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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:00 pm
by UWSaint
5thhorseman wrote: Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:38 pm The problem with this kind of garbage is it legitimises the dehumanization of people who you don't agree with.

One could argue that anyone involved with Project 2025 is unhuman as they are "undoing civilization" by way of dismantling democratic institutions.

Once they're not considered human, then what? It's a slippery slope and the VP candidate should not be lending his name to this crap.
I think that when people see each other as something less than human, it is easier to perpetrate end-justifies-the-means atrocities. But slippery slopes need somewhere to go. There's another necessary component, and that is a belief that humanity is perfectible. If this belief is not the end, you don't
cull the imperfect, or force them to be free in the words of JJ Rousseau. You don't try to remake man.

As an aside, how does Project 2025 propose dismantle democratic institutions? I haven't read the policy paper/book. Any links to the source to back up that claim?

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:15 pm
by Chef Boi RD
donlever wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:07 am Loving the dichotomy between Dude and Toppers assessments of Trumps presser...
Both are very biased. One is more blatant while the other not, I’ll admit Outback Topper’s biased reporting is a clever long drawn out book report, while Jet Boi VD is straight to the point.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:19 pm
by UWSaint
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:08 am Dems are branding Trump as low-energy, saying he has only done 1.5 events per week for the last 6 weeks. That he's hardly even running a campaign.

Meanwhile this week Kamala has scheduled 6 events in 6 states.

Hence Trump's press conference to get back in the spotlight.
I think Trump's presser wasn't to response to "low energy," but to highlight the dichotomy between him and Harris w/r/t answering media questions.

Harris didn't have to campaign for the nomination, and she's banking on people grafting their own beliefs on to what she believes, which is why she's been relatively quiet about what she wants to do with the Presidency. Trump either wants to draw her out or to change the moderate and non-partisan's frame such that they read "bad" into the lack of information from Harris herself. I suspect Trump surrogates will be ramping up many attacks against her prior positions and statements to flush her out to defend or repudiate them. If it is possible to campaign for President of the United States without answering questions about how you'd do the job, well, that's a pretty strange way to "preserve democracy...."

The lack of content coming from the Harris campaign is so absurd I think that even the non-state state media will begin to press a bit on this. So far, all of her support is "I'm not Trump and I'm not Biden either!" But who are you?

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:57 pm
by Topper
donlever wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:07 am Loving the dichotomy between Dude and Toppers assessments of Trumps presser...
Only opinion I offered on Trump's presser;
His narcissism is difficult to wade through but there was plenty of meat to go with the potatoes in what he said. He clearly understood his topics and didn't take the bait on several loaded questions.

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:58 pm
by donlever
My bad.

Omit opinion.

Insert reporting.

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:22 pm
by Topper
UWSaint wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:19 pm
5thhorseman wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:08 am Dems are branding Trump as low-energy, saying he has only done 1.5 events per week for the last 6 weeks. That he's hardly even running a campaign.

Meanwhile this week Kamala has scheduled 6 events in 6 states.

Hence Trump's press conference to get back in the spotlight.
I think Trump's presser wasn't to response to "low energy," but to highlight the dichotomy between him and Harris w/r/t answering media questions.

Harris didn't have to campaign for the nomination, and she's banking on people grafting their own beliefs on to what she believes, which is why she's been relatively quiet about what she wants to do with the Presidency. Trump either wants to draw her out or to change the moderate and non-partisan's frame such that they read "bad" into the lack of information from Harris herself. I suspect Trump surrogates will be ramping up many attacks against her prior positions and statements to flush her out to defend or repudiate them. If it is possible to campaign for President of the United States without answering questions about how you'd do the job, well, that's a pretty strange way to "preserve democracy...."

The lack of content coming from the Harris campaign is so absurd I think that even the non-state state media will begin to press a bit on this. So far, all of her support is "I'm not Trump and I'm not Biden either!" But who are you?
The Dem attempt at branding Trump was a tit for tat at the Trump leaning media that had taken to a daily score card of Kamala's avoidance of the media. News shows were opening with a sign similar to an Lost Time Incident sign at many businesses, detailing the # of days Kamala had avoided the press's questioning.

As UW noted, much of the reason for Trump holding the press conference, I believe on 2 day's notice, was to add spotlight to Kamala's aversion to the press.

It is no different than the Dem's push back on Walz lies about his military service where pundits and Dem politicians, Pelosi was one, asked if Vance had served in combat. Vance never claimed to serve in combat, Walz has claimed he served in combat. Vance did however serve in Iraq when it was deemed a combat zone. No, he was never near any fighting, but he also has never claimed to have been. Walz on the other hand has been caught on video claiming he carried weapons into combat.

Yesterday the left media was calling Vance a stalker endangering the safe space of a woman for walking over to Kamala's press corp on the tarmac of the airport when both planes were there. Didn't Kamala say to great fanfare in a speech a week ago in accusing Trump of avoiding a debate with her, "If you have something to say, say it too my face!" Clearly Vance was trying to do just that. It was a brilliant stunt, and it forced Kamala to take five softballs for the team.

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:33 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
De Grass! It's fate

How the fuck did this jump into the politics thread??? I posted into the Olympics strain

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:48 pm
by Carl Yagro
Quit master-baiting on your mobile and focus on the (other) task in at hand.

Don't jack and drive. Don't jack and post.

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 2:03 pm
by Strangelove
Carl Yagro wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 1:48 pm Quit master-baiting on your mobile and focus on the (other) task in at hand.

Don't jack and drive. Don't jack and post.
Hey man, this is the ERECTION threa.... :look: ... okay, carry on.

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Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2024 10:41 pm
by Topper
Coniving

https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/1 ... trump.html

It was a coup. "i didn't call anyone" .... "everyone was calling me"

!2:00 to 14:00 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14E5S-Abcwk

Democracy

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 7:48 am
by donlever
She's a conniving, evil little snake that one.

Allegedly.

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:49 pm
by BCExpat
Chef Boi RD wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 12:15 pm
donlever wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 11:07 am Loving the dichotomy between Dude and Toppers assessments of Trumps presser...
Both are very biased. One is more blatant while the other not, I’ll admit Outback Topper’s biased reporting is a clever long drawn out book report, while Jet Boi VD is straight to the point.
And wrong :roll:

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:56 pm
by donlever
BCExpat wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:49 pm And wrong :roll:
Right or wrong do not formulate any portion of Dudes operational efforts here BC.

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Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 1:58 pm
by Strangelove
Remember when we used to burn witches?

Ahh, there I go reminiscing again...

Re: US Erection 12 *AND* 16 *AND* 20 *AND* 22 *AND* 24

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2024 4:03 pm
by Cousin Strawberry
Burn the Witch by QOTSA

Wicked tune