US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24 *AND* Beyond

[Meds]

A question. Watching from the outside I see and hear all these left media pundits saying Trump is Hitler, a Fascist, it is the end of democracy, he'll lock us all up, he's going after all his opponents, there will never be another election...and on and on.

If any of that were true, isn't that why the US has a Second Amendment that these same doomsayers want to limit?

Sure, that made sense back in 1791, but does it now? No militia is going to stand a chance against the US Army. This amendment has outlived its purpose and is now a danger to society.

With the number of guns that are in the hands of private citizens, there is no way the US army will be able to keep them in check. The revolution won't be able to meet the US army head on, but they will develop guerilla tactics to gradually wear them down. Also, if there is a mass revolution, don't you think that some of the US military will join the revolution? Anyway, it's a hypothetical situation and probably won't happen.

BTW - I agree there should be some restrictions - mainly some fairly rigorous screening of gun buyers. As far are the type of guns that can be obtained by Joe public, I think other than RPGs or tanks, a thoroughly screened person should be able to buy any type of gun they want.

Strictly for the intent of the amendment I would argue that anti-armour weapons should be fair game as well.

[Meds]

Mental health is one of the very few restriction I could see being enacted.

...meh, wouldn't help...all the Mental Health issues are on the anti NRA side.

Yeah, but half those folks own guns anyhow…..

Hmmmm…..wait…..is rampant hypocrisy now classifiable as a MH disorder?

[Meds]

For sure, putting in restrictions at this point might be a waste of time but at least it should be open for discussion at the political level.

Back to Toppers question, sure there are lots of guns in the states but how many gun owners are going to join a revolution and who is going to organize it? Yeah they might have guns, automatic weapons. Maybe some rocket launchers even. But they'll have 1% of the success that a similar force in 1791 would have had. They just don't have the technology, equipment, or organization. Yeah they could form a resistance movement but that doesn't really achieve the purposes of the second amendment. The government would still be in a position to impose its tyrannical rule.

I imagine a similar argument was made in 1774 by British certain loyalists congregating at their own local watering hole of the time.

[donlever]

Hey!

Here's a restriction.

No guns in watering holes....

[5thhorseman]

If it’s not unrestricted then your first point regarding its obsolescence is unassailable…..which is why it has to be unrestricted.

I agree, that if gun ownership was an effective deterrent to tyrannical government rule, then yes it should be unrestricted and should extend beyond guns as well. Why not anti-aircraft guns, tanks, drones with firepower etc.?

Thing is, I think it was a good idea back in 1791 but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for all time. Just look at how other democracies do it. Democracy should be an evolving thing.

Unfortunately Americans look at their Constitution and Amendments as sacred objects similar to the Bible.

[Meds]

Hey!

Here's a restriction.

No guns in watering holes....

Or explosives strapped to your person (5th and Per’s people are all about 40 virgins and the after life)…..

[donlever]

I agree, that if gun ownership was an effective deterrent to tyrannical government rule, then yes it should be unrestricted and should extend beyond guns as well.

Well, if tyrannical Governmental rule can be expanded and defined as to allowing Venezuelan Gangs to take over US citizens apartment complexes......then....

...yes it should be unrestricted and should extend beyond guns as well.

[Strangelove]

Thing is, I think it was a good idea back in 1791 but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for all time. Just look at how other democracies do it. Democracy should be an evolving thing.

Unfortunately Americans look at their Constitution and Amendments as sacred objects similar to the Bible.

Their Constitution and Amendments are sacred to them because America is a Federal Republic.

To a conservative, what you are recommending is devolution, rather than "evolution".

[Strangelove]

A question. Watching from the outside I see and hear all these left media pundits saying Trump is Hitler, a Fascist, it is the end of democracy, he'll lock us all up, he's going after all his opponents, there will never be another election...and on and on.

He didn't lock them up last time he was in office... and there were other elections.

But nutters gonna nut...

[donlever]

Again, a subject discussed in detail during the latest Musk Rogan discussion.

[Strangelove]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-t ... win-survey

"Nearly 54% of Harris voters want to move to a different state or country following Trump's win"

https://san.com/cc/thinking-of-leaving- ... ng-abroad/

As election results unfolded and Vice President Kamala Harris struggled to reach 270 electoral votes, Americans flocked to Google, spiking searches for terms like “moving to Canada” by over 5,000%.

On election night, searches for “immigrate to Canada” began climbing around 8 p.m. EST, with the trend peaking on the morning of Wednesday, Nov. 6.

The U.S.-Canada border topped the list of relocation queries...

