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Summer acquisitions:
Heinen
Sherwood
DeBrusk
Desharnais
Forbert
Lankinen
Sprong
Brannstrom

Summer departures:
Zadorov
Cole
Mikheyev
Podkolzin
Desmith
Lindholm

Are missing the bottom 4 d-men Zadorov & Cole making this much of a difference?
Lindholm was always going to be a rental.
Debrusk and Sherwood are delivering
Lankinen is gold

The team needs to play with the intensity they did last year, especially the star forwards, plain & simple.
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Desharnais and Forbort for Zadorov and Cole is a losing proposition further exacerbated by Hroneks injury.
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Yes, it makes a YUGE difference having 6 NHL-caliber D.

Hronek's injury is unfortunate, but keeping Juulsen from being an everyday regular makes a difference. Rarely if ever having Friedman or Brannstrom in your boxscores makes a huge difference. Rotating the Zadorovs, Myers and Soucys between the second and third pairings as a norm makes a huge difference. Rarely if ever having Myers or Juulsen paired up with Hughes makes a huge difference.

The puck gets moved to the forwards who can use their speed and skill to attack, generating more sustained scoring opportunities. This is not a dump and chase and recover pucks kind of roster of forwards. The trouble in the defensive zone doesn't regularly get out of hand, bleeding high scoring chances if they have better dmen who can hold their ground and exit the zone better.

Right now this group is like a bunch of wet floor signs you put up when there is an aisle cleanup at your local Save On Foods. Does nothing of value because you still see the mess and you still need the janitor to actually clean it up.
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306NucksFan wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:30 am It smells like Miller has formed a little clique with garland and possibly boeser and it’s costing the franchise. There’s been drama since JT came on board so maybe it’s time to move him on.
Out of everyone, I think Millzy is actually closest to Myzy57.

I think Brockstar6 and Huggy43 are both quite close to EP40 though. When Brock's father was sick, Petey was virtually crying for them. When Huggy and Petey were last RFAs waiting to get a deal done, they were working out together @ Huggy's place while everyone else was @ camp. If there really is a rift between EP40 & Millzy9, Brock and Captain Hughes can bring the 2 together. :D

There's also Tocc. If anyone can do it, it's him. He can channel his inner Phil Jackson and get his Shaq & Kobe to work together to win a couple of championship. :P

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I wonder if Demmer has ever been to East Van?
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Carl Yagro wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:19 pm I wonder if Demmer has ever been to East Van?
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MJN wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:18 am
Carl Yagro wrote: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:19 pm I wonder if Demmer has ever been to East Van?
He needs some track marks, leather vest, a shitty earring, and a gf living at twc to complete the look.
You forgot neck and hand tattoo’s
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donlever wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2024 7:46 pm Desharnais and Forbort for Zadorov and Cole is a losing proposition further exacerbated by Hroneks injury.
This is right, and makes all the difference. The delta between Cole and Z and Juulsen/Forbert/Desharnais isn't all that much when the players are playing 16 minutes a night with some attempt to not have them on the ice against the Nathan Mackinnon's of the world. But once there's an injury and once of them needs to play 20+ without the ability to protect them much in match ups, the difference is quite noticeable. Cole, for his many warts, has learned how to compensate for weaknesses against highly skilled players. At least to the extent possible. Z, for whatever reason, has a personality that rises to the challenge (and falls when there is no challenge). Juulsen/Forbert/Desharnais, on the other hand, are more 6-7 types than 4-5 types, and both TOI and quality of opposition expose their weaknesses more than Cole and Z.

I actually don't think the D personnel is too big of a problem when healthy; though you can't expect it to be healthy and of course it would be way better if there was a #3 better than Myers/Soucy or at least another 4-5 type in the mix.
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Cole is missed a lot. Up to the All-Star game last season when the team peaked, Cole was the number one defensive defenseman, always first over the boards on the penalty kill. He was excellent in that role.

Right now Juulsen is their best PK defencemen, with probably Soucy and Forbet next in line. They have been a step down compared to what Cole did. (Although it is to judge Forbert because he has missed most of the season).

My guess is their best PK defencemen will end up being DePetey or Willander, so there is hope, but how far away?
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From what I understand we may see Willander at season’s end. Apparently, according to one Abbotsford reporter on talk radio that D-Petey has been stellar and playing like a veteran. Sounds like he isn’t too far away from graduation
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Picker of Cherries wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:32 am Cole is missed a lot. Up to the All-Star game last season when the team peaked, Cole was the number one defensive defenseman, always first over the boards on the penalty kill. He was excellent in that role.

Right now Juulsen is their best PK defencemen, with probably Soucy and Forbet next in line. They have been a step down compared to what Cole did. (Although it is to judge Forbert because he has missed most of the season).

My guess is their best PK defencemen will end up being DePetey or Willander, so there is hope, but how far away?
I thought he was a bit of a train wreck all year but for the PK, on which he was fairly good. But even thinking he was a bit of a disappointment, he wasn't *worse* playing against skill because his style countered skill decently, and he wasn't worse per minute when he had to eat more minutes. That was a real plus the Canucks are currently missing from their 6-7s.
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UWSaint wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 9:38 am
Picker of Cherries wrote: Mon Dec 23, 2024 8:32 am Cole is missed a lot. Up to the All-Star game last season when the team peaked, Cole was the number one defensive defenseman, always first over the boards on the penalty kill. He was excellent in that role.

Right now Juulsen is their best PK defencemen, with probably Soucy and Forbet next in line. They have been a step down compared to what Cole did. (Although it is to judge Forbert because he has missed most of the season).

My guess is their best PK defencemen will end up being DePetey or Willander, so there is hope, but how far away?
I thought he was a bit of a train wreck all year but for the PK, on which he was fairly good. But even thinking he was a bit of a disappointment, he wasn't *worse* playing against skill because his style countered skill decently, and he wasn't worse per minute when he had to eat more minutes. That was a real plus the Canucks are currently missing from their 6-7s.
He also played on his off side quite a bit. He's going to get a thousand games in for a reason. I'm talking about Ian Cole right now... did I miss the plot? If it's Juulsen he is a scrub. Topper was a massive fan of him.

They couldn't bring back the same D when factoring in Hronek's raise. The putrid trade for OEL also made the cap penalty substantially larger. If the teams top two forwards would play like they are the teams top two forwards, a lot of this shit wouldn't be an issue. Pick up a decent D man in the new year, and maybe Wilander gives you some juice after his college season is done.

Don't Benning the future this year but even a WC spot or getting bounced in the first round would be a good season.
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If the Canucks keep sliding, it will likely be Cole’s Hockey Clubs (Clubbers? Clubbees? Clubbettes? Clubbites?) that knock them out of the playoffs.
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The Canucks are gonna close out the season on a high. And I ain’t talking Cuz’s mushroom cloud high after a hit off the big momma water bong in his wooly socks by the crackling fire with Foghat cranked.
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