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[Strangelove]

“Climate Change denier”...

Je ne comprends pas? is it not so...yes?

Yeah, I've only told you 4 times directly that you should stop interchanging GW + AGW.

I've only acknowledged twice in this thread that Climate Change has been going on forever.

And yet you continue to brand yours truly a “Climate Change denier”...

OMG your head is getting so far up your ass I'll bet you can taste Father McRapey!

[Strangelove]

You wouldn't be picking sides for fun, would you? It's not as if you enjoy the banter fight, is it?

Okay Mondi, it was a number of years ago, I suppose I could have it wrong.

I distinctly remember you becoming seriously incensed during our palestinan debate however.

I'd like to apologize right now if anything I said in that conversation in any way upset you... accidentally.

Peace on Earth, goodwill to man...

[Mickey107]

I will be chastised, called a fool, be told I don't know anything and on and on about the post that I am going to make right now.

Politically, Donald Trump has "A CLEAN SLATE".

Hillary has a slate and if you took a bulldozer and worked it till it ran out of that nasty stuff we call fuel, you may find that slate, after removing all the soil, dirt, decomposing shredded paper, etc.

Missing the point.

You mean besides the one on the top of your head?

If you mean what I think you mean; Not even close, and still missing the point. Wooooosh!

[Per]

I guess it's possible Trump could win after all:



They've done it before. Ukraine. Crimea. Russia.

And, of course, we all know that Trump has been using the same campaign manager, Paul Manafort, as Yanukovich, the Russian stooge that ran Ukraine before the people took to the streets.....

[ukcanuck]

I will be chastised, called a fool, be told I don't know anything and on and on about the post that I am going to make right now.

Politically, Donald Trump has "A CLEAN SLATE".

Hillary has a slate and if you took a bulldozer and worked it till it ran out of that nasty stuff we call fuel, you may find that slate, after removing all the soil, dirt, decomposing shredded paper, etc.

Missing the point.

You mean besides the one on the top of your head?

If you mean what I think you mean; Not even close, and still missing the point. Wooooosh!

If you think I meant that I think you have a pointy head then yeah- I think the point is over your head

But seriously, I don't really know that you have a point if your saying Trump has a clean slate and Hillary is crooked.

So far all Trump has done is say things that he would do if elected that may be popular with xenophobic and poorly informed middle american voters but are not feasible or in some cases not even legal. My personal favourite is the Mexican Wall. In the first weeks when he announced the wall he was pressed in an interview explain how he figured he would get Mexico to pay for it. I watched as he explained that American automakers had moved factories from Detroit to Mexico and imported cars back into the United States and if Mexico didn't pony up he would just slap a tariff on those vehicles equal to amount needed for the wall...

Even for posters such as ourselves who aren't economists or lawyers can see that would be a violation of NAFTA and be completely unworkable without a withdrawal from that treaty. If you think Brexit was bad for business...we are talking 20 Trillion dollars in trade out the window here.

Can't even imagine the fall out of such a harebrained plan ...

but hey go ahead and vote for the empty slate guy if you can. If it comes to pass I'll know who to blame

[ukcanuck]

BTW Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr, Publisher of NYTimes since 1992 is only half-jewish by birth

... and was raised Episcopalian by his English/Scottish single mom.

Mondi's "pre-history" would be available if the gimp hadn't deleted everything...

More integral to the "brainwashed by the jews" theme though is the fact American Jews are 75% Dems!

So yeah, if they're doing any brainwashing at all... they're brainwashing folks to vote Hillary et al.

Do you mean to tell me I pointed this all out 2 YEARS AGO and you still don't get it?

IF there is a media manipulation to brainwash people into voting for Hillary
IF there is a liberal agenda in the mainstream media to manipulate voters against conservatives
IF there is a liberal hoax on AGW supported by the main stream media
Then its only reasonable to assume the mainstream media would do so to look after their own interests.

So also is the case when it comes to fair and unbiased reporting in the middle east.

It doesn't take rocket science to suggest that the people on the list below would have ethnic, political, cultural and religious reasons to be supportive of the state of Israel. There's nothing wrong with that and I am not resentful in anyway. In fact, aside from the ethnic and religious bit I similarly support Canada and I even did so when Harper had us bombing a sovereign nation without declaring war. (prick that he is..)

but I'm not blind to the fact, living in the Middle east the past three years as I have, hearing and seeing with my own eyes and comparing what I read and hear from people back home that 2+2 does not equal 4 when it comes to the story told of the Palestinian plight.

Is it some huge conspiracy? I don't know but it does sound very human.


