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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:18 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 2:43 pm Hey Strange, why don't you give us something really noteworthy, like which lawsuit is going to turn the tide for Trump.
Could be any one of 352, google is your friend and your guess is as good as mine...
That's gotta cost a lot but the reality is it is just a ruse to keep the money pouring in from donors.

The litigation will peter out but Republican coffers will be replenished and Trump's PAC will be well funded.

There's lots of right-wing suckers out there. You haven't sent him any money have you?
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5thhorseman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:20 pm That's gotta cost a lot but the reality is it is just a ruse to keep the money pouring in from donors.
Okay if you say so. :roll:
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:55 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:20 pm That's gotta cost a lot but the reality is it is just a ruse to keep the money pouring in from donors.
Okay if you say so. :roll:
4D chess, right?

Everybody's crying coup and 'put on your big boy pants' and meanwhile Trump is milking it.

You're being played bro!
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Oh, how the mighty have fallen! :lol:

Yet I get it; it's not easy, now that even Fox News admits that Biden has won, you have to go further and further off the deep end to find someone who supports the conspiracy narrative. Where will you go next? Der Völkische Beobachter? :roll:
I mean, they were among the very first to get on the "mainstream media is fake news" train, so there is a long proud tradition... :lol:


Meanwhile, in the real world:
Election Officials Directly Contradict Trump on Voting System Fraud
A group of federal, state and local officials working with a Department of Homeland Security agency declared flatly that the election was the most secure in the nation’s history.
“There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised,” said a statement from the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.


By David E. Sanger, Matt Stevens and Nicole Perlroth
Nov. 12, 2020


WASHINGTON — Hours after President Trump repeated a baseless report that a voting machine system “deleted 2.7 million Trump votes nationwide,” he was directly contradicted by a group of federal, state and local election officials, who issued a statement on Thursday declaring flatly that the election “was the most secure in American history” and that “there is no evidence” any voting systems were compromised.

The rebuke, in a statement by a coordinating council overseeing the voting systems used around the country, never mentioned Mr. Trump by name. But it amounted to a remarkable corrective to a wave of disinformation that Mr. Trump has been pushing across his Twitter feed.

The statement was distributed by the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which is responsible for helping states secure the voting process. Coming directly from one of Mr. Trump’s own cabinet agencies, it further isolated the president in his false claims that widespread fraud cost him the election.


The statement also came as a previously unified Republican Party showed signs of cracking on the question of whether to keep backing the president.

Across the country, election officials have said the vote came off smoothly, with no reports of systemic fraud in any state, no sign of foreign interference in the voting infrastructure and no hardware or software failures beyond the episodic glitches that happen in any election. President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr.’s lead in the popular vote has expanded to more than five million, and he remains on track to win a solid victory in the Electoral College.

The group that issued the statement was the Elections Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council, which includes top officials from the cybersecurity agency, the U.S. Election Assistance Commission and secretaries of state and state election directors from around the country. The group also includes representatives from the voting machine industry, which has often been accused of being slow to admit to technological shortcomings and resistant to creating paper backups.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should, too,” the officials added in their statement. “When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

In 2020, in part because of the vastly increased use of mail-in ballots, more than 92 percent of votes had some form of paper backup that can be used in audits or recounts.

The council was responsible only for the security of the actual election infrastructure — the voting machines, the scanners and the counting systems for ballots. So its statement did not encompass the full range of Mr. Trump’s accusations — rebutted by elections officials across the country — of other types of voting fraud, most notably that mail-in ballots were manipulated to give an advantage to Mr. Biden.

But Mr. Trump’s tweet on Thursday morning, citing an unsubstantiated report from One America News Network, which has backed Mr. Trump’s claims without skepticism, suggested that machines made by Dominion Voting Systems systematically deleted 2.7 million votes. His post immediately generated a warning from Twitter.

The basis of Mr. Trump’s claim was an error made in a county in Michigan, which initially miscounted a vote total in Mr. Biden’s favor. It was a human error, and it was quickly caught and corrected.

