Around the league (signings, RFAs injuries)

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SKYO wrote: or be real ruthless and offer $8.5M per (he's worth that imo), mortgaging your future for a young 23 year old uberstar winger, as he's a game breaker in the playoffs avg. a point per game, a goal every other game.
Tampa takes your four draft picks and runs. Especially with where the Canucks are likely to be picking over the next 2 drafts.

You think Kucherov is on the same level as a Jamie Benn?
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Brad Richards retires.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
SKYO wrote: or be real ruthless and offer $8.5M per (he's worth that imo), mortgaging your future for a young 23 year old uberstar winger, as he's a game breaker in the playoffs avg. a point per game, a goal every other game.
Tampa takes your four draft picks and runs. Especially with where the Canucks are likely to be picking over the next 2 drafts.

You think Kucherov is on the same level as a Jamie Benn?
Not comparing 23 yr old Kucherov to 27 yr old $9.5M Benn, but the better comparison is $10.5M per P. Kane.

Kucherov playoff performances the past two seasons for a young guy is Patrick Kane like.

Patrick Kane:
2015 23gp - 11g - 12a - 23pts
2014 19gp - 8g - 12a - 20pts
2013 23gp - 9g - 10a - 19pts

Nikita Kucherov:
2016: 17gp - 11g - 8a - 19pts
2015: 26gp - 10g - 12a - 22pts

His playoff performances along with steady regular season, should put Kuch inline with $8M per pretty easily, if not more.
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Sample sizes are fun. How does an $8.5M Kucherov showcase his playoff talent playing for a (generous over the next couple years) 7-14 game Canucks team?
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Why say sample sizes.

Kucherov over his last two playoff stretches is hardly a sample size, more of a demonstration of his consistent ability.

Any team adding a Kucherov to their arsenal would obviously be a huge boost from regular season to the playoffs.
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SKYO wrote: Any team adding a Kucherov to their arsenal would obviously be a huge boost from regular season to the playoffs.
If he came as a UFA, sure, it's just money. Giving up two 1sts, a 2nd and a third for him on top of $8.5M per would be insane. Doubly so for a team like Vancouver who are likely looking at top-10 picks for the next couple seasons.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
SKYO wrote: Any team adding a Kucherov to their arsenal would obviously be a huge boost from regular season to the playoffs.
If he came as a UFA, sure, it's just money. Giving up two 1sts, a 2nd and a third for him on top of $8.5M per would be insane. Doubly so for a team like Vancouver who are likely looking at top-10 picks for the next couple seasons.
Yes the Canucks are in no position to give up multiple 1st's.

The team I can see do this though is the Rangers, classic NYR style.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:Brad Richards retires.
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What's the latest on SKYO's trades?
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RoyalDude wrote:What's the latest on SKYO's trades?
ah summernights dude.

everything slow af.

everyone waiting for toronto to shed salary so they can sign Russell, dominoe's drop
Boom Shattenkirk dealt to NYR then:
Bishop to Dallas
Kane to Vancouver
Hartnell to Boston
Fowler to Toronto
JVR to Ananheim.

hudler, pirri signings

vrbata thinks he's still worth $5Mper :o he scampers off to europe.
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Leaves sign Matthews to his ELC. Guess what? He got the max.

Leaf executives indeed had to step in to get this done. Once the leaves capitulated the deal was done, no fuss, no mess. Once again Lou looks real dumb in all of this.
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And have you ever noticed that Lou's eyes are real far apart? Just like Ovetchkin and his MOM!!
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Hockey Widow wrote:Leaves sign Matthews to his ELC. Guess what? He got the max.

Leaf executives indeed had to step in to get this done. Once the leaves capitulated the deal was done, no fuss, no mess. Once again Lou looks real dumb in all of this.
No surprise there, Lou in Toronto can't hide from his old school ways.
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“We do not have any individual bonuses in any player’s contract and never had it including our picks that we’ve drafted over the years. This was established after a couple of years that I came (to New Jersey). I saw something that in my mind is not team-first philosophy when players have bonuses that if they score goals, they get more money, or if they get more ice time than another player, they get more money.

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Hockey Widow wrote:Leaves sign Matthews to his ELC. Guess what? He got the max.

Leaf executives indeed had to step in to get this done. Once the leaves capitulated the deal was done, no fuss, no mess. Once again Lou looks real dumb in all of this.
Ah yes, those of us here who were mocking Lou said he'd be forced to compromise his "principles".

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Hockey Widow wrote:Leaves sign Matthews to his ELC. Guess what? He got the max.

Leaf executives indeed had to step in to get this done. Once the leaves capitulated the deal was done, no fuss, no mess. Once again Lou looks real dumb in all of this.
Part of me, a big part, hopes he only turns into a 50 point player. I will laugh every time the Nucks play them.
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