Canucks Young Guns

[Curmudgeon]

Myers is top 4 if the bottom pair RHD can actually play with the bottom pair LHD without trust issues and doesn't have to be sheltered with an aging and diminishing Edler.

Actually they both are capable of pretty egregious cough ups and I'd bet at least half the time I yelled at my tv during games this season it was after witnessing one of those two guys turning the puck over. The rest of the time was probably Ericksson obliterating another offensive opportunity. lol

[Blob Mckenzie]

Juolevi is the linchpin that decides where the team goes next year. Hes the affordable option with the highest upside.

All hail the mighty Ollie

Oh and we're gonna need Tanev resigned and another top 4 righty as well

Linchpin.... more like a poppy pin.

ANOTHER top 4 RH shot D man besides Tanev? Where is all this money coming from? Isn’t Myers a top 4 d man?

Myers is, Tanev isn’t anymore.

And yet Tanev is a better player

[Blob Mckenzie]

Kinda depends what team they're on. Our top 4 are Hughes / Tanev / Edler / Myers. As it sits now, that's my order of how good too.

It’s probably most people’s. You might swap Edler and Tanev but they along with Myers are all declining players. Only on this board is Myers seen as anything but a #4 D man.

[dangler]

Kinda depends what team they're on. Our top 4 are Hughes / Tanev / Edler / Myers. As it sits now, that's my order of how good too.

It’s probably most people’s. You might swap Edler and Tanev but they along with Myers are all declining players. Only on this board is Myers seen as anything but a #4 D man.

Hopefully Jimbro can get some more D talent marinating this draft. Heard some media putting Toffolis contract ahead of Tanevs. If they have to replace Tanev on the UFA market they are probably up shit creek

[Blob Mckenzie]

Kinda depends what team they're on. Our top 4 are Hughes / Tanev / Edler / Myers. As it sits now, that's my order of how good too.

It’s probably most people’s. You might swap Edler and Tanev but they along with Myers are all declining players. Only on this board is Myers seen as anything but a #4 D man.

Hopefully Jimbro can get some more D talent marinating this draft. Heard some media putting Toffolis contract ahead of Tanevs. If they have to replace Tanev on the UFA market they are probably up shit creek

Thing is, unless they score a top 20 pick the D men harvested this year will be years away. Look at the crew of misfits the Chef and and gang are spanking to.... Olaf, Cafferty, Brisebois, Tryamkin, Chatfield.... I hesitate to throw Woo and Ratbones on that pile but it’s mostly a pile of shit. I have hope for the latter two. This is why I bagged on Elmer for pissing so many picks into trades.

[Chef Boi RD]

Kinda depends what team they're on. Our top 4 are Hughes / Tanev / Edler / Myers. As it sits now, that's my order of how good too.

It’s probably most people’s. You might swap Edler and Tanev but they along with Myers are all declining players. Only on this board is Myers seen as anything but a #4 D man.

Hopefully Jimbro can get some more D talent marinating this draft. Heard some media putting Toffolis contract ahead of Tanevs. If they have to replace Tanev on the UFA market they are probably up shit creek

Jimbroz priority signing list looks like this:

1) Markstrom UFA
2) Tanev UFA
3) Motte RFA
4) Toffoli UFA
5) Leivo UFA
6) Gaudette RFA
7) Virtanen RFA
8) Stecher RFA

Hearing Jimbro Benning voice his love for Motte and Leivo today combined with him mentioning “young RFA’s” being moved to recoup draft picks and make room for the UFA’s he wants to sign. It really sounds like Jimiminy wants all of Tanev, Markstrom and Toffoli back. If they do get them signed the young RFA’s Jimbrosia keeps speaking of (possibly being moved out) look to me like it’s Stecher and Virtanen. We are too thin at centre to dump Gaudette so to me it’s one of or both of Stecher and Virtanen the two BC born and raised. Sounds like Jimbrah really, really, really likes Motte and Leivo

[Cousin Strawberry]

Juolevi is the linchpin that decides where the team goes next year. Hes the affordable option with the highest upside.

