Re-booted SKYO approved pipe dreams and trade ideas

[Meds]

McTavish should be the only target IMO

(Of all the discussed possibilities)

This.

I’d pay a premium for him. He projects to be a solid top-6 pivot. He’s 6’1” and 220lbs. Good mobility. Only 22 years old. He has the frame to be a JT Miller-like power forward.

We know full well the value of having 2 guys in that position.

I would pay a 1st, Willander, and one of Raty, Chytil, or Hoglander, for him.

[Megaterio Llamas]

I would pay Willander or D-Pete, an unprotected first and Boeser or Garland, but it's probably not getting it done. I think they have zero intention of trading McTavish, unfortunately. For the reasons mentioned by @Mëds...

[Cousin Strawberry]

To me Zacha is another bandaid on a bullet hole.

Adding McT would be an epic world changing upgrade for the team for the next decade +. I'm pretty sure I'd move any 2 assets we have except Hughes to make it happen. The kid is gonna be a beast

[Chef Boi RD]

Listen, Chef is growing very tired and malaised from the constant barrage of middle six acquisitions. It’ll get is nowhere fast. No pain no gain!

[Madcombinepilot]

Bruins apparently shopping Centres Zacha and Middelstadt. Centres who are right up the Canucks mushy midfdle wheelhouse #wildcardhockey

Holy fuck… is Cheffy lobbing to be the new board Eyore?? Nothing but doom and gloom for months…

Some posters having optimism, Chefaroni is simply burning it in volume.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Bruins apparently shopping Centres Zacha and Middelstadt. Centres who are right up the Canucks mushy midfdle wheelhouse #wildcardhockey

Holy fuck… is Cheffy lobbing to be the new board Eyore?? Nothing but doom and gloom for months…

Some posters having optimism, Chefaroni is simply burning it in volume.

Team made the playoffs 5/6 seasons but he bitched and cried about the manager since the day Randy Bo Bandy got fired until Lennie Small got hired. Then he licked Lennie's dink and asscrack for the better part of a decade despite the team being a shitshow in every way. Allvin and Rutherford have at least got the team to a mushy middle. Elmo made it the laughing stock of the league.

[Chef Boi RD]

Nonis set Gillis up nicely with a fabulous young core, but unfortunately for the Canucks, in the end, Gillis clearly wasn’t the right man for what was gifted to him.

JimBro Benning inherited a disaster.

[Blob Mckenzie]

JimBro Benning inherited a disaster.

No he didn't

[Meds]

JimBro Benning inherited a disaster.

No he didn't

He inherited a powder keg that had "handle with care" stamped all over it.....and then he lit the fuse.

Year 1.

He made some necessary moves on the blueline and acquired a 2nd rounder for Garrison. He then flipped that pick to LA for Linden Vey.....WTF?

He drafted Virtanen and McCann. leaning into a power-forward build who was from the home town and going for a center who had taken a big step forward in his draft eligible season and possessed two-way smarts. Good thoughts. However, he passed on Nylander, Ehlers, Larkin, Fiala, and Larkin, and then further passed on Pastrnak.....and thank fuck he passed on Ho-Sang lol.

He burned a 3rd rounder in a package to acquire Andrey Pedan.

He traded Forsling for Clendening.....that's some piss poor talent assessment.

He moved a 2015 second round pick to Calgary for Baetschi. That pick was used by the Flames to select Rasmus Andersson.

Year 2

Apart from Boeser, the 2015 draft was abysmal for Vancouver, and that was partly due to Benning shipping out picks at a time when the team should have been acquiring them.

At at time when a soft, re-tooling, team needed some leadership and loyalty, he traded "I'll go down with the ship!" Bieksa for a 2nd rounder. He then flipped that 2nd rounder to PIttsburgh with Bonino and Clendening for Sutter and a 3rd. Bonino went on to be a key piece of 2 Stanley Cups for the Pens (and who did we give up for Clendening?).

