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Interesting NHL Edge stats on EP40, especially on his shooting.

https://www.canucksdaily.com/nhl-team/v ... cs-say-yes
Last season, Pettersson clocked a season-high skating speed of 22.4 miles per hour and registered 111 bursts over 20 mph including three over 22 mph. His hardest shot was 97.67 miles per hour, with 15 of them topping 90 mph mark. Compare that to the first nine games of this season when Pettersson's top skating speed was measured at 21.7 mph and his hardest shot has been 82.9 mph - the only shot over 80 so far this - Canucks Army
I know some ppl think we should trade Petey, but I dunno. I always liked him and I think he's clearly better than his current performance, but it's a tough call. I do remember just last season everyone thought we should trade Brockstar6. The saying was Brock was too slow, a papa's boy (too mentally fragile with the death of Duke), and not dedicated enough to the game/profession. Now, Brock is clearly our best and most consistent goal scorer and we would have sold low on him with a minimal return. The 2 situations do draw some eerily similar comparisons.
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Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:05 pm Interesting NHL Edge stats on EP40, especially on his shooting.

https://www.canucksdaily.com/nhl-team/v ... cs-say-yes
Last season, Pettersson clocked a season-high skating speed of 22.4 miles per hour and registered 111 bursts over 20 mph including three over 22 mph. His hardest shot was 97.67 miles per hour, with 15 of them topping 90 mph mark. Compare that to the first nine games of this season when Pettersson's top skating speed was measured at 21.7 mph and his hardest shot has been 82.9 mph - the only shot over 80 so far this - Canucks Army
I know some ppl think we should trade Petey, but I dunno. I always liked him and I think he's clearly better than his current performance, but it's a tough call. I do remember just last season everyone thought we should trade Brockstar6. The saying was Brock was too slow, a papa's boy (too mentally fragile with the death of Duke), and not dedicated enough to the game/profession. Now, Brock is clearly our best and most consistent goal scorer and we would have sold low on him with a minimal return. The 2 situations do draw some eerily similar comparisons.
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Could Peter be struggling with Seasonal Affective Disorder due to Vancouver's extreme lack of sunlight in the winter months? Perhaps Peter's body is producing too much melatonin due to Vancouver's short, rainy, overcast days during the hockey season. Maybe the excess melatonin is causing mental and physical sluggishness.

If it does turn out to be SAD, then light therapy could be a short term remedy. But realistically, a trade would the only practical long term solution.
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Nils Aman clears waivers. We dodged a bullet.😎
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:24 pm Could Peter be struggling with Seasonal Affective Disorder due to Vancouver's extreme lack of sunlight in the winter months? Perhaps Peter's body is producing too much melatonin due to Vancouver's short, rainy, overcast days during the hockey season. Maybe the excess melatonin is causing mental and physical sluggishness.

If it does turn out to be SAD, then light therapy could be a short term remedy. But realistically, a trade would the only practical long term solution.
He's from fucking Sweden Megs.....they are further north than we are. Lack of sunlight in the winter should be nothing new.
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:09 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:24 pm Could Peter be struggling with Seasonal Affective Disorder due to Vancouver's extreme lack of sunlight in the winter months? Perhaps Peter's body is producing too much melatonin due to Vancouver's short, rainy, overcast days during the hockey season. Maybe the excess melatonin is causing mental and physical sluggishness.

If it does turn out to be SAD, then light therapy could be a short term remedy. But realistically, a trade would the only practical long term solution.
He's from fucking Sweden Megs.....they are further north than we are. Lack of sunlight in the winter should be nothing new.
I know Mëds, but Swedes are a depressive bunch anyway aren't they? Maybe our young Perter just suffers more than most from it.

We know he's a sensitive young man to begin with.
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Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:18 pm
Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:09 pm
Megaterio Llamas wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:24 pm Could Peter be struggling with Seasonal Affective Disorder due to Vancouver's extreme lack of sunlight in the winter months? Perhaps Peter's body is producing too much melatonin due to Vancouver's short, rainy, overcast days during the hockey season. Maybe the excess melatonin is causing mental and physical sluggishness.

If it does turn out to be SAD, then light therapy could be a short term remedy. But realistically, a trade would the only practical long term solution.
He's from fucking Sweden Megs.....they are further north than we are. Lack of sunlight in the winter should be nothing new.
I know Mëds, but Swedes are a depressive bunch anyway aren't they? Maybe our young Perter just suffers more than most from it.

We know he's a sensitive young man to begin with.
True.

I just can't figure out why everyone wants to bend over and coddle this guy. He's not a kid.

He's almost 26 and guaranteed to make more money in a single season than most of us will make in a 40 year career.
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Perspective:

The Canucks are 5-2-3, off to a 107 point pace in their first ten games. In the past 7 games, they are 5-1-1.

The Canucks are doing this without their Vezina finalist caliber goaltender. Lankinen's been good, of course, but the Canucks have the 7th worst save percentage in the league.

The Canucks are doing with subpar contributions from important players.

EP40 came into the year a point a game player (a shade better) over the course of his career. He has 4 points, and had provided little value. But the track record for quality play is there.

DeBrusk was brought in to improve the top 6 and provide a North American style approach; he's done neither. But the track record that he can do so is there.

100 point scorer J.T. Miller has been held off the score sheet in half the games, seems to be missing a gear/still revving up (after a let's-be-honest-something's-nagging preseason), and making many "bad JT" plays (that we now understandably give him a pass on because we know they will work when the timing starts clicking).