All hail the mighty Ollie

Oh and we're gonna need Tanev resigned and another top 4 righty as well

Linchpin.... more like a poppy pin.

ANOTHER top 4 RH shot D man besides Tanev? Where is all this money coming from? Isn’t Myers a top 4 d man?

Myers is, Tanev isn’t anymore.

And yet Tanev is a better player

Tanev sure looked run down at the end there. He shouldnt be playing that many minutes

[Chef Boi RD]

Myers looked great in the last game.

[Cousin Strawberry]

. If they do get them signed the young RFA’s Jimbrosia keeps speaking of (possibly being moved out) look to me like it’s Stecher and Virtanen. We are too thin at centre to dump Gaudette so to me it’s one of or both of Stecher and Virtanen the two BC born and raised. Sounds like Jimbrah really, really, really likes Motte and Leivo

Its pretty clear who hes flushing.

Leivo coming back i find curious. What did he show Benning that has him thinking like that? Hes kind of a plumber

[Chef Boi RD]

. If they do get them signed the young RFA’s Jimbrosia keeps speaking of (possibly being moved out) look to me like it’s Stecher and Virtanen. We are too thin at centre to dump Gaudette so to me it’s one of or both of Stecher and Virtanen the two BC born and raised. Sounds like Jimbrah really, really, really likes Motte and Leivo

Its pretty clear who hes flushing.

Leivo coming back i find curious. What did he show Benning that has him thinking like that? Hes kind of a plumber

He sounded Joyous when asked for an update on Leivo. I found it peculiar, especially being that he is a UFA. Jim was gushing about Motte and the desire to sign him. So my take from that is he wants Leivo and Motte back. Jim did explain his Tuch comment from yesterday, I didn’t get the sense in his discussion with the Moj and Taylor today that he is completely giving up on Virtanen. Jim loves his size and speed, he sounded mildly disappointed but still on board with Jake. I keep getting the sense with how confident he sounds in Juolevi, Chatfield making the jump that Stecher is this “so called” RFA who will be sacrificed to get the Big 3 UFAs signed. Stecher will be the most expensive of the RFAs to sign, and most likely best chance at recouping a decent draft pick

[Blob Mckenzie]

Myers looked the shits for the most part and took way too many penalties

[Chef Boi RD]

If we get rid of Stecher and Virtanen how many BC’ers ca Americans will there be on the Canucks?

[Carl Yagro]

Tanev sure looked run down at the end there. He shouldnt be playing that many minutes

He shouldn't be blocking that many point-blank shots. It's taken years off of his life. Crazy how he has faced so many right-handed bombs on his side of the ice.

Edler also looked run-down with the years of babysitting that he has done. I want to see him finish his final year here and be done as a Canuck. Hopefully Olli and Rathbone will have supplanted him by then.

Its pretty clear who hes flushing.

Leivo coming back i find curious. What did he show Benning that has him thinking like that? Hes kind of a plumber

He sounded Joyous when asked for an update on Leivo. I found it peculiar, especially being that he is a UFA. Jim was gushing about Motte and the desire to sign him. So my take from that is he wants Leivo and Motte back. Jim did explain his Tuch comment from yesterday, I didn’t get the sense in his discussion with the Moj and Taylor today that he is completely giving up on Virtanen. Jim loves his size and speed, he sounded mildly disappointed but still on board with Jake. I keep getting the sense with how confident he sounds in Juolevi, Chatfield making the jump that Stecher is this “so called” RFA who will be sacrificed to get the Big 3 UFAs signed. Stecher will be the most expensive of the RFAs to sign, and most likely best chance at recouping a decent draft pick

I don't get this either. Green also seems to luv the fuck outta Leivo. Big step backwards to have the epitome of a Leaves-type player if you're trying to reach contender status.

