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UWSaint wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:20 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:58 am The Canucks will have to take a considerable contract back to get rid of Petey and I’m okay with that. I just want him gone.
I just don't think that has to be the case. (I mean, quite likely short term to make the cap numbers work, but not as a part of a "sweetner.") All the things you think EP40 did to cause whatever's happened in Vancouver, to an outside team, there are lots of other obvious contributing explanations. He's not the unique poison. And whatever EP40 did to rebuff Hughes invite, guess what? He also came back in better shape and more determined and is in the middle of improving a golf swing and it is starting to pay dividends.

There needs to be one 2 suitors who think that EP40 can fall into this Kopitar-type bucket to drive up that price -- or one, thinking there is another and management not having a hot potato attitude. It is not the player's value to the selling team that controls the price.
Between a rising cap and a very young roster, there is no need to fret over his contract and when you look at how it was structured it can have value in its later years when the cap is estimated to be as high as $120-150 million and some teams will struggle financially to reach the floor....

I think he's a point a game first line centre who can't drive a line and needs to be playing with skilled wingers...

He's been used as a shutdown centre much of the past 2 seasons because of the situation at the centre ice position, with the aquisition of Rossi and the development of Raty and Sasson at the #3 & 4 spot he can assume a more offensive deployment ....

And having Cootes developing at the pace he is could mean what was once a glaring weakness has become a position of depth....

Speaking of Buium, he's listed at 6' and 185 but his brother who is in the Detroit organization is listed at 6'3" and 220 lbs which makes you wonder if there is room to grow for Zeev and/or if the Canucks should take a proactive approach and find a way to aquire his brother?...
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rikster wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 8:29 am
Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 7:58 am The Canucks will have to take a considerable contract back to get rid of Petey and I’m okay with that. I just want him gone.

The one story I find interesting and eye opening is Hughes inviting Petey to come work out with him last off season in Michigan. He declined. Says a lot to me. He’s an enigma plain and simple, a loner, the kind of player you walk on eggshells around. Get rid of him.
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During the offseason before the 2025–26 season, there were reports that Hughes had invited Pettersson and others to join offseason training at his family’s Michigan facility, a place Quinn’s dad runs performance camps. But players including Pettersson often choose their own training routines depending on injuries, personal preference, and what they feel is best for their preparation — and there was no direct reporting stating Pettersson refused or “declined” a specific invite from Hughes
EP, like many Swedes returns home to train in the offseason, I wonder if Hughes would have accepted an invitation to spend his offseason away from family training in Sweden?
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Hear me out, Alex Tuch’s wife is from Vancouver. Tuch is in has last year on his current contract. About to become a UFA this summer. His camp isn't demanding a specific contract publicly, but expects a significant raise from his current $4.75M AAV, with projections and reports suggesting figures around $9 million to $10+ million annually as he enters his prime, fueled by his strong performance (30+ goals, 60+ points) and the rising salary cap, with discussions between him and the Sabres currently paused to focus on the season.

You offer up a deal with Buffalo centering around Pettersson and Tuch with a condition that Tuch has to agree to a new contract around $9 million per. Buffalo’s interest will be piqued as apparently Petey and Dahlin are friends. With Tuch’s wife being a Vancouver gal this is a deal that could work out for both sides.

Tuch is 2 years older than Petey, with Tuchs new contract Petey makes around $2.5 to $3 million more than Tuch. It’s a deal that works for both sides

Or you trade Pettersson for under-performers - Quinn and Byram whose contracts when combined total $10 million. Being that Byram is a left shot d-man ya send M. Pete with E. Pete.

With the new GM in town in Buffalo he’s gonna want to make moves. A splash per say

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Ok. I heard you out.

Are you insane?

$9M for a 30 year old guy who has eclipsed the 70 point mark only once in his career, and whose best days will likely be behind him a couple of years after he signs?
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Well, to remove a wart in the NHL, you need to take back a blemish.

Points-wise, how do you know EP40 ever exceeds 70pts again (in Van)? His best years might already be behind him no matter where he ends up.

This guy is big and tough and if you must offer him a bad contract due to his age, you're not offering 7 years. You should still have a 1st line winger (on this team) for 2-3 years. 2 years older than our guy, but way sturdier.