The Dominion software was used in only two of the five counties that had experienced Election Day hiccups in Michigan and Georgia. In every instance, there was a detailed explanation for what happened, most of it human error. In none of the cases did software affect the vote counts.

The council’s statement on Thursday was prompted by repeated “baseless claims of voter fraud that none of us have seen any evidence of,” said one the federal officials who signed it, Benjamin Hovland, the chairman of the U.S. Election Assistance Commission.

Mr. Hovland said that the group was aware of Mr. Trump’s tweet about the Dominion systems before it published its statement, but that it was only one of many statements that had disturbed the group for days.

“Because of this politically motivated rhetoric, these baseless accusations, you’re seeing harassment of election officials, you’re seeing threats toward elections officials — completely unacceptable,” he said. “We’ve seen these accusations time and time again. We’ve seen them by this president from the very start.”

“What you see happening right now,” Mr. Hovland added, “is playing right into the hands of our foreign adversaries who want to see us lose faith in our democracy.”


It was not the first time that government agencies have taken on Mr. Trump’s falsehoods. In July, the Food and Drug Administration warned against the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat the coronavirus after Mr. Trump had embraced its use. The president was angry, but the head of the agency has survived.

Many of the charges of fraud, illegal voting and software troubles have come from Mr. Trump and his sons.

Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son, called for “total war” in Georgia over what he claims is election fraud. Eric Trump shared conspiracy theories that poll workers in Arizona gave Trump voters Sharpie pens that could not be read by ballot scanners, a claim that was quickly debunked by Arizona’s secretary of state. The president’s supporters have sent death threats to poll workers in Pennsylvania.

Yet both before and after Election Day, Mr. Trump has been repeatedly contradicted — though never named — by the Department of Homeland Security’s cyberagency, as it has sought to dispel disinformation. The agency’s director, Christopher Krebs, had led the charge to secure election machines, registration systems and tabulation systems across the 50 states, sending experts to help and testing systems for vulnerabilities.

Mr. Krebs also argued that his agency had to counter the “hacking of minds as well as infrastructure,” and he created a “rumor control” page on his agency’s federal government website. It has repeatedly contradicted Mr. Trump, explaining why mail-in ballots do not lend themselves to fraud, and how states assure that the dead do not cast ballots.

Mr. Krebs, a former Microsoft executive with a quick wit and a willingness to resist political pressure, did not back down when these efforts created a backlash in the White House. And he was praised in public recently by the acting secretary of homeland security, Chad F. Wolf, for the “rumor control” effort.

Mr. Krebs has widely been rumored to be on the hit list of officials who may be fired by the White House, along with the C.I.A. director, Gina Haspel, and the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray. But so far, the boom has not been lowered.

One of Mr. Krebs’s top deputies, Bryan Ware, the assistant director for cybersecurity, submitted his resignation on Thursday. Valerie Boyd, a senior official for international affairs at the Department of Homeland Security who also worked at the National Security Council in the Obama administration, was ousted after the White House asked for her resignation, according to a homeland security official.

In a statement, Lily Adams, a spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee, said, “It has always been clear that this election was free, fair and secure, and now even Trump’s own Department of Homeland Security has fact checked his lies.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/12/us/p ... e=Homepage


What Trump is trying to do is the equivalent of trailing 5-2 with ten seconds on the clock, calling a time out and demanding that the game remain stopped until the control room has reviewed all five goals of your opponent, hoping they will overturn three so you can make it into overtime.... :roll:

I mean, no, it's not going to happen.
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Technically Biden is not the president elect until the electoral college has voted, but traditionally, the losing candidates concede as soon as the outcome is clear. Yet, of course, it is well known that narcissists can never admit failure, so we will have to live with this charade until someone in the GOP finally dares tell him off and say enough is enough.

I mean, it's over. Every one knows that the results will not be overturned.
There is not a shred of evidence that the election has been manipulated.
I mean, if it were, why did the GOP do so well in the House and Senate races?