However,

You cannot have it both ways either the people on this list have the power to manipulate the media or they do not. you cannot choose which ones you like and ignore the rest.


BTW this list comes from

http://www.simpletoremember.com/article ... hollywood/

a judaism online source. NOT from some hate mongering neo-nazi white supremacist radio talk show based in Florida



...
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.

LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner

NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News

JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC

DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, “world’s biggest media giant” (Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.

MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the World (Jewish mother)

MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS

DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS

JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS

DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS

SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment

LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment

BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.

SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of Paramount Pictures’ Motion Picture Group.

HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.

BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.

PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch’s News. Corp., owner of Fox TV

MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his “mentor.”

ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe and other publications.

WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.

CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post. Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring “anti-Israel media.”

RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post

JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe

NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers, appointed by Clinton.

ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya’s press secretary.

STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet’s first choice as an expert on domestic terrorism.

DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times network of “alternative weeklies.”

DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund

KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker

BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal Entertainment

KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch

RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer and Bill O’Reilly.

TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.

MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL

WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL- TimeWarner

JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment

JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2

SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment

GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment

STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks

DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks

LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment

JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment

MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC’s “Good Morning Miami”

HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America

AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures

JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann’s American operations

ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications

BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment

IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications

WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN’s Late Edition

LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live

TED KOPPEL, host of ABC’s Nightline

ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter

PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host

MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes

BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC’s 20-20

MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review

BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week

DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of

CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post

HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek

WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)

RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle

PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,

RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)

MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets

MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations

DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has Israeli flag on his home page.

BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.

ANDREW LACK, president of NBC

DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins

DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker

NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York

HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker

SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications, includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group, includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement; American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.

DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.

PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron’s

RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.

LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group

[ukcanuck]

You wouldn't be picking sides for fun, would you? It's not as if you enjoy the banter fight, is it?

Okay Mondi, it was a number of years ago, I suppose I could have it wrong.

I distinctly remember you becoming seriously incensed during our palestinan debate however.

I'd like to apologize right now if anything I said in that conversation in any way upset you... accidentally.

Peace on Earth, goodwill to man...

We don't have to rehash the distant past. I think you're a swell guy. Thanks for the kind words

haha you don't have to rehash the distant past but doc does on a regular basis

[Mickey107]

I will be chastised, called a fool, be told I don't know anything and on and on about the post that I am going to make right now.

Politically, Donald Trump has "A CLEAN SLATE".

Hillary has a slate and if you took a bulldozer and worked it till it ran out of that nasty stuff we call fuel, you may find that slate, after removing all the soil, dirt, decomposing shredded paper, etc.

Missing the point.

You mean besides the one on the top of your head?

If you mean what I think you mean; Not even close, and still missing the point. Wooooosh!

If you think I meant that I think you have a pointy head then yeah- I think the point is over your head

But seriously, I don't really know that you have a point if your saying Trump has a clean slate and Hillary is crooked.

So far all Trump has done is say things that he would do if elected that may be popular with xenophobic and poorly informed middle american voters but are not feasible or in some cases not even legal. My personal favourite is the Mexican Wall. In the first weeks when he announced the wall he was pressed in an interview explain how he figured he would get Mexico to pay for it. I watched as he explained that American automakers had moved factories from Detroit to Mexico and imported cars back into the United States and if Mexico didn't pony up he would just slap a tariff on those vehicles equal to amount needed for the wall...

Even for posters such as ourselves who aren't economists or lawyers can see that would be a violation of NAFTA and be completely unworkable without a withdrawal from that treaty. If you think Brexit was bad for business...we are talking 20 Trillion dollars in trade out the window here.

Can't even imagine the fall out of such a harebrained plan ...

but hey go ahead and vote for the empty slate guy if you can. If it comes to pass I'll know who to blame

The sky won't fall if he was to be elected. Once there he would have advisors every step of the way.
There are protocols and safeguards in place and NO president can do whatever they want on a whim.
Does he say silly thing? Of coarse. Does he say things for ultra effect? Even more. Does he get too rattled by the media? You bet.
It's a strange choice for sure, but he has put his neck on the line. Just the fact the poles are still close has to say people want change.
Clinton has issues, not just recently but for a long time, but it isn't just that.
In 1979, 1980, (the last of the Carter regime), the US looked weak and vulnerable in the eyes of the world.
the "Balance of Power" was almost lost. Now you can hate that phrase all you want but IMO, history shows it has to be there to keep us all there, so to speak.
I don't think I'm the only one that feels this is very nearly the case again and there are more issues now than then.
I am not a right extremist or a war nut. Not a religious fanatic or anything close to a KKK idiot.
IMO, the US is falling behind, (the space program is a mess), in many aspects in regards to being a "Super Power".
That doesn't just mean militarily.
In order for this all to work the best it can, the US needs to be a strong voice that is taken seriously.
Clinton will cause a further decline. Status Quo! She won't do much......weaker & weaker...