The Canucks are doing this with a 50% turnover in a D core that seems very much to be a work in progress.

But a few things seem to be going very right.

First, the penalty kill looks improved. New personnel acquired in part for the role, have done the role.

Second, shot suppression is very good. The team defense is struggling a bit with rush chances against and transitioning out of the zone, but the "half court" defense has been good overall.

Third, the team is deeper. Gone are the days where a line is on the ice with no role other than to hopefully get the other players another 40 seconds of rest.

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The technical problems with the team's play/approach have been identified by a competent coaching staff.

The individual indiosyncrasies with players are what they are -- some we will see whether coaching and familiarity will improve (e.g., Sprong, Desharnais), some it's likely more of a matter of working out of a funk (EP40, DeBrusk).

But what a luxury it is to have a group that can be in 8 of the 10 games, get 13 of 20 points, and still have so much room for growth and improvement and not getting those points from a player or two who is playing out of their head. The best player vs. individual expectation has probably been Lankinen, but there's no way this "goaltending" is better than if Demko were healthy.

Its not a start to be comfortable with -- that's a great thing about Tockey hockey -- there's always a little more, whether it from the players or from the coach and his staff -- always aiming better. But how nice it is to have *this* team to complain about.
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Agreed. The team has warts right now, but they're not putting themselves behind the eight-ball standings-wise and the warts will likely iron themselves out before too long. Miller's nagging condition is a concern, but hopefully rest and time with the training/medical staff will get him back in shape before Christmas. Once Joshua gets back into the lineup and up to speed, they'll be even deeper and Tocchet will have more options.

It could be worse. Look at the Preds and Avs. Both should turn their ship around eventually, but imagine cheering for them right now?
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UWSaint wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:06 am Perspective:
Appreciate this post UW, have to say it's been a depressing season so far for me and this helps bring some positivity to it.
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UWSaint wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:06 am Perspective:
All true, and a great reminder of what we have here.

I think for most of us, we got spoiled last year when the team exploded out of the gate. Our goal difference was unreal, and we looked good in the wins.

This year, we're getting the points, and progress is coming slowing, and our wins are little uglier, or involving a 10 minute push to get the W.

I'm not panicking just yet, but my expectations for another exciting year like last season are tempered. BUT - that could be a good thing if they pace themselves for the playoffs. (which is what they're doing, right? :D )
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Lancer wrote: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:20 am It could be worse. Look at the Preds and Avs. Both should turn their ship around eventually, but imagine cheering for them right now?
That's another "perspective" -- imagine you are fan of those clubs.

For the Preds, I think it would be easy to write a "perspectives" post that says "don't panic." They've had mediocre goaltending from a consistently decent goaltender and have been quote unlucky turning shots into goals. They aren't going to shoot at 7.5% going forward. They aren't going to have a sub 90 save percentage. The ice isn't as tilted as the record, and their special teams have been good; its just adjusting the 5 on 5 play. You have some good/great players who are off to slow starts, but they should pick it up unless they hit a cliff (and that's always a concern when you add older guys -- at some point, there's no more juice.)

For the Avalanche, my finger would be closer to the panic button. They haven't beaten a team this year that made the playoffs last year. They've been bleeding depth for years and its catching up -- exposed further by the injuries they knew about (Landeskog), the suspension they can't really plan around (Nichuskin), and injuries to two guys who might provide a little bit secondary scoring/playmaking (Drouin, Colton). In one way, knowing some of these players will be back is a positive, but in others, its a sign of fragility.

Their best players are playing great -- they can't expect to get more from Mackinnon, Makar, or Rantanen. Their primary support players are playing well, too (Middlestadt, Colton (before the injury)). But the defense has weakened, and the depth and goaltending parts that are sucking are the parts they knew might suck. All of this looks like deepening cracks that appeared after the cup win, instead of new fissures to be patched. The Avalanche went from no commitments outside the core to lots of commitments, and that has reduced flexibility considerably. With Mackinnon, Makar, and Rantanen, anything's possible. But its just feels like this year is a test of that proposition....
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Mëds wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:27 pm
Todd Bersnoozi wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 5:05 pm Interesting NHL Edge stats on EP40, especially on his shooting.

https://www.canucksdaily.com/nhl-team/v ... cs-say-yes
Last season, Pettersson clocked a season-high skating speed of 22.4 miles per hour and registered 111 bursts over 20 mph including three over 22 mph. His hardest shot was 97.67 miles per hour, with 15 of them topping 90 mph mark. Compare that to the first nine games of this season when Pettersson's top skating speed was measured at 21.7 mph and his hardest shot has been 82.9 mph - the only shot over 80 so far this - Canucks Army
I know some ppl think we should trade Petey, but I dunno. I always liked him and I think he's clearly better than his current performance, but it's a tough call. I do remember just last season everyone thought we should trade Brockstar6. The saying was Brock was too slow, a papa's boy (too mentally fragile with the death of Duke), and not dedicated enough to the game/profession. Now, Brock is clearly our best and most consistent goal scorer and we would have sold low on him with a minimal return. The 2 situations do draw some eerily similar comparisons.
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Hockey Widow wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 9:44 pm Nils Aman clears waivers. We dodged a bullet.😎
And Raty called up.

Potentially, if PewPew Suter stays playing with Garland and Pettersson, Raty can play 4th Line C.. unless Joshua is back, then he might just be a spare part..

This team has needed a healthy Joshua for a few of those losses.. No way Garland should be tilting to spark the team..
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