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Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 1:41 pm Apparently it could be a paper transaction to maximize accrued cap space. I read it goes from 5k/day to 22k/day for the days he's not officially with the big club

UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:01 pm [
As for Baines, he has no place in Vancouver when Joshua returns and he hasn't (in my view) separated himself from the Abby crew enough to make him the no brainer call up when a player is injured and a wing is needed. One of Allvin's observations about not using LTIR to open the season was to increase the flexibility to reward Abby players with coffee cup call ups. For Baines to be a permanent 13th (or 14th) forward, he has to show he matters. He hasn't.

Tciso wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:23 am

UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:01 pm [
As for Baines, he has no place in Vancouver when Joshua returns and he hasn't (in my view) separated himself from the Abby crew enough to make him the no brainer call up when a player is injured and a wing is needed. One of Allvin's observations about not using LTIR to open the season was to increase the flexibility to reward Abby players with coffee cup call ups. For Baines to be a permanent 13th (or 14th) forward, he has to show he matters. He hasn't.

I agree. There is not a lot separating Bains from Sasson, Bloom, Karlsson or Pizza Dude. All are bench warmers at the NHL level, but we might get a 13th forward out of the mess. Pizza was an ok 13th forward, but, Raty has surpassed him in that role, and hopefully Raty becomes a permanent mid 6 guy.

Tciso wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:23 am

UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:01 pm
As for Baines, he has no place in Vancouver when Joshua returns and he hasn't (in my view) separated himself from the Abby crew enough to make him the no brainer call up when a player is injured and a wing is needed. One of Allvin's observations about not using LTIR to open the season was to increase the flexibility to reward Abby players with coffee cup call ups. For Baines to be a permanent 13th (or 14th) forward, he has to show he matters. He hasn't.

I agree. There is not a lot separating Bains from Sasson, Bloom, Karlsson or Pizza Dude. All are bench warmers at the NHL level, but we might get a 13th forward out of the mess. Pizza was an ok 13th forward, but, Raty has surpassed him in that role, and hopefully Raty becomes a permanent mid 6 guy.

The 29-year-old winger is off to a historic start, throwing 44 hits in just six games this season. He leads defenceman Jeremy Lauzon by 10 and the next forward, Ty Kartye, by 15.

Todd Bersnoozi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 5:04 pm Kiefer Sherwood on record-setting NHL hits pace to begin Canucks career

https://canucksarmy.com/news/kiefer-she ... er-canucks

The 29-year-old winger is off to a historic start, throwing 44 hits in just six games this season. He leads defenceman Jeremy Lauzon by 10 and the next forward, Ty Kartye, by 15.

Sherwood turning some heads and getting some luv. Nice to see. He reminds be a bit of Raffi Torres. Maybe not as much of a devastating hitter, but Sherwood luvs to take the body and finish his checks. I think Sherwood is a better 200 ft player though.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 6:59 am So the shoving match between Pettersson and JTM other day...

Apparently JT called him a baby

So the Canucks got their sales done, Pettersson signs eight years, $11.6 million, he’s a Canuck, he’s a great talent. Now, we’re in service. Even though the Canucks signed Pettersson, I think they felt there was another level – or two levels – that they felt they needed to get him to. I think it was felt that as great as he is, they needed him to be tougher. I don’t know if meaner’s the right word, but tougher. Some people are not wired that way. But I think they felt he was wired that way and is wired that way, but they have to encourage him to get there.

And, what I also believe is that they didn’t want it to be up to [Jim] Rutherford or [Patrik] Allvin or [Rick] Tocchet to do it. They really believe in their leadership group; they believe that [Quinn] Hughes is a strong captain, and they believe that Miller is a strong alternate captain and that their group is a strong group. They said, ‘You guys are the ones who have to do it.’ Miller’s obviously taking that very literally. In that practice, I think there’s been talks off the ice, but I think Hughes is involved too. I just think Hughes would take that so seriously, as a responsibility of his. I think you’re insane if you don’t think he’s trying to do that, too.

I think what the Canucks have said to their leadership group is, ‘Elias needs to get to another level, you all see it, and we want you guys to get him there.’ And I think they see it, they understand it, and they’re trying to push him there. I think the message comes harder from some guys – Miller – as opposed to other guys – like Hughes. But I think that’s the goal here. They feel that tough love is the way.

There’s a couple of other things at play. I don’t think he [Pettersson] always likes it. I think they’re hoping he will understand that it’s to make them win, but I don’t think we always likes it. I don’t know how serious it is, but I don’t think he’s 100%. I can’t answer that in terms of what percentage he’s at; I think it’s a factor. The biggest thing I think he feels is, I think a lot of players prefer when the constructive criticism comes down the chain of command, whether it’s management or coach, you don’t always like it when it’s your teammates because your teammates are supposed to have your back.

At the end of the day, the goal here from the Canucks is, if this guy can get a little bit of a thicker skin, he’s going to be unstoppable. We need to push him to be that player. You can’t go too far; there are lines you cannot cross, but this is what the Canuks are really trying to do.

Mëds wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 8:49 pm I liked Bieksa’s comments.

Doesn’t feel it’s his job as a player to motivate his teammates. You are being paid to be there, you motivate yourself.

Madcombinepilot wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 8:50 am

Tciso wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2024 7:23 am

UWSaint wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2024 2:01 pm [
As for Baines, he has no place in Vancouver when Joshua returns and he hasn't (in my view) separated himself from the Abby crew enough to make him the no brainer call up when a player is injured and a wing is needed. One of Allvin's observations about not using LTIR to open the season was to increase the flexibility to reward Abby players with coffee cup call ups. For Baines to be a permanent 13th (or 14th) forward, he has to show he matters. He hasn't.

I agree. There is not a lot separating Bains from Sasson, Bloom, Karlsson or Pizza Dude. All are bench warmers at the NHL level, but we might get a 13th forward out of the mess. Pizza was an ok 13th forward, but, Raty has surpassed him in that role, and hopefully Raty becomes a permanent mid 6 guy.

Bains seems slow at the NHL level. Like he has to think about what he is supposed to do, not act instinctively. His shot is ok, but his first step is slow.

Strangelove wrote: ↑Sat Oct 26, 2024 9:03 pm Great leaders always motivate their teammates.