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Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:55 am
by Meds
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:54 am
Mëds wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:15 am
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:26 pm Kitimat can support zero tankers. The straits are too narrow, and the waters too rough.
Interestingly the LNG Canada facility in Kitimat, the first such facility of potentially a few, is exporting with tankers usually carrying 175,000 cubic meters of capacity. When you convert that to DWT it is 75,000 metric tonnes.
LNG spills clean themselves up.
But the Douglas channel can support the vessels.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:55 am
by Ronning's Ghost
donlever wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:32 am Vander Zalm.
C'mon, there's plenty of legitimate reasons for a premier to accept $75K in cash in brown paper bag in a parking lot at midnight.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:58 am
by Ronning's Ghost
Mëds wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:55 am
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:54 am
Mëds wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:15 am
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Wed Nov 19, 2025 4:26 pm Kitimat can support zero tankers. The straits are too narrow, and the waters too rough.
Interestingly the LNG Canada facility in Kitimat, the first such facility of potentially a few, is exporting with tankers usually carrying 175,000 cubic meters of capacity. When you convert that to DWT it is 75,000 metric tonnes.
LNG spills clean themselves up.
But the Douglas channel can support the vessels.
OK, I can see that I left a part out that you aren't automatically filling in.

The channel can support zero (full) oil tankers with any reasonable degree of safety. Yes, the vessels physically fit into the space.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:09 pm
by Cornuck
Meanwhile, down south (just for a point of comparison), fascism is alive and thriving.
President Donald Trump on Thursday accused several Democratic lawmakers of “seditious behavior,” calling for them to “be arrested and put on trial” for behavior that, he said, could be “punishable by death.”

The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas or nooses as hate symbols, instead opting to classify them as "potentially divisive"
I'm not sure Canada is anywhere near this level, and I hope it never is.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:38 pm
by Tciso
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:09 pm Meanwhile, down south (just for a point of comparison), fascism is alive and thriving.
President Donald Trump on Thursday accused several Democratic lawmakers of “seditious behavior,” calling for them to “be arrested and put on trial” for behavior that, he said, could be “punishable by death.”

The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas or nooses as hate symbols, instead opting to classify them as "potentially divisive"
I'm not sure Canada is anywhere near this level, and I hope it never is.
I read about the one from Florida. She is accused of lifting $5mil in government grants and using it for her campaign.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:14 pm
by Meds
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:09 pm Meanwhile, down south (just for a point of comparison), fascism is alive and thriving.
President Donald Trump on Thursday accused several Democratic lawmakers of “seditious behavior,” calling for them to “be arrested and put on trial” for behavior that, he said, could be “punishable by death.”

The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas or nooses as hate symbols, instead opting to classify them as "potentially divisive"
I'm not sure Canada is anywhere near this level, and I hope it never is.
Any lawmaker or politician inciting the military to disobey orders is committing sedition.

It is already written into law that military members have the right (and hopefully responsibility) to disobey unlawful orders.

The Coast Guard bit…..WTF is that nonsense about and where in the organization is it coming from?

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:16 pm
by 2Fingers
Ronning's Ghost wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:55 am
donlever wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:32 am Vander Zalm.
C'mon, there's plenty of legitimate reasons for a premier