JT Miller Traded to NYR + Marcus Pettersson Acquired from Pens

[Meds]

What I want to know is how and why a management team goes from choosing Miller over the "tenured" captain 2 years ago, to dumping him for a bag of pucks AFTER he has performed the way he has since they extended him.

It reeks of them doubling down on a bad decision in Pettersson. The guy phones it in for the last 32 games of last year, and then switches to snail mail for the post-season all AFTER signing his monster contract. Then he shows up to camp out of shape and so JT called the dude out for what he was and JR and PA (and even more likely Aquaman) needed to paint Miller as the bad guy in hopes that they don't look like clowns for hitching their $11.6M wagon to a pouty mouse.

[Nuckertuzzi]

And they can't stand Canadians.I don't like these guys at all.

At least they tried to like Canadians when they signed Dedesharnais, Heinen and Debrusk. How long did that last? And well, now, Jake, you better get ready to go back home to Edmonton or elsewhere soon knowing how this is trending.

.....Btw, who the F is gonna sign here anymore?!?

Miller signs what he thought was a career finishing deal, gone a couple years later
Petey same thing, now on the block barely a year later
Kuzmenko signs multi year, gone next year
Dedesharnais signs multi year, gone half year later
Heinen signs multi year, gone half year later
Sprong signs, gone within a month

Not to mention NTCs mean dick all with this management group..even though it wasn't them who acquired OEL and that was a buyout, but another example of the secure environment these guys create.

Yeah I get things change fast, and a lot of these signings were mistakes that needed to be corrected, but that only underlines the incompetence and def makes you wonder what players and agents around the league think if considering this a destination. Not to mention Quinn!

[Picker of Cherries]

I was hoping they would keep both Miller and Pettersson at least until summer. The one part of these trades that gnaws at me is not sending out their own first round pick this season instead of the Rangers. There is a decent chance that the Rags don’t improve in the standings even with Miller and their top 13 pick would have slid to next season for the Canucks. Then the Canucks would have had admittedly very low odds to draft Gavin McKenna with it, but you never know, the Rags could have injuries and an awful season next year, and the 2026 draft is supposed to be stacked. That could turn out to a fantastic pick, and much better than the Canucks own pick this season, (if they don’t trade that pick away too for a rental in the next few weeks).

Hope management knows what it’s doing, the new players have success and the Canucks pick up their play. With the Canucks, I do think Miller was more likely to decline to his pre-breakout defensively questionable play than return to his 100+ point play. So, I do think the Canucks sold fairly high on Miller and would be selling near his low if they had traded Pettersson. There is a good chance Miller will be re-energized on the Rangers. That being said, the Canucks biggest problem this season has been on defence. I don’t know what happened in the locker room, so I can’t comment on the need to move Miller, but his passion, creativity, asshole attitude, and clutch scoring were awesome. He surprised me and really improved dramatically in his time with the Canucks. He’ll be missed.

[Madcombinepilot]

I think this is my fault.

I spouted off we needed shortest and the 3 Jim’s…

Baldies heard “3 Petterssons”

[theman]

Now that I have had time to reflect.

I don’t mind the Miller trade, it is not great but if it was that huge of a problem in the dressing room, i get it.

As for the M Petey, why the 1st? Surely a 2nd would have gotten it done?

[Cousin Strawberry]

I just can't wait to see how Mëds responds to yet another skinny Pettersson tickling his swollen medulla oblongata

[theman]

Some mentioned earlier of a new top 6 now, hopefully the Pettersson is a solid 2nd pairing.

[rikster]

Ok after yelling about the Miller return for a second, I'm starting to see a method to the madness

Miller was clearly an issue. Not the only issue but an issue that needed a timely resolution nonetheless. It had already dragged on way too long.

After reading up a bit on the big defender, he's starting to look like there may be some upside to that one. As Blobbo mentioned Rags fans are not happy to see this kid leave. He apparently impressed.

Shittle....well that one stings a bit

MPetey is a good add. He's wiry strong and makes simple, smooth exits. The D just got better especially since it means Sauce goes to the third pair where he belongs

It's Atu Raty's time to either show he can play or fade off into obscurity. Let's hope he's up for it.

We're as thin as the arm of a Pettersson down the middle now. That's not so wonderful but seeing their fight tonight can be something to build hope out of yeah?

I'm a believer in managing with a string of rope...

Each member of the team is given a string of rope, different sizes for different team members, and then you let them learn thru their mistakes and with each mistake you give out some of their rope....If the time comes when they have run out of rope then its time to step in and deal with the situation ...

EP and Miller have created drama which has impacted the team and will cost the franchise major $$$.... ownership couldn't fix it, management couldn't fix it, coaches couldn't fix it, one of the best players on the planet and captain of the team along with the rest of the leadership group couldn't fix it, JT's wife couldn't fix it....there was no more rope to give out so hard and unpleasent changes had to be made...

This is what Rutherford told us in his press conference which for me was one last hail mary at getting these 2 players to wake the f*ck up and put the team ahead of their egos....He prepared us for an underwhelming return...

I have very little sympathy for either one of them, less for Miller because he should be the more mature one and he has a wife and a family who some here have said are very enbetted into the community and most of all because this is not a one off, its now a trend that has plagued him since he entered the league ...

