Just Not ready

[Topper]

The only guy I see doing journalism is doing it on a Provincial scale and he's all us old fucks least favourite failed rock critic.

[donlever]

John Ruskin you mean?

[Topper]

Was Ruskin a rock critic?

Is he now a journalist?

[donlever]

Probably neither.

Just fuckin' about....

[Cousin Strawberry]

Charlie Angus?

Fucking Topper and his riddles lol

[donlever]

...and Harrisons ass is long dead.

[Cornuck]

Vaughn Palmer was the name that popped into my head.

[donlever]

Right....

[5thhorseman]

US automakers are stuck in no man's land between continuing to produce ICE cars and develop new EV models. The classic Innovators Dilemma. US manufacturers are focusing on high margin SUVs and trucks and have abandoned the small car market, which is where Chinese manufacturers are expanding. It's the perfect market for EVs . I believe the US manufacturers' market share is ultimately going to shrink to negligible size and world vehicle production will become dominated by China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma

So I think the Canadian trade deal with China to allow EV imports is a good one. EVs are the future and we should be following up to establish Chinese EV manufacturing in Canada, similar to what we did with US automakers. Battery manufacturing is already moving to Canada instead of the US where anti EV and climate change sentiments rule.

[Meds]

US automakers are stuck in no man's land between continuing to produce ICE cars and develop new EV models. The classic Innovators Dilemma. US manufacturers are focusing on high margin SUVs and trucks and have abandoned the small car market, which is where Chinese manufacturers are expanding. It's the perfect market for EVs . I believe the US manufacturers' market share is ultimately going to shrink to negligible size and world vehicle production will become dominated by China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Innovator%27s_Dilemma

So I think the Canadian trade deal with China to allow EV imports is a good one. EVs are the future and we should be following up to establish Chinese EV manufacturing in Canada, similar to what we did with US automakers. Battery manufacturing is already moving to Canada instead of the US where anti EV and climate change sentiments rule.

The current iteration of EV's is going to have a longer-term environmental impact than the ICE's. The materials and mining required for the batteries is truly an environmental terror when you start looking at it.....we just don't see it because the primary sources for the materials are owned and extracted by countries (like China) that don't give two fucks about the environment or humanitarian conditions.

Unless we can actually get out of the atmosphere and start mining asteroids in space, we're going to have terrestrial problems that are not often discussed right now.

Hydrogen fuel cell is probably the best way right now. Perhaps in the future atomic power if it can be done safely?

[Topper]

The issue with Chinese EV's has nothing to do with EV's and everything to do with National Security.

What is the satellite connectivity, internet end of day data dump? Parts of Englands government workforce is banned from owning them, can not have one within a certain radius of work. What happens when you connect your cell phone for hands free calling and a playlist?

[Per]

Why is what is happening in Iran not front page news?

Isn’t it?!

Sure is here. But I guess we have a pretty big Persian diaspora.
The first wave was left wingers fleeing SAWAK during the shah.
The second wave was the educated upper middle class after the revolution.
The third wave was teenage boys sent to security by their parents during the Iran-Iraq war, as they started sending 14 year olds to the frontline.

The good thing is that pretty much all of them are agnostic/atheist.
Albeit some are Bahaï or Zoroastrian, as those groups have been persecuted under the current regime.

[Per]

The current iteration of EV's is going to have a longer-term environmental impact than the ICE's. The materials and mining required for the batteries is truly an environmental terror when you start looking at it.....we just don't see it because the primary sources for the materials are owned and extracted by countries (like China) that don't give two fucks about the environment or humanitarian conditions.

Unless we can actually get out of the atmosphere and start mining asteroids in space, we're going to have terrestrial problems that are not often discussed right now.

Hydrogen fuel cell is probably the best way right now. Perhaps in the future atomic power if it can be done safely?

It’s not as bad as the oil companies pay to have you believe. It is nowhere near as bad as oil extraction, combined with transportation to refineries, then refineries, then transport from refineries to gas stations and then burnt by an engine that only manages to use 20% of the energy in the fuel to propel the vehicle forward. Diesel is slightly better, it uses up to 40%, but the emissions are deadlier.
In comparison, an EV uses more than 90% of the electricity for propulsion. Very little waste. And in the Nordic countries virtually all electricity is fossil free. It’s mainly hydro, wind and nuclear.

Recent studies show that it takes on average two to three years before an EV has a more environmental impact friendly footprint than an ICE vehicle. The construction of the car is at a greater cost to the environment, but the usage of it is way friendlier then ICE vehicles.
You can already notice that the air quality in European cities is improving as more and more people switch to EVs.

The local buses here in Gävle, where I live, are from BYD. No stinking diesel anymore. And a lot less noise.

[5thhorseman]

What happens when you connect your cell phone for hands free calling and a playlist?

That's an Android Auto or Apple Carplay security issue. The phone uses the car as a display device and allows very specific access to phone features. For example, there's no syncing of all your text messages or emails to the car's infotainment system.

What the car's infotainment system does with its own data is a different story, though that's probably only location data.

[Meds]

What happens when you connect your cell phone for hands free calling and a playlist?

That's an Android Auto or Apple Carplay security issue. The phone uses the car as a display device and allows very specific access to phone features. For example, there's no syncing of all your text messages or emails to the car's infotainment system.

What the car's infotainment system does with its own data is a different story, though that's probably only location data.

Even the location data is dependent on the manufacturer.

Toyota requires a subscription for location and mapping. Otherwise it just uses Google Maps on your phone.

While Toyota (and others) maintain what you say regarding data, there is still a sync and permission that has to be given for CarPlay to work and utilize the display as an extension.

I don’t think Apple or Google will bother with the level of Security that would be required to beat something the Chinese spymasters want in their EVs.