German chancellor Angela Merckel, a conservative, has congratulated Biden on his victory.
British prime minister Boris Johnson, a conservative, has congratulated Biden on his victory.
Pope Francis, head of the Christian church, has congratulated Biden on his victory.
Ursula van der Leyen, a conservative and President of the EU, has congratulated Biden on his victory.

Justin Trudeau of Canada, Emmanuel Macron of France, Scott Morrisson of Australia, Yoshihide Suka of Japan, Pedro Sanchez of Spain, Giuseppe Conte of Italy... pretty much every one ... even extreme right wingers and Trump friends like King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud of Saudi Arabia, Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey and Benyamin Netanyahu of Israel have congratulated Joe Biden on his victory.

Meanwhile Putin and Xi are munching on their pop corn and enjoying the shit show.
They love every minute of this.
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Trump’s solicitation website carries a banner headline that says “OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND” and “CONTRIBUTE NOW.”

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between “Save America,” which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump’s official “recount” committee fund until Trump’s Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

If a Trump donor gave $500, for instance, $300 would go to Trump’s Save America PAC, $200 would to the RNC - and nothing would go to his election defense fund.
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Cornuck wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 5:27 am
Trump’s solicitation website carries a banner headline that says “OFFICIAL ELECTION DEFENSE FUND” and “CONTRIBUTE NOW.”

Scrolling down the page would take a donor to the fine print, which shows that donations are split between “Save America,” which gets 60% of the money, and the RNC, which gets the other 40%. None of the money flows to Trump’s official “recount” committee fund until Trump’s Save America share reaches the legal contribution limit of $5,000, according to the disclosures.

That means that, before a dollar goes into the recount fund, Save America would receive $5,000 and the RNC around $3,300. Donations to the recount committee are legally limited to $2,800.

If a Trump donor gave $500, for instance, $300 would go to Trump’s Save America PAC, $200 would to the RNC - and nothing would go to his election defense fund.
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Strangelove wrote: Thu Nov 12, 2020 11:39 am
Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm
"My orange hero" is the current President of America.

(coup = overthrow)
Sure, "My orange hero" is the current president, but Biden is the president-elect.
If Don Trumpleone does not step down in a timely fashion and hand the keys to Uncle Joe, it amounts to a coup.
Ahh but Biden isn’t the President-elect!

The President-elect is determined in mid-December upon confirmation by the Electoral College and Congress.

As a matter of fact, not a single state has yet even certified its vote count! :wow:

Therefore you and your band of zombies are idiots for saying "My orange hero" is trying to bring “a coup”.

Per wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 10:42 pm
Strangelove wrote: Wed Nov 11, 2020 7:45 pm It would be more sensible to suggest Biden & Co. are attempting a coup.
:lol:

Why would he attempt a coup? He already won, remember?
No one has won this election yet, remember?

Fucking zombies! :lol:

UPDATE:

Per wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:14 am Technically Biden is not the president elect until the electoral college has voted
He finally admits Biden is not PedophilePresident-elect and that talk about a "coup" by Trump is tarded talk! :wow:

Shouldn't I get some kind of award for getting through to one of the zombies?

Yep, he actually admits Freaky Joe has not won this election and that the map at the top of this page is correct.

It's just a matter of time now until I convince him "My orange hero" is the sweetest most wonderful man on the planet. :drink:
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:34 pm
Yep, he actually admits Freaky Joe has not won this election ...
Well, he has won the election, but technically he isn’t named president elect until after the electoral college has voted.

I like my comparisson to a 5-2 lead in a hockey game, with ten seconds on the clock.
Technically you have not won yet, but everyone knows you have won. You’re just waiting for that final whistle.

Oh, and that the idiot coach for the other team is yelling at the refs that they must have the control room review all five goals at this point is just laughable, what a moron! :lol:
...and that the map at the top of this page is correct.
Nah, the map is incorrect. The real standings are Biden 306 - Trump 232.

That Trump is having a hizzy fit and is yelling at the refs does not change anything.
Nothing that he has thrown at the wall is sticking.