For all the grief that Sutter, Beagle etal gets, at least they do the things that are expected from bottom line players. You don't win 2 rounds and reach a game 7 without that stuff.

[Madcombinepilot]

. If they do get them signed the young RFA’s Jimbrosia keeps speaking of (possibly being moved out) look to me like it’s Stecher and Virtanen. We are too thin at centre to dump Gaudette so to me it’s one of or both of Stecher and Virtanen the two BC born and raised. Sounds like Jimbrah really, really, really likes Motte and Leivo

Its pretty clear who hes flushing.

Leivo coming back i find curious. What did he show Benning that has him thinking like that? Hes kind of a plumber

But at 1.5 million, with all the fancy stats he has, he is our kind of Plumber.

[Meds]

Tanev sure looked run down at the end there. He shouldnt be playing that many minutes

He shouldn't be blocking that many point-blank shots. It's taken years off of his life. Crazy how he has faced so many right-handed bombs on his side of the ice.

Edler also looked run-down with the years of babysitting that he has done. I want to see him finish his final year here and be done as a Canuck. Hopefully Olli and Rathbone will have supplanted him by then.

Its pretty clear who hes flushing.

Leivo coming back i find curious. What did he show Benning that has him thinking like that? Hes kind of a plumber

He sounded Joyous when asked for an update on Leivo. I found it peculiar, especially being that he is a UFA. Jim was gushing about Motte and the desire to sign him. So my take from that is he wants Leivo and Motte back. Jim did explain his Tuch comment from yesterday, I didn’t get the sense in his discussion with the Moj and Taylor today that he is completely giving up on Virtanen. Jim loves his size and speed, he sounded mildly disappointed but still on board with Jake. I keep getting the sense with how confident he sounds in Juolevi, Chatfield making the jump that Stecher is this “so called” RFA who will be sacrificed to get the Big 3 UFAs signed. Stecher will be the most expensive of the RFAs to sign, and most likely best chance at recouping a decent draft pick

I don't get this either. Green also seems to luv the fuck outta Leivo. Big step backwards to have the epitome of a Leaves-type player if you're trying to reach contender status.

For all the grief that Sutter, Beagle etal gets, at least they do the things that are expected from bottom line players. You don't win 2 rounds and reach a game 7 without that stuff.

I don't think it's unreasonable to say that Leivo is a serviceable player in the bottom-6.....who can be had for under $2M. He's also a fairly smart player for someone who would only be getting 10 minutes per game.

I think you have to keep one of Sutter or Beagle.....I'd be more inclined to the latter because he's cheaper and I don't want to listen to the urine crew go on about having a $4.5M 4th line center.

Out.....

Stecher
Eriksson
Sutter
Benn
Pearson
Ferland
Virtanen

That's $23.2M off the books.

Budget the following raises.....not saying give them the entire amount, just plan with a cushion.

Tanev $1.5M
Markstrom $3M
Toffoli $1.5M
Motte $2M
MacEwan $500K
Gaudette $1M

$13.7M left for UFA's.....minus whatever payroll comes back in trades of course (hopefully very little).

I'd be taking a hard look at Hamonic, Gudas, and maybe even Zadorov who plays both sides.

Hughes - Tanev
Edler - Myers
Juolevi - One of those guys

....and we all know that Doyle loves Hamonic.

Pysyk and Montour would also be worth kicking tires on.....the latter being RFA though so harder to make happen.

But I think that all of those guys could be signed for $4.5M or less, and in this cap climate perhaps on shorter terms.

People might think I'm nuts to even entertain the idea of more than $3M on a bottom pairing guy, however I think that the model going forward needs to be a more balanced blueline that has a bottom pairing that can play a bit closer up towards the 20 minute mark and not be a liability.

Most cup winners have that stud, game changing, top blueliner. Carlson, Pietrangelo, Chara, Doughty, Keith.....we might have that in Hughes, we certainly have the PPQB in him. But I'm not totally sold on him being that kind of stud defenseman who is so effective on both ends of the ice, even without the puck.