In the face of post-election stress, mental health professionals encourage Americans to explore coping strategies at home.

“Routine, rest, and limiting exposure to election coverage can be effective ways to reduce stress,” Dr. Ashley Zucker, a psychiatrist at Kaiser Permanente, said.

If symptoms interfere with sleep or daily activities, mental health services are readily available.

Indeed, why head for Canada when you can simply check into the nearest sanitarium.

[Cornuck]

Of course, as we all know, most of what trump says is complete bullshit, but he has long history of wanting revenge. The current thought is that his last term was full of incompetent people, and those that weren't were the 'adults in the room' who stopped some of his worst impulses.

But hey - time will tell.

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Trump vowed: “I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of the United States of America, Joe Biden, and the entire Biden crime family.”

Harris “should be impeached and prosecuted” for her role in permitting what he termed an “invasion” of the U.S. by undocumented immigrants.

In August of this year, Trump reposted a message on Truth Social calling for “public military tribunals” for Obama.

“Wouldn’t it be terrible to throw the president’s wife and the former secretary of state … into jail?” Trump told Newsmax. “It’s a terrible, terrible, path that they’re leading us to and it’s very possible that it’s going to have to happen to them.”

Last November, Trump said on Truth Social that James “should be prosecuted” for her role in the suit. In January, he said at a campaign rally in Iowa that James “should be arrested and punished accordingly.”

At a campaign event early this year, Trump said Engoron “should be arrested and punished accordingly.”

In March, Trump declared on Truth Social that Cheney “should go to jail.” In June, he reposted a message calling Cheney “guilty of treason.”

In August, Trump reposted a message calling “Jackal Smith … a career criminal” and saying he “should be prosecuted for election interference and prosecutorial misconduct.” Last month, appearing on a radio show, Trump called Smith “mentally deranged” and said he “should be thrown out of the country.”

For mor than three years, Trump has railed against Milley, claiming that the general’s contact with a Chinese official during the tense transition period four years ago amounted to treason. “This is an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH!” Trump declared in a social media post last year.

“When I get back in office, I will appoint a real special prosecutor to investigate every detail of the Biden crime family of corruption,” Trump said last year.

For more than six years, Trump has been accusing Strzok of treason based on text messages he exchanged while working on aspects of the investigation into possible Russian influence on Trump’s 2016 campaign.

Trump’s vitriol against Schiff has continued, with the former president posting on Truth Social last year: “Schiff is a sleazebag and traitor, and should be prosecuted for the damage he has done to our Country!”

Trump accused Zuckerberg of a “shameful … plot against the president” and warned: “We are watching him closely, and if he does anything illegal this time he will spend the rest of his life in prison.”

“The Unselect Committee of political Hacks & Thugs has been totally discredited,” Trump wrote on Truth Social last year. “They should be tried for Fraud and Treason, and those imprisoned and being persecuted should be exonerated and released, NOW!”

[In reference to unnamed sources] “Go to the reporter & ask him/her who it was. If not given the answer, put whoever in jail until the answer is given. You might add the publisher and editor to the list,” Trump wrote on Truth Social last year. “Stop playing games, this leaking cannot be allowed to happen. It won’t take long before the name of this slime is revealed!”

etc etc

A Running List of the People Trump Has Called to Prosecute

[Topper]

Word coming out on Dem finances (Chritopher Cadelago with Politico on X). While the much of the star power donated there time, there were massive costs associated with the logistics and production. Very poor management (Bidenomics) of campaign funds. $20M debt at the end of the campaign. Many rural grassroots staffers were let go without pay.

Call Me Daddy podcast set was built in a DC hotel room for $100,000.

Oprah was paid for her interview and then there was the set with walls of screens for White men, white women, gays, blacks for Kamala

Rumours of massive payments to Beyonce.

Financing emails to pay for it all are being sent out to Dems.

Then Trump puts this out on X



LOL is trolling them or is he being magnanimous?

[5thhorseman]

Thing is, I think it was a good idea back in 1791 but that doesn't mean it's a good idea for all time. Just look at how other democracies do it. Democracy should be an evolving thing.

Unfortunately Americans look at their Constitution and Amendments as sacred objects similar to the Bible.

Their Constitution and Amendments are sacred to them because America is a Federal Republic.

To a conservative, what you are recommending is devolution, rather than "evolution".

If they think those documents are perfect and cannot evolve any further, then they're living under an illusion.

[5thhorseman]

LOL is trolling them or is he being magnanimous?

It's as if his account was hacked lol.

Either way, it's a good thing that money has its limits on drawing votes.