to pull this off in the Garage

https://x.com/horrormuseum/status/20138 ... 93092?s=20

[Aaronp18]

Kelowna.

Golfing with ap & Schenn.

I'd imagine he could hit the ball a fair distance, I could use him on my scramble team. I'll hit a fairway for him and he can bomb it 350. We'll keep off the courses with houses!