He admitted his past mistakes when he signed his new deal and thanked ownership, management and the coaching staff for understanding him and giving him a fresh string of rope to work with...

So what did he do with that fresh string of rope?.......He torched it....And not just with a lockeroom torch, he used an on ice torch as well...bailing on shifts, making hope and prayer passes which would get Hoglander sent to the ECHL, alot of I don't care plays in his own end.....

I say don't let the door hit you on the way out because for me this is a lot worse than the Kessler situation when he gave the organization a list of 1 team he was willing to sign off to on a trade....

Reading comments from the Rangers, they seem to be luke warm over Miller getting a new string of rope in NY and are questioning the decision to bring an older player on a long term contract into the system..

The highlights I've watched on the young defenceman are encouraging and he fits the theme of the players they've received which is good skaters with size...

It's interesting that some who were wanting Byram from Buffalo are now upset that they aquired a concussion prone player in Chytl....multiple concussions is an obvious major concern so will be curious to see what the team sez when asked about it....

Canuck fans are consistant....they were up in arms over the loss of a first round pick used to aquire JT almost 6 years ago...

Traded from the Tampa Bay Lightning to the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Marek Mazanec, a 2019 third-round pick, and a conditional 2020 first-round pick (which later became the 20th overall pick, used to select Shakir Mukhamadullin).

They are now upset that the Canucks used that first round pick on the package from Pittsburg...

As for EP, he's lived a charmed hockey life from the time he took up skates which may have led to a my s*it doesn't smell attitude....Hopefully this has been a character changer for him and learns from it...

He's been given a fresh string of rope with the trading of JT but somehow I don't think the string is as large as it once was....

Take care...

[Chef Boi RD]

Again, the season was cooked well before Miller was traded. There are 31 games left in the season, even if we sneak the wild card door we are toast early. M. Pettersson is a UFA at season’s end, save the god damn pick and go balls to the wall after him in July if you love him that much, ffs. It’s a ridiculous trade. Joe we are not even guaranteed to sign him. I don’t get these two Jack Asses.

[Chef Boi RD]

And they can't stand Canadians.I don't like these guys at all.

At least they tried to like Canadians when they signed Dedesharnais, Heinen and Debrusk. How long did that last? And well, now, Jake, you better get ready to go back home to Edmonton or elsewhere soon knowing how this is trending.

.....Btw, who the F is gonna sign here anymore?!?

Miller signs what he thought was a career finishing deal, gone a couple years later
Petey same thing, now on the block barely a year later
Kuzmenko signs multi year, gone next year
Dedesharnais signs multi year, gone half year later
Heinen signs multi year, gone half year later
Sprong signs, gone within a month

Not to mention NTCs mean dick all with this management group..even though it wasn't them who acquired OEL and that was a buyout, but another example of the secure environment these guys create.

Yeah I get things change fast, and a lot of these signings were mistakes that needed to be corrected, but that only underlines the incompetence and def makes you wonder what players and agents around the league think if considering this a destination. Not to mention Quinn!

You forgot Mikheyev. You know, the guy they signed for $4 million a year on a 4 year contract and had to offer up a 2nd rd draft pick and lafferty to get rid of him. Remember they traded a 5th to get Lafferty. It seems these two dingbats don’t think things through much.

[Blob Mckenzie]

Again, the season was cooked well before Miller was traded. There are 31 games left in the season, even if we sneak the wild card door we are toast early. M. Pettersson is a UFA at season’s end, save the god damn pick and go balls to the wall after him in July if you love him that much, ffs. It’s a ridiculous trade. Joe we are not even guaranteed to sign him. I don’t get these two Jack Asses.

Sassy little guy.

[rikster]

Again, the season was cooked well before Miller was traded. There are 31 games left in the season, even if we sneak the wild card door we are toast early. M. Pettersson is a UFA at season’s end, save the god damn pick and go balls to the wall after him in July if you love him that much, ffs. It’s a ridiculous trade. Joe we are not even guaranteed to sign him. I don’t get these two Jack Asses.

Unless the Rangers fall off a cliff after the trade,the pick will be middle of the pack in a thin draft....

I think that they may have kept it if not for having their core group of players in their mid to late 20's, especially Hughes...

And if they don't think that they can resign him, they can flip him at the deadline....

And for those here who think cap space is the king of kings, the team has $6 million this deadline and $27 million to start next season...

Take care...

[Chef Boi RD]

Again, the season was cooked well before Miller was traded. There are 31 games left in the season, even if we sneak the wild card door we are toast early. M. Pettersson is a UFA at season’s end, save the god damn pick and go balls to the wall after him in July if you love him that much, ffs. It’s a ridiculous trade. Joe we are not even guaranteed to sign him. I don’t get these two Jack Asses.

Unless the Rangers fall off a cliff after the trade,the pick will be middle of the pack in a thin draft....

I think that they may have kept it if not for having their core group of players in their mid to late 20's, especially Hughes...

And if they don't think that they can resign him, they can flip him at the deadline....

And for those here who think cap space is the king of kings, the team has $6 million this deadline and $27 million to start next season...

Take care...

It’s actually a good draft class right up into the teens

[theman]

Yeah, if the rangers pick doesn’t end up in the 20s, giving up that first was not a great idea.

[theman]

Is Marcus related to either of the E Peteys?