Biden is winning big time. We’re just waiting for the final whistle.
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Per wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:01 pm
Strangelove wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 12:34 pm
Yep, he actually admits Freaky Joe has not won this election ...
Well, he has won the election, but technically he isn’t named president elect until after the electoral college has voted.
Per proves once again that zombies and logic don't mix.

The electoral college decides who won the election.

That will happen a month from now.

At this point in time the map at the top of the page is indisputably 100% correct.

Fucking zombies lol...
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Oh, and I just looked up where you got that map....

The Epoch Times, run by Falun Gong! Image

Failed Fact Checks:
  • Jack Andraka, 15, came up with a “100 percent accurate” cancer-detection method that was “168 times faster, 26,000 times less expensive, and 400 times more sensitive” than current methods. – False
  • Dubious Posts Tie Political Families to Ukraine Work – False
  • No, Yellowstone volcano’s eruption threat level did not increase in 2018 – False (Corrected)
  • Concerned artificial intelligence researchers hurriedly abandoned an experimental chatbot program after they realized that the bots were inventing their own language. – False
  • Did China’s Communist government create the novel coronavirus in a laboratory and release it into the world as a deadly bioweapon? – False
  • President Donald Trump has 232 electoral votes, Joe Biden has 212, 226 or 227.False
Further, the Epoch Times has a section called Beyond Science that publishes pseudoscience news, such as Supernormal Abilities Developed Through Meditation: Dr. Dean Radin Discusses. Finally, the above referenced NBC News report states “In addition to claims that alien abductions are real and the drug epidemic was engineered by the “deep state,” the channel pushes the QAnon conspiracy theory, which falsely posits that the same “Spygate” cabal is a front for a global pedophile ring being taken down by Trump.

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right Biased and Questionable based on the publication of pseudoscience and the promotion of propaganda and conspiracy theories as well as numerous failed fact checks. (M. Huitsing 8/21/2017) (Updated 11/13/2020)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-epoch-times/



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^Sure, but the map at the top of this page is indisputably 100% correct.
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:10 pm
At this point in time the map at the top of the page is indisputably 100% correct.
Nope. As if that isn’t obvious simply from the fact that you had to copy it from a kooky conspiracy site that was running some 600 fake facebook accounts that have now been shut down. :roll:

Biden has 306 electors at present.

The courts are throwing out Don Trumpleone’s frivolous law suits faster than the speed of light.
That he is trying to make shit up does not change that Biden has won all those electors.

As I said, it’s like a team trailing 5-2 with 10 seconds on the clock suddenly demanding that all five goals the other team scored be reviewed. It’s just stupid. It won’t have any impact on the outcome of the game.

It just proves that Don Trumpleone has no honour, no decency and does not know when to fold,

It makes the USA look bad, but I guess whatever makes Vlad happy, right...? :wink:
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Look, even Faux News has Biden at 290 (they still haven’t added Georgia, probably waiting for the recount, but Biden will get those 16 electors too).

https://www.foxnews.com/elections/2020/general-results
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Per wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:59 pm Biden has 306 electors at present.
Neither Biden nor Trump have any electors at present.

The map is indisputably 100% correct.
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Strangelove wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:10 pm
Per wrote: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:59 pm Biden has 306 electors at present.
Neither Biden nor Trump have any electors at present.

The map is indisputably 100% correct.
No, all the gray states should be blue. They are “projected Biden wins”. Two of them not even close.

Add the symbols if you like, but there are no real law suits going on. Just Trump throwing things at the wall to see if anything sticks. Listening to the judges chastising Trump’s lawyers is actually rather amusing. You can tell the judges are angry at these idiots wasting their time. :lol:

Doc, seriously, why do you think you have to go to a dodgy site run by some Chinese religious cult to find this map?

Think hard. You used to be pretty smart. I think you can still figure it out.
No real news agency presents the situation like this. Only some freaky Chinese cult supporting Qanon conspiracy theories.
But I guess you think they have a “better grasp” of the situation? :roll:

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