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Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:36 pm If by taking calls you mean making calls, then yeah.

I know you moved on from his a couple of seasons ago, but I'm not there yet.

I"m not sure what it will take, or when I get to that point, but I hope for the sake of the franchise it doesn't come.

Raile wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:30 am

theman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2024 5:10 pm

Agree. I would probably give it until TDL, if he hasn't sorted itself out I would try to trade him (lay the ground work a few weeks earlier) while other teams think he just needs a change of scenery too and would be willing to go all in to get him.

Below is just and example of a trade:

To Columbus: Petey

To Vancouver: Fantilli, '25 1st, high mid round pick (2nd/3rd), Decent forward and/or 2nd pairing D.

Using Columbus as an example here as they have a lot of cap space now and would probably want to get there hands on a potential franchise player they could market the hell out of for their fan base.

If we decide to trade Petey it's because he never got out of this funk by the time of the trade, and so I would be quite surprised if anyone is giving up those kind of assets for a player who is on 11.6x8 and isn't living up to it. We'd be making a trade first and foremost to get out of that contract.

And if we aren't getting a 1st line center back in return, we might as well start the rebuild again. We have no centers in the system anywhere close to 1st line franchise. Miller might not be good enough this year to be a top line center on a true playoff contender, never mind for years to come.

I would say that Pettersson for Fantilli and a 3rd would Be fair.

Canucks would be gambling that Fantilli can live up to the scouting reports…..To date he has 32 points in 59 games. Vancouver would be surrendering a player who (I must admit) has notched 191 points over the past 162 games (not including 2024-25).

It’s a “change of scenery” trade and I wouldn’t be surprised if Pettersson did bounce back in a market where there is less fan pressure.

The Canucks get the cap space, a top centerman prospect, and a middling pick.

It’s not a sure thing for either team.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:43 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 6:36 pm If by taking calls you mean making calls, then yeah.

I know you moved on from his a couple of seasons ago, but I'm not there yet.

I"m not sure what it will take, or when I get to that point, but I hope for the sake of the franchise it doesn't come.

He’s 25. You either move on now or it will be way harder later. First, There is still good value in the player so long as people believe a change of scenery will reset him. Second, he does not have any trade protection this season, the Canucks can shop him to 31 suitors without needing his permission.

I’m tired of watching this team hang on to players for who the might or should become. If we want a Cup in Vancouver we need to drop this emotional loyalty and not be afraid of moving on because of what could be.


Break it down objectively…..

Great shot.
Good passer.
Great hands.
200 foot High hockey IQ.
Barely above average skating.
Weak on the puck and minimal physicality.
Seems fragile both physically and mentally.

When you consider that item 7 is a big factor in the here and now in the fishbowl that is Canucks hockey, can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

... can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

One word. Potential.

People who know hockey much better than I see it as well.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:52 pm It's been over 50 years of this shit for us, and I'm doing my best to stay positive, but they don't make it easy, do they?

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it!

Stick with it brah, it builds character...

Strangelove wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:38 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 5:52 pm It's been over 50 years of this shit for us, and I'm doing my best to stay positive, but they don't make it easy, do they?

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it!

Stick with it brah, it builds character...

Hardest team in the NHL to love…… doc is right though

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:12 pm

... can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

One word. Potential.

People who know hockey much better than I see it as well.

Potential is something that you should be looking at in an 18-22 year old prospect, not a 25 year old that you just inked to a contract like this.

Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:35 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:12 pm

... can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

One word. Potential.

People who know hockey much better than I see it as well.

Potential is something that you should be looking at in an 18-22 year old prospect, not a 25 year old that you just inked to a contract like this.

How about "potential to rebound"? He's already proven he can play.

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:38 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:35 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:12 pm

... can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

One word. Potential.

People who know hockey much better than I see it as well.

Potential is something that you should be looking at in an 18-22 year old prospect, not a 25 year old that you just inked to a contract like this.

How about "potential to rebound"? He's already proven he can play.

He's more than your average, every day talent. His ceiling is stratospheric. He lays down 100 points seasons even while grossly underperforming for 1/3 of it.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:55 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:38 pm

Mëds wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 9:35 pm

Cornuck wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2024 8:12 pm

... can you answer why you’re so attached to this player?

One word. Potential.

People who know hockey much better than I see it as well.

Potential is something that you should be looking at in an 18-22 year old prospect, not a 25 year old that you just inked to a contract like this.

How about "potential to rebound"? He's already proven he can play.

He's more than your average, every day talent. His ceiling is stratospheric. He lays down 100 points seasons even while grossly underperforming for 1/3 of it.

He has laid down ONE season at 100 points.

He's 25 and already has a 100 pt season under his belt then.

Semantics.

He's an elite talent that can effortlessly score lots of points. This slump is a funk. He WILL come out of it. Nobody thinks he's a 9 goal 35 point player (except maybe you lol)

He's 26 in ten days time.

If he was a tradesman he'd have a few Red Seal years behind him.

If he'd have gone to university, he have graduated a couple of years ago and be well on his way in his chosen career.

Stop thinking he's an awkward adolescent.

He's a grown man.

Yeah....I've never been a big fan of the player from what I've seen which is admittedly less than the majority of the group here.

I believe in the past I have likened him to a whole bunch of Nalsund and not much Forsberg.

I don't like the way he skates and not only is the game faster but the ability to dance on your blades these days seems integral, generally speaking, when assuming high end player status.

The falling down shit is lame.

I agree with Topper here.

He is 26...we should be seeing prime years play not long term funk and moodiness.

Never liked the contract.

Not a 12 million dollar player.

Could not be happier to be proven wrong.

Have big time doubts about that though.

Eddie Lack has been weighing in on the Scooter issue on his X account

Topper wrote: ↑Sat Nov 02, 2024 4:29 pm Eddie Lack has been weighing in on the Scooter issue on his X account

I should say so.

Dude he was responding to was drawing a MacKinnon comparable.

There should be no need to post the rest of Lacks comment.