The best thing Feaster can do is go to the Flames’ owners and tell them, “Guys, this group of players isn’t going to cut it. We have to trade one of our stars for younger talent or draft picks. We have to sell hope instead of hopelessness.”
That means either Jarome Iginla or Miikka Kiprusoff have to go. Perhaps both, if the deals are good.
Mentions how owners don't want to move Iggy because he generates brand recognition. But I think the product is at a point where it needs a serious rebranding. Seen that with the Canucks in the past -- with many teams, in fact.
Many were calling for Stevie Y to be traded from Detroit, he hadn't won a thing. Fans were fed up and it was thought a move would help both he and the team. He did not want to leave. The team went in the right direction with drafting players and creating a structure where players wanted to play. Detroit and Stevie won a couple of cups and he is a hero. So I get why Calgary would want to keep iginla and build around him. I just don't think they have the pieces Detroit did when they took a new direction.
If I were MG though I would be looking to offer a 2nd rounder to get Jackman for my 4th line.
stoneboat wrote:Opinion article in the Globe and Mail that seems to echo Tant's thoughts:
If I were MG though I would be looking to offer a 2nd rounder to get Jackman for my 4th line.
A 2nd round pick for a fourth line pending UFA? That seems like a Burke move.
I'd offer a 5th and negotiate from there. Or perhaps a bubble prospect, but offering a 2nd is a bit desperate.
Hockey Widow wrote:
Kipper would be perfect in Tampa, a great fir for him I think. Iginla would go to NYR and they have the talent to trade for him. I don't know if they can afford the cap though without dumping a ton in return. But there are certainly teams that would make room for him no question.
Since Calgarypuck spoke about "penance" and "karma" the other day (i.e. them being ok with the idea of losing 9-0 to Boston since the B's defeated us in the finals last year), I can't help but revisit those statements. My view?
Calgary, after living vicariously through Boston in June (borderline prostitution), and after watching their team get smoked 9-0 against the B's (borderline prostitution), they then get to watch the Canucks defeat the B's in the very next game.
tantalum wrote:Yep bring on the Panthers. However, I expect a Florida swing let down to tell you the truth.
I anticipate the same thing. I remember way back in 97' after the Wings beat the Avs (in the game where McCarty curb stomped Lemieux), they were flat for the next game or two.
There's three or four of them that are shocked that Canucks fans are crying so much about the Marchand hit. What is sad about this is that I don't think they realize that most of the uproar is coming from outside of Canucks fans.
Apparently Marchand diving, unprovoked, at Salo's knees is the same as Hamhuis flipping someone pot over teakettle with a hipcheck.
Blaster86 wrote:There's three or four of them that are shocked that Canucks fans are crying so much about the Marchand hit. What is sad about this is that I don't think they realize that most of the uproar is coming from outside of Canucks fans.
Apparently Marchand diving, unprovoked, at Salo's knees is the same as Hamhuis flipping someone pot over teakettle with a hipcheck.
That's because the mental giants that think it was clean don't actually know what a hip is. THey think is extends from the balls to the ankles or something.
Oh and congrats to Iginla on #500. Fluky as hell but now at least they can trade him.
Blaster86 wrote:There's three or four of them that are shocked that Canucks fans are crying so much about the Marchand hit. What is sad about this is that I don't think they realize that most of the uproar is coming from outside of Canucks fans.
Apparently Marchand diving, unprovoked, at Salo's knees is the same as Hamhuis flipping someone pot over teakettle with a hipcheck.
A hip-check generally comes when the attacking player has possession of the puck, and is removed from said puck via body (hip) check. Salo was going for Marchand, who was going to gain possession, and instead of going for the puck he took the man, when in a vulnerable position. Dirty hit, that is definitely a 5-minute penalty. And it is at least (if not more) deserving of supplemental discipline. Anyone who thinks otherwise is missing chromosomes (CP??).
Talking about a team that got shitkicked by the Bruins the game previous and their fan base has nothing to cheer about for this season.
I used to give a flying fuck what Flames' fans think about our team or any fan base for that matter, but these days I just "Embrace the Hate"
Screw them! I'm so sick and tired of Calgary's whining how fucking bad the Canucks are but yet this seemingly lucky and bad team is always near the top of the fucking standings.
STFU Flames fans, your fucking team sucks shit and you can't stand that the better city, the better team and the better fans are enjoying a little success.
Fuck off!
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The Flames need to turn the page on the Iginla era. His leadership has failed the last number of years as he is often among the biggest culprit when it comes to effort and lack of buying into systems. It may simply be that the mind is willing but the body isn't for a full 82 game season.
They need to move the stars and get back some young players. The ownership group, however, is a bit of a cluster especially with no tangible leader since Hitchkiss passed. They are too often not all on the same page which leads to things like having Sutter bring in Feaster for help instead of just getting rid of Sutter.
A great trade thread started over at Calpuke. Most of the inbreds have sent the season slagging their players now go see what value they feel some are worth. A 1st and a prospect for Rene the renegade! But it looks like they are throwing in the towel, albeit late, but begrudgingly most seemed to have come to terms with the fact that their team sucks.
Hockey Widow wrote:A great trade thread started over at Calpuke. Most of the inbreds have sent the season slagging their players now go see what value they feel some are worth. A 1st and a prospect for Rene the renegade! But it looks like they are throwing in the towel, albeit late, but begrudgingly most seemed to have come to terms with the fact that their team sucks.
In all honesty, every Flames fan I know has come to that conclusion a long time ago. Everyone I talk to gave up on this group, a couple of years ago. Oh sure, it was nice to see them put up a bit of a run last season, but that didn't mean they were good. They are a mess right now, to say the least. Most of us Flames fans know this, and have come to terms with it. Unfortunately there is no quick fix. This is going to take years to straighten out, and that's assuming that management makes the right moves from here on in. It's a tall order, but that's were they sit. It's sad to say, but a lock out at this point, doesn't look all that bad.
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You can't make this shit up .
