Re-booted SKYO approved pipe dreams and trade ideas

[rikster]

Keep hearing the Sabres as a destination for Pettersson. Rumours they are shopping Tuch - RW - (UFA 2026), Peterka - RW - (RFA), Byram (RFA) and Power ($8.35 million per).

Doesn’t necessarily solve the centre ice with any of them.

Yep Sabres make a lot of sense - Petey is good buddies with Dahlin and Buffalo is not a place stars want to go, so getting a guy signed long-term is attractive. They also have lots of youngish assets that the Canucks would like to get their hands on. Also remember that Alex Tuch’s wife is from Vancouver so perhaps the family may be interested in getting back out here - as a guy who spent time in Buffalo when I lived out east and now live in North Van about 10 minutes from where my wife grew up I know that wives can dictate where a family lives. Tuch has 1 year left on his deal so a decision needs to be made on him this summer given Buffalo is not exactly a contender.

One thing to note on the Petey speculation, I was told they were trying to trade him but that doesn’t mean they will be successful. I’m guessing they have a high price but hopefully somebody can meet it.

Hey DieHard...

The thing I can't wrap my head around is this notion that he is uncoachable and the organization has given up on him yet they expect a team to give them a high price in return?...

Just doesn't make sense....

And if he is a challenge for coaches then Buffalo is the last organization that would want to take on the project of turning his head around...

Can't see them making a deal that doesn't bring back a centre, and hard to think that the centre they aquire is a better player than EP so would they pull the trigger after dealing Horvat and Miller?

Don't think so...

Crazy how an off year can turn you into a parah in this market....

Take care...

[Blob Mckenzie]

Absolutely @Chef. This Geezer has pitched a comedy of errors since he arrived in town.

And yeah @Cuz, Scooter will make any deal look bad at first, it's bound to happen.

He's done more good than bad.

Miller has been run off of three teams.

I'm ready to tie a can to Elias though. He and Miller are both cancers.

[rikster]

Absolutely @Chef. This Geezer has pitched a comedy of errors since he arrived in town.

And yeah @Cuz, Scooter will make any deal look bad at first, it's bound to happen.

He's done more good than bad.

Miller has been run off of three teams.

I'm ready to tie a can to Elias though. He and Miller are both cancers.

Millers on rinse and repeat while this is all new to EP so I'm not ready to throw EP under the bus and not given his talent level...

He has a full off season to train free of nagging bumps and bruises, Tochett has quit and moved on and Miller is long in the back window so for me its lets see how this season plays out...

Having said that, a couple of off season ago I did raise an eyebrow watching EP spend his summer GQ'ing it up in LA and wondered if stardom had gone to his head?....

And then he put up a 1.27 point per game average...

There is no denying he is an elite talent who is entering his prime....

We don't need another Cam Neeley scenario...

Take care...

[Cornuck]

We don't need another Cam Neeley scenario...

or another OEL scenario...

It's a coin toss at this point, but we have 1-1/2 seasons (the most recent) worth of evidence that something's not right in the ol' noggin with this kid.

After July 1, we're stuck with him for better or worse.

[theman]

We don't need another Cam Neeley scenario...

or another OEL scenario...

It's a coin toss at this point, but we have 1-1/2 seasons (the most recent) worth of evidence that something's not right in the ol' noggin with this kid.

After July 1, we're stuck with him for better or worse.

Now, which scenario is more likely to happen?

[Cornuck]

Now, which scenario is more likely to happen?

I'm glad I'm not the person who has to make that bet. But, if it were me.... I'd cut bait while I could and go for the best return that's offered.

[rikster]

We don't need another Cam Neeley scenario...

or another OEL scenario...

It's a coin toss at this point, but we have 1-1/2 seasons (the most recent) worth of evidence that something's not right in the ol' noggin with this kid.

After July 1, we're stuck with him for better or worse.

Not sure what you mean by 1 1/2 seasons, his ppg was over 1.00 the two seasons before last season...

Me, I want to see what he can do minus Tochett and Miller....

Take care..

[Meds]

Linden, Hank, and Dank, three of the most respected Canucks when it comes to work ethic, team first, and being coachable, wanting to adapt and improve for success…..all of them (allegedly) have questioned Pettersson at this point.

This is not a case where respected vets are questioning a young player on his ELC. This is a player with 7 NHL seasons under his belt with the organization that drafted him. The vets in this scenario are also not alumni who stepped away from the team and city for a decade and have just parachuted back in…..they are professionals who have kept their finger on the pulse of this organization eince they hung up their skates.

All of this is of course predicated upon diehard’s share regarding the Sedin’s opinion being legit…..but we have no reason to doubt diehard, particularly when the info and the eye test match up.

But really, we should dismiss the opinion of tenured NHL’ers because hey, rikster knows best.

[JelloPuddingPop]

But really, we should dismiss rumoured opinion of tenured NHL’ers because hey, rikster knows best.

FYP

Not trying to call Diehard out or anything, but I'd suggest a bit of calm here - as suddenly the owners are talking to the friend of a GDHTMB poster sounds a lot like Dark Helmet's relationship to Lone Starr...

[theman]

Now, which scenario is more likely to happen?

I'm glad I'm not the person who has to make that bet. But, if it were me.... I'd cut bait while I could and go for the best return that's offered.

Me too.


