Trade rumours & armchair pipe dreams 19-20 Sponsored by SKYO

[Carl Yagro]

OEL's contract is going to make Loui's look like Super Valu.

We need RHDs. Coyotes don't want salary back. We have no 1st round pick and that's what they want in a trade. We still need to dump Loui & Sutter.

Horrible rumor-mongering.

[SKYO]

Wonder if there's a 3-way deal to be had between Arizona, Boston and Vancouver?

Boston and Vancouver were supposedly in heavy trade talks.

Boston gets: Ekman-Larsson, Jake Virtanen.

Arizona gets: Stecher, Lind, Vaakanainen, Grzelcyk, Boston 2021 1st.

Vancouver gets: Carlo, Ritchie.


Bruins get the best player in the deal, with a OEL-McAvoy top pairing that's contender status.

[Cousin Strawberry]

Okay it is Elliotte Freakman, I mean Friedman

Elliotte Friedman
@FriedgeHNIC
Ekman-Larsson's list (for now) is believed to include BOS & VAN. Things can always change.

Edmonton is reportedly not on OEL’s list.
Dreger said OEL talks are heating up, too. If Dreger has any credibility left?

Not sure this makes any sense for another left side D-man where the Canucks have cheaper depth, even if Eriksson’s contract goes the other way, which it would have to in order to make this deal work at all. His cap hit is 8,250,000 for 7 more years. The Canucks have Hughes, Rathbone, Juolevi, Edler, and Benn on the left side. Arizona is dumping salary and would probably want a cost controlled D man back, like Rathbone, among other assets. If he played on the right side it would make more sense.

Arizona won’t mind cap hit coming their way, but they have no real dollars to spend. It would be something like:
Hoglander, Rathbone, Eriksson, and picks for OEL. Not sure I’d make that deal.

Their main objective is cut the fat off their salary and rebuild.

For their rebuild, AZ no doubt would want Juolevi for LD to start off, and he's ready to play this upcoming season.

Eriksson contract setup is actually a blessing in that his salary is really low vs cap hit.

OEL salary is 8M, 10.5M, 10.5M, 10.5M, 8M, 5.25M, 5.25M
Eriksson salary is 1M, 4M (done)

Canucks add some other young pieces whatever Bill Armstrong seems fit to help their cause.

Fuck if they've only got Van and boston to deal with we could land him for a serious discount. Think Eriksson, Juolevi and Virtanen kind of discount...

OEL is a game changer. Hes wanted out of that shit show forever and I can see him having a seriously good return to top form if ges happy. Too damn bad hes a left sider but Edler is almost a bottom pairing level piece moving forward.

Still...I can dig this trade too bad its 6more years tho

[Megaterio Llamas]

A big no OEL. His game is declining fast and makes stupid money. Cap hit is $8.25 million until he’s 36, 6 more years. I’d rather resign Tanev at substantially lower dollars. The trade moves the needle slightly if the Yotes take some major contracts off our hands. At his, term in contract, and cap just stay the fuck away

Make that seven more years. OEL just played year one of an eight year deal.

Say it ain't so Jim.

[Meds]

A big no OEL. His game is declining fast and makes stupid money. Cap hit is $8.25 million until he’s 36, 6 more years. I’d rather resign Tanev at substantially lower dollars. The trade moves the needle slightly if the Yotes take some major contracts off our hands. At his, term in contract, and cap just stay the fuck away

Rational post.

There should be no market for OEL in Vancouver unless it is the rumored 3-way deal with Boston where Vancouver sends some dead cap (Eriksson, Baertschi, or Sutter) out and brings something other than OEL in.

[ESQ]

OEL's contract is going to make Loui's look like Super Valu.

We need RHDs. Coyotes don't want salary back. We have no 1st round pick and that's what they want in a trade. We still need to dump Loui & Sutter.

Horrible rumor-mongering.

I'm trying to think of comps for a dman - the first "bad contract" that comes to mind is Shattenkirk, but he was *only $6.65 x 4, and I don't really understand why NYR bought him out (other than to deepen the tank). They basically used that cap space to over-pay on Trouba.

As he showed this past season, he's a fine player, #5 on the Cup champions eating 19 min/night. Its much less of a disaster paying your #5 dman big money than it is to pay your 14th forward big money.

OEL is the 5th-highest Dman cap hit in the league. His contract end is a bit at the younger end, with him being signed to Age 34. Of the $8mil+ defencemen, none of the contracts are looking very good, except Carlson.

