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rats19 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:29 am

Per wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:03 am So people really think an Arab Muslim nation like Algeria would be championing trans rights?

And the same people who insist that gender assigned at birth is the only thing that matters are demanding that Imane Khelif, born woman, should be forced to transition to male.

From what I understand this is a direct parallell to Caster Semenya. They are both women, but with unusually high testosterone levels. Now, all men and all women have both testosterone and oestrogen, but the levels are different. All people aren’t the same, and on the bell curve of things some women actually have more testosterone than some men. This is usually tough for them, as testosterone tends to give you more male features, and so they are typically found unattractive.

Anyway, I have a hard time understanding why people should be disqualified from sports just because they are better than their opponents. There have been attempts at setting a maximum allowed testosterone level for female athletes, which is why Khelif wasn’t allowed to compete in the world championship, but if you’re not juicing, if this is your natural level, I think that is ludicrous. It is the same thing as having a height limit for basketball players. No one is going to convince me that a seven foot player doesn't have an unfair advantage over a guy who is 5’10”. But we still allow them to play, don’t we?

Amine Khelif and Caster Semenya face a lot of hostility because of how they look and because they are stronger than most other women, but what the hell are they supposed to do about it? For a number of years Semenya was forced to take drugs that would lower her testosterone levels to compete, but she has told that she felt like shit and got all sorts of weird side effects, so she stopped taking them. Both of them were born girls. Should society really force them to transition to male against there own will?

Strange this has not occurred before…with all the years of male/ female categories … just showing up now…must be the food…….

Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:09 pm

Megaterio Llamas wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:14 pm A gold medal hat trick for Summer McIntosh

Disorders of sex development (DSDs) encompass a range of conditions where chromosomal, gonadal, or anatomical sex development is atypical. Some key problems that fall under DSDs include:

Congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH) - This is the most common cause of DSDs, occurring in about 1 in 15,000 births. It results in virilization of 46,XX individuals due to excess androgen production.

Androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS) - This condition causes 46,XY individuals to have female or ambiguous external genitalia due to the body's inability to respond to androgens.

Gonadal dysgenesis - This involves atypical development of the gonads, which may be complete or partial.

Ovotesticular disorder - Individuals have both ovarian and testicular tissue.

5-alpha-reductase deficiency - This inherited condition impairs penis and testes development.

Hypospadias and epispadias - These involve atypical positioning of the urethral opening.

Clitoromegaly - An enlarged clitoris that may resemble a penis.
Undescended testes (cryptorchidism).

Turner syndrome - A condition affecting individuals with 45,X karyotype, causing short stature and atypical pubertal development.

Mayer-Rokitansky-Küster-Hauser (MRKH) syndrome - This results in underdeveloped or absent vagina and uterus.

These conditions can affect chromosomes, gonads, internal reproductive organs, and/or external genitalia, leading to various presentations of atypical sex development.

donlever wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 12:44 pm Ledecky USA 14 Olympic medals 27 y/o 4 games participated in

McIntosh Canada 4 Olympic medals (with one more in Paris possible) 17 y/o 2nd Olmpics participated in

....the American could be caught....

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:46 pm This must be an example of the legendary giant clitoris making an appearance



I wonder if she had the top dropped and everything

5thhorseman wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:06 pm

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 2:46 pm This must be an example of the legendary giant clitoris making an appearance



I wonder if she had the top dropped and everything

So would you do a chick with a penis and a vagina? We needs to know.

Cousin Strawberry wrote: ↑Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:59 pm I have a strict max clitoris size or 3 mm protrusion