That being said, while I do think Petey will rebound to be a fairly productive player next season (near PPG is my expectation), if a team offers up a respectable package for him you take it and run.

[Diehard1]

Keep hearing the Sabres as a destination for Pettersson. Rumours they are shopping Tuch - RW - (UFA 2026), Peterka - RW - (RFA), Byram (RFA) and Power ($8.35 million per).

Doesn’t necessarily solve the centre ice with any of them.

Yep Sabres make a lot of sense - Petey is good buddies with Dahlin and Buffalo is not a place stars want to go, so getting a guy signed long-term is attractive. They also have lots of youngish assets that the Canucks would like to get their hands on. Also remember that Alex Tuch’s wife is from Vancouver so perhaps the family may be interested in getting back out here - as a guy who spent time in Buffalo when I lived out east and now live in North Van about 10 minutes from where my wife grew up I know that wives can dictate where a family lives. Tuch has 1 year left on his deal so a decision needs to be made on him this summer given Buffalo is not exactly a contender.

One thing to note on the Petey speculation, I was told they were trying to trade him but that doesn’t mean they will be successful. I’m guessing they have a high price but hopefully somebody can meet it.

Hey DieHard...

The thing I can't wrap my head around is this notion that he is uncoachable and the organization has given up on him yet they expect a team to give them a high price in return?...

Just doesn't make sense....

And if he is a challenge for coaches then Buffalo is the last organization that would want to take on the project of turning his head around...

Can't see them making a deal that doesn't bring back a centre, and hard to think that the centre they aquire is a better player than EP so would they pull the trigger after dealing Horvat and Miller?

Don't think so...

Crazy how an off year can turn you into a parah in this market....

Take care...

Hi Rikster,

I think that's exactly what other teams would think - that it's just an off year. They could absolutely be correct but from the sounds of it the team is done with him. I think the Province had an article this morning that stated the team is trying to get rid of drama and cancerous players (paraphrasing) and Petey is about the only guy I think that might refer to.

Keep in mind that the 'uncoachable' comment came from somebody within the organization, that's not something that other teams have heard and I'm pretty sure the team wants to keep it that way.

As for a potential return, that remains to be seen but when guys like Eichel are going for big value when they may be permanently injured (neck), I think teams are willing to take the risk. There aren't many players like a motivated Petey, it's just too bad that doesn't seem to be his M.O. I can't ever recall a player of his stature that seemed as unmotivated - I have no idea why that is or what happened, but if it's true then definitely time to move on. Luckily management has a lot more info than we do on this so they'll make a more informed decision.

And yes, it's a gong show going from 3 top line centres to 0 in 3 years, but such is the life of a Canuck fan......

[Diehard1]

But really, we should dismiss rumoured opinion of tenured NHL’ers because hey, rikster knows best.

FYP

Not trying to call Diehard out or anything, but I'd suggest a bit of calm here - as suddenly the owners are talking to the friend of a GDHTMB poster sounds a lot like Dark Helmet's relationship to Lone Starr...

Feel free to call me out if you want, but the Sedin 'uncoachable' comment is ironclad and directly from somebody who would know. Wish I could say who it was but that would be badly betraying trust of a friend and I don't do that. I've been on these message boards for over 20 years and have never posted insider info before but when I heard this I figured it was too good to share. We'll see what happens soon enough.

[Blob Mckenzie]

But really, we should dismiss rumoured opinion of tenured NHL’ers because hey, rikster knows best.

FYP

Not trying to call Diehard out or anything, but I'd suggest a bit of calm here - as suddenly the owners are talking to the friend of a GDHTMB poster sounds a lot like Dark Helmet's relationship to Lone Starr...

Feel free to call me out if you want, but the Sedin 'uncoachable' comment is ironclad and directly from somebody who would know. Wish I could say who it was but that would be badly betraying trust of a friend and I don't do that. I've been on these message boards for over 20 years and have never posted insider info before but when I heard this I figured it was too good to share. We'll see what happens soon enough.

Yup. + 1 the guy is a head case. Cut the head off the snake.

Good to see you DH

[JelloPuddingPop]

But really, we should dismiss rumoured opinion of tenured NHL’ers because hey, rikster knows best.

FYP

Not trying to call Diehard out or anything, but I'd suggest a bit of calm here - as suddenly the owners are talking to the friend of a GDHTMB poster sounds a lot like Dark Helmet's relationship to Lone Starr...

Feel free to call me out if you want, but the Sedin 'uncoachable' comment is ironclad and directly from somebody who would know. Wish I could say who it was but that would be badly betraying trust of a friend and I don't do that. I've been on these message boards for over 20 years and have never posted insider info before but when I heard this I figured it was too good to share. We'll see what happens soon enough.

Like I said, I wasn't trying to call you out - just that context is as important as the actual words that were said.

No way a guy who got Selke nomination votes, won a Guldhjälmen - and is over a PPG until last year, hasn't been coachable previously. I just don't buy that.

Why context is so important: Has he become uncoachable recently? Was he in the past? After he signed his contract, prior to? If he was, to whom? Just the Sedins? Or all his coaches?

So much context is missing.

[Cousin Strawberry]

This probably stems from his obvious dislike for tick rocket.

Can you really blame him? When the coach sides with the guy who got moved out after the trade it's pretty clear that old Tick was a huge part of the problem