Looking at those big-money Dmen, the guy I think I'd target is Weber. He's actually only 3 seasons away from only making $1 mil in base salary, and there's very little chance he'll play beyond that (age 38-40 seasons). Plus we have no worries about him just retiring, because that will only fuck over Nashville

Another guy is Subban - contract is bad, but only one more year. He's a good candidate for a big contract year. Unfortunately, neither Montreal nor New Jersey need cap space, so tough to see them making a favourable deal.

[Meds]

Fuck if they've only got Van and boston to deal with we could land him for a serious discount. Think Eriksson, Juolevi and Virtanen kind of discount...

This is very true.

OEL is a game changer. Hes wanted out of that shit show forever and I can see him having a seriously good return to top form if ges happy. Too damn bad hes a left sider but Edler is almost a bottom pairing level piece moving forward.

This is not.

OEL is going to be 30 next year. He's a left-side guy, and we don't need a $8.25M left-side guy when we will have a home grown one next year in Hughes. Especially considering that OEL has 7 years left on his contract, during the latter part of which he will NOT be an easily moved asset because the lowest real dollar value is $5.25M in the last couple of years.

If our cap structure can afford to bring OEL in for 7 years at $8.25M then we need to get a bit more creative because that means we can afford to bring Pietrangelo in for $9M over the same term.

Hughes $9M - Pietrangelo $9M
Juolevi $2M - Myers $6M
Edler $4M - Rafferty $1M
Fantenberg $2M
Benn $2M

$35M

I'd much prefer that to

Hughes $9M - Tanev $5M
OEL $8.25M - Myers $6M
Edler $4M - Stecher $3M
Fantenberg $2M
Benn $2M

$41.25M

[Cherry Picker]

If they retain 1.25m a year and take Loui and Baertschi the deal including a young D and Jake becomes more palatable.
Don’t know who does the PK on left D if the Canucks run with OEL, Huggy and Rathbone on the left side? They are all offensive guys. Maybe giving up Rathbone instead of Juolevi might be better if Juolevi is better at the PK?

[Strangelove]

Hughes $9M - Pietrangelo $9M
Juolevi $2M - Myers $6M
Edler $4M - Rafferty $1M
Fantenberg $2M
Benn $2M

$35M

I'd much prefer that to

Hughes $9M - Tanev $5M
OEL $8.25M - Myers $6M
Edler $4M - Stecher $3M
Fantenberg $2M
Benn $2M

$41.25M 39.25M

Then drop-kick Stecher outta there in favour of Rafferty at $1M and it's $37.25M

BTW OEL plays both sides, he's been partnered with Edler in international competitions.

But yeahno, I don't wanna trade for OEL and I don't wanna sign Pietro to $9M x 7.

But I'd be okay with signing both Tanev and Barrie to matching $5M x 5 deals.

Along with the obligatory punting of Stecher of course.

Rathbone/Juolevi/Tryamkin/Woo... we're gonna get something out of that bunch down the road.

[Raging Fury]

All these trade rumors about our interest in OEL is making me nervous and upset.

We need cap flexibility, not a choking anchor. Getting that $8.25 x 7 will ensure Petey and Huggy's best years will be wasted.

Please let this be nothing more than a bad dream.....

[Cherry Picker]

Unless they trade for OEL and then flip Huggy Bear to Buffalo straight up for Eichel.
Now that there is some respectable rumourmongering.

[Cousin Strawberry]

But I'd be okay with signing both Tanev and Barrie to matching $5M x 5 deals.

This is clearly the most sensible scenario yet.

I am a big OEL fan and i am quite certain he would be a great addition but the reality is anyone other than Hughes or Pettersson earning over 6 is a bad idea

[Madcombinepilot]

But I'd be okay with signing both Tanev and Barrie to matching $5M x 5 deals.

This is clearly the most sensible scenario yet.

I am a big OEL fan and i am quite certain he would be a great addition but the reality is anyone other than Hughes or Pettersson earning over 6 is a bad idea

THERE IT IS!!!!! common sense has surfaced!!

[Carl Yagro]

I am a big OEL fan and i am quite certain he would be a great addition but the reality is anyone other than Hughes or Pettersson earning over 6 is a bad idea

THERE IT IS!!!!! common sense has surfaced!!

Brownie got social distanced from his dealer. Clearly, he is posting sober and hating life.

[2Fingers]

All these trade rumors about our interest in OEL is making me nervous and upset.

We need cap flexibility, not a choking anchor. Getting that $8.25 x 7 will ensure Petey and Huggy's best years will be wasted.

Please let this be nothing more than a bad dream.....

+1

No more long term contracts for players into their mid 30's. Has this team not already learnt their lesson on this?