Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 07, 2025 8:48 pm
The playoffs are hard. BB isnt a top end play driver but is paid like one.
He does have some hockey smarts and a set of hands but is absolute zero on the physicality scale which isn't what wins when it counts. Plus he moves like he's over 40
Van wanted a play driver level return for a complimentary asset
First off, no, he’s not paid like a top end player driver. He’s making elite second line money right now.
Brock doesn’t throw the body, but he definitely isn’t afraid of being hit and he absolutely goes to the dirty areas and the crease.
Brock has excellent hockey smarts. It’s how he potted 40 last year with the wheels of a 40 year old.
Vancouver absolutely set the bar too high. But right now they needed to because of how shitty the year has gone and how deep into the ditch the bus has gone because of, largely, Demko’s and Pettersson’s seasons.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
UFA winger - Marchant only got a second?
If that was the best offer, I have no issue with them keeping Brock as an own rental.
They’ll still have his salary cap to shop for UFAs if he is walked to free agency.
I’m more surprised they didn’t shop a pick (the Soucy 3rd) to add another replacement level NHL winger for depth.
One injury and the Canucks are playing Aman, Raty or Karlsson.
At least it looks like the Canucks will have a draft pick in every round, which is surprising.
I’m not at all surprised that Seravalli was wrong about everything he said about Canuck trades running up to the deadline.
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Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:44 am
He's reportedly looking for 8+ so that would be a top end demand no? Let me correct myself...he's looking to be paid like a top end play driver....
The proof is in the pudding. Nobody is giving up shit for slow and soft
It’s the same percentage of the cap he is getting now. and he is not worse as a player now than he was then.
Everyone sees the slowness of foot speed, including management that’s why they don’t want to govern him 7 or 8 years.
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Picker of Cherries wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 4:43 am
UFA winger - Marchant only got a second?
If that was the best offer, I have no issue with them keeping Brock as an own rental.
They’ll still have his salary cap to shop for UFAs if he is walked to free agency.
I’m more surprised they didn’t shop a pick (the Soucy 3rd) to add another replacement level NHL winger for depth.
One injury and the Canucks are playing Aman, Raty or Karlsson.
At least it looks like the Canucks will have a draft pick in every round, which is surprising.
I’m not at all surprised that Seravalli was wrong about everything he said about Canuck trades running up to the deadline.
Yeah a lot of people KNOW Boeser could have returned a 1st. They KNOW. Maybe they did get offered Dallas''s 2027 1st from Carolina. I don't KNOW. I don't think Quinn would be impressed at that return.
This board has been some solid entertainment this season. People screaming and seething about Peter constantly. Having tantrums that the Punching Bag got traded. They are gonna rip up their tickets, want the Canucks to miss the playoffs, canceling SN, cheering for other teams now. Its hilarious.
“I don’t care what you and some other poster were talking about”
According to The Province Florida was in on Boeser and the return may have been a 1st but then Boston made Marchant available for a conditional 1st. He must play at least 50% of Florida's playoff games or it reverts to a 2nd. Other teams showed interest in Boeser but no indication that a 1st was offered. Vancouver did not want a conditional 1st.
Carolina wanted to trade Jesperi Kotkaniemi and the Canucks were interested in that. But Carolina had to wait for Dallas to complete the Rantenan deal and that took them long enough that Carolina ran out of time to do anything else really. They were willing to part with Kotkaniemi once they got Stanhoven. Caroline wanted a 1st plus a "a" prospect and that is the part that the Canucks would not part with.
Neither deal was dependent upon the other as the Canucks still had their own 1st.
It would have been nice if Allvin came out and said look, the value we would have gotten back for Boeser would have been less than us keeping Brock as our own "rental". Perhaps Allvin waited too long too. Wanted to try to land that centre in a hockey trade before he parted with Boeser. We know his main objective was to land a young centre with term. Allvin said something interesting last night. He was obviously frustrated with how the day went but he said you know I could still make a trade tomorrow, even though he knows that any acquired players would not be eligible for the playoffs, if that trade makes sense. So is he still interested in Jesperi Kotkaniemi if the asking price is still a 1st but a lesser prospect not named Willander, Pettersson of Lekkermaki?
I’d rather re-sign Pius with term than offer up assets for an over-rated, under performing Jesper Kotkaniemi. At least PS is a proficient penalty killer.
Fuck sakes, what is with Allvin’s obsession with pillowy soft European centres?
I’ve managed my expectations for this team this season. It seems management has as well. That said, Allvin’s been on-record saying he’s not interested in picks. With the exception of the Norris/Cozens trade - which was essentially a trade of injury-risk for questionable potential - picks were the prime currency. I think Allvin had set his expectations for a return for Boeser (likely a younger winger or centre with Van adding picks to make it work) and no one met it.
Boeser can be traded before the draft, albeit with less of a return, if they don’t think they’ll sign him before 1 July. The sky isn’t falling here. If he signs for a reasonable amount, great. If he doesn’t, I’m okay with Lekki moving into that spot even if it means a comparative dip in production next year. Besides, wingers can be had in FA, regardless the year.
Let’s just see where this team goes the rest of the way and treat it as an audition for next year. Who shows up from here on in, and who doesn’t?
BoS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 1:33 pm
I’d rather re-sign Pius with term than offer up assets for an over-rated, under performing Jesper Kotkaniemi. At least PS is a proficient penalty killer.
Fuck sakes, what is with Allvin’s obsession with pillowy soft European centres?
Pettersson isn't soft. He gets knocked around because he's not strong enough. Chytil plays in traffic. He isn't a bruiser. JK just kicked he shit out of Cozens. He's a gritty guy.
I'd like a Sam Bennett type in the middle too. Tough to find.
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BoS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 1:33 pm
I’d rather re-sign Pius with term than offer up assets for an over-rated, under performing Jesper Kotkaniemi. At least PS is a proficient penalty killer.
Fuck sakes, what is with Allvin’s obsession with pillowy soft European centres?
Pettersson isn't soft. He gets knocked around because he's not strong enough. Chytil plays in traffic. He isn't a bruiser. JK just kicked he shit out of Cozens. He's a gritty guy.
I'd like a Sam Bennett type in the middle too. Tough to find.
Bennett is UFA this year if I recall......
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
BoS wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 1:33 pm
I’d rather re-sign Pius with term than offer up assets for an over-rated, under performing Jesper Kotkaniemi. At least PS is a proficient penalty killer.
Fuck sakes, what is with Allvin’s obsession with pillowy soft European centres?
Agreed. Kotkaniemi is a 3rd line center. You don't need to trade for that. Suter has 1 more point in 2 fewer games. Kotkaniemi is overpaid.
Somewhere in NW BC trying (yet again) to trade a(nother) Swede…..
and he is not worse as a player now than he was then. 