He then traded a 2nd, a 4th, and McCann, to Florida for Gudbranson and a 5th. Trying to forget who he passed on in the draft when he ultimately took McCann.

Year 3

He fucked the dog and selected Juolevi.....and followed that up with 5 selections who were equally as useful. The list of players after Juolevi who are very useful NHL'ers is actually long.....but it includes names like Tkachuk, Keller, McAvoy, Tage Thompson, Kyrou, and DeBrincat.

He signs Loui Eriksson to what would become known as one of the worst contracts in Canucks history.

He trades another tenured vet, Burrows, for a guy who never panned out.

Days later ships out Hansen for a Russian bust.


I needn't go on. There were some alright signings in there, but ultimately his first 3 seasons had the potential to set the stage for the arrival of Pettersson and Hughes.....and while perhaps a few of the acquisitions that he didn't make would have changed draft positions somewhat, I think that there is a high likelihood that both of those players would have still been available had our draft position dropped a couple of spots in their respective years.....but he sufficiently screwed up in those first few years to take the team into the ditch for the following 5-6 seasons.

The only thing I will say in defense of Elmer is that he had the unhappy responsibility of answering to an owner who was extremely impatient and incapable of playing the long game.

[Blob Mckenzie]

The thing with Eeyore, Topper and ESQ is I think they actually think Elmer did a bang-up job. Doc and Danny were clearly trolling. I renember Rummy calling them out back in the day.


My point is Elms was left with a gaggle of cap space, 5 top 4 D men between 24 and 33. Two HHOF forwards who were 33 and tilted the ice, a 19 year old Bo Horvat, a 24 year old Jacob Markstrom.... and pick #6 in the draft as well as a prime trade chip in Ryan Kesler.

Eeyore in Spandex is either a very dumb fan or a troll.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Eeyore in Spandex is either a very dumb fan or a troll.

If you don't know by now then it's like he's like the Yoda of internet trolls

[Blob Mckenzie]

Eeyore in Spandex is either a very dumb fan or a troll.

If you don't know by now then it's like he's like the Yoda of internet trolls

Oh I know he's a top 3 troll I've ever seen. But I truly think he believes a fair chunk of the shit he spews. But the trolling makes it difficult for him to talk about the sport without trying to soak the place with gas on a daily basis. It's GM like. Like when he got called out for shitragging the Panthers moves for years, he just changed the subject.

Hated Burke, loved Cheeseburgular, hated Eye Bags, loved Lennie Small, hates Allvin. Hated Mackinnon, Makar etc.

[Cousin Strawberry]

I swear his whole schtick is designed to illicit a response from you. Its pretty funny actually... He's been at it for what, 15-20 years?



The commitment is outstanding

[Meds]

My point is Elms was left with a gaggle of cap space, 5 top 4 D men between 24 and 33. Two HHOF forwards who were 33 and tilted the ice, a 19 year old Bo Horvat, a 24 year old Jacob Markstrom.... and pick #6 in the draft as well as a prime trade chip in Ryan Kesler.

Negative.

Kesler held a full NMC and would waive it ONLY for Anaheim. That made trading him for a prime return impossible.

I'll also disagree that the Sedins tilted the ice at that stage. They had both just put up sub-50 point seasons after being 75 point players the season before that. They did bounce back in Elm's first season as GM, both almost hitting the 1.0PPG mark again, but in Benning's second season the drop off was there to stay.

[Blob Mckenzie]

I swear his whole schtick is designed to illicit a response from you. Its pretty funny actually... He's been at it for what, 15-20 years?



The commitment is outstanding

I give him a response a good chunk of the time and it's 99 % tongue in cheek. The thing is there are a dozen posters here. If you think his act is entirely directed at me you're out to lunch. Remember he also had several meltdowns on the open forum to the point where he got the hook for a while.

Take the beer goggles off.

The trolling and banter is hilarious to a point. When it becomes the focal point of the place, it's a bit redundant.

Curious if Weibo, Angry Lever and Hank ever return.