I like Garland a lot, but his $6M/yr is kicking in next season and he's nowhere near a Tuch.

Dude also suggested Quinn and Byram as an alternative.

As for the training rumours, yes, Hughes tried to downplay it when asked, saying everyone has their own summer regimen and plans. But a camp at the Hughes compound would be weeks and not the entire summer. Given Quit has come back every season with an improved game, who knows why EP said no? But after all the stuff happened and he FINALLY trained this offseason as expected, tells everything about his dedication and professionalism.
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Chef Boi RD wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 9:25 am Hear me out, Alex Tuch’s wife is from Vancouver. Tuch is in has last year on his current contract. About to become a UFA this summer. His camp isn't demanding a specific contract publicly, but expects a significant raise from his current $4.75M AAV, with projections and reports suggesting figures around $9 million to $10+ million annually as he enters his prime, fueled by his strong performance (30+ goals, 60+ points) and the rising salary cap, with discussions between him and the Sabres currently paused to focus on the season.

You offer up a deal with Buffalo centering around Pettersson and Tuch with a condition that Tuch has to agree to a new contract around $9 million per. Buffalo’s interest will be piqued as apparently Petey and Dahlin are friends. With Tuch’s wife being a Vancouver gal this is a deal that could work out for both sides.

Tuch is 2 years older than Petey, with Tuchs new contract Petey makes around $2.5 to $3 million more than Tuch. It’s a deal that works for both sides

Or you trade Pettersson for under-performers - Quinn and Byram whose contracts when combined total $10 million. Being that Byram is a left shot d-man ya send M. Pete with E. Pete.

With the new GM in town in Buffalo he’s gonna want to make moves. A splash per say

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https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/473 ... next-moves

A good article from ESPN. Again, not sure how true or accurate it all is but if close to the truth gives you some insight into what deals were out there. Laughed at the Canucks wanting from Rangers to make it happen. But in any event it does seem Canucks got everything they wanted. A top 6 centre, top 4 LHD, another piece and a 1st.

Also Hughes agent said they didn't really want a trade to NJD because Quinn would knock Luke down in the pecking order of things. Also sounds like contract in the future with NJD also seems to be not a given for the same reasons plus Quinn wants to win. SO Minnesota has a good chance to extend him in July. But also he really likes Detroit and is good friends with Dylan Larkin. So I guess how he fits over the next season will dictate whether he wants to go to FA and sign on with the Wings who seem to be the front runner as far as his choice. He did mention in his presser he liked that Minnesota was closer to Michigan.
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Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:22 am who knows why EP said no?
Planning a wedding maybe?
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Yes, but you still have to train in the summer, no? How much planning does an average groom do for his own wedding?

People have been known to delay their honeymoon too. It's $11.6M/yr, so you really have to prioritize a bit especially after the kind of hockey he played after signing for all that dough.

Hughes could have just said he was getting married so he didn't want to come. Whatever. Totally valid. The point is that he hadn't taken offseason seriously enough in the past until the crap hit the fan.
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Thx HW. That ESPN article was pretty good in its explanation.

Buffalo really needs to make a splash from the new GM for his owner. They've sucked for way too long and are desperate to make changes. There could be interesting deals to be made with them... but definitely not tiny Benson.
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Why would EP waive to Buffalo?
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donlever wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 11:03 am Why would EP waive to Buffalo?
Because Mëds doesn't like him?
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Carl Yagro wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 10:45 am Yes, but you still have to train in the summer, no? How much planning does an average groom do for his own wedding?

People have been known to delay their honeymoon too. It's $11.6M/yr, so you really have to prioritize a bit especially after the kind of hockey he played after signing for all that dough.

Hughes could have just said he was getting married so he didn't want to come. Whatever. Totally valid. The point is that he hadn't taken offseason seriously enough in the past until the crap hit the fan.
When you consider the shit that went on around this team regarding issues in the room and team chemistry problems, and the fact that it was his lack of off-season work that was a key issue…..saying yes to training with Hughes for 2 weeks would have shown that he was committed to making things work here and being part of the solution.

He said no. Enough said.
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True. But it's a HT forum and Mëds need to relax and unwind.

After the recent personal events, I doubt he waives for any team. But if so, more likely prioritize California teams for his family?
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