[Topper]

I just circumcised myself.

[griz]

If you think Brexit was bad for business...

Brexit has been bad for business? That's not what Nigel Farage is claiming...



Brexit can turn out to be a huge success :

[Strangelove]

I don't know about you but I pointed out that the New York Times has been owned by the same Jewish family since 1896 and I posted a university study claiming that the paper is soft on Israel's actions in Palestine and overly harsh on Palestine attempts to free itself from occupation.

So yeah, from that Doc tars me as the 90 percent Jewish media conspiracy guy ...

A very Christian Zionist thing to do wouldn't you say ?

Well of course you deny it in the light of day, but in the passion of the moment you let things slip:

You are completely out of touch with reality and should avoid any/all Israeli–Palestinian debates.

Don't sweat it though, a lot of hardcore leftists become paranoid & delusional over time.

Just the way she goes....

Israel is monitored very closely in these matters.

They warn palestinian citizens where needed/possible, they are famous for this...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wor ... ut-to-bomb

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/20 ... ass-threat

http://jcpa.org/article/hamas-israel-co ... al-points/

I could offer up thousands of links.

Google is your friend.

Jewish owned newspapers and clearly biased voices

You accept what you accept because it falls in line with what you already believe.

I do the same.

You'd be surprised to learn that some of us actually pride ourselves on discerning the truth.

As a matter of fact, we consider anything less to be uncivilized.

Hard to believe you're a teacher.

UK: "Kids, burn your history books and just believe whatever you want to believe."

Is Israel included in your geography text books over there?

Thanks for finally admitting you choose to believe any/all unsubstantiated negative crap about Israel at face value.

And ignore anything positive about Israel no matter how well documented.

Well documented?

It doesn't make something well documented if it's reported over and over in a syndicated newspaper

The New York Times is wholly owned by a Jewish family who are clearly apart of the established jewish dominated media community in North America.

The same interest group that has funded american geopolitics for the last hundred or so years.

The same interest group that cut its teeth in propaganda in two world wars

There's more where that came from.

It doesn't take rocket science to suggest that the people on the list below would have ethnic, political, cultural and religious reasons to be supportive of the state of Israel.

LOFL... forced him to admit it!

I see a pattern here:

- pretend to be neutral on a position (eg. GW/AGW... Hilly/Don... Jewish-conspiracy/no-Jewish-conspiracy)

- give true position away accidentally

- get called on it by yours truly

- VEHEMENTLY deny it

- eventually forced out of the closet

- go on a mad endless cut-n-paste crusade to muddy the waters



They have words for people like you, but being the gentleman I am, I'm not gonna go there...

[ukcanuck]

LOFL... forced him to admit it!

I see a pattern here:

- pretend to be neutral on a position (eg. GW/AGW... Hilly/Don... Jewish-conspiracy/no-Jewish-conspiracy)

- give true position away accidentally

- get called on it by yours truly

- VEHEMENTLY deny it

- eventually forced out of the closet

- go on a mad endless cut-n-paste crusade to muddy the waters



They have words for people like you, but being the gentleman I am, I'm not gonna go there...

haha thats pretty funny doc

Never mind the miles of posts, points, links and logical argument you systematically ignore because you cannot offer one shred of reasonable response ...


go on a cut and paste crusade ? thats the best one yet coming from you.


I wish I had enough time to figure out how to post that meme that says arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon.

no matter how well you do the bird just shits on the board and struts around like it won anyway

[Strangelove]

haha thats pretty funny doc

It's funny because it's TRUE.

[Strangelove]

I just circumcised myself.

Great, but remember: With great power comes great responsibility.

[ukcanuck]

haha thats pretty funny doc

It's funny because it's TRUE.

whats funny is how you've managed to steer the conversation away from AGW where you were failing miserably
to Hillary and rapists, where I slammed your bullshit so hard all I got back was a whimpering "yeah? well I didn't like her tone"

to finally dredging up another conversation held two years ago in order to combine them as if the were one. all so you can simultaneously launch an ad hominem attack and distract the people at home from your complete bankruptcy on the issues.


I've watched you do this countless times over the years going all the way back to central.

lucky for you no one has the time to spend pouring over your posts

I seem to remember a conspiracy thread at old central that could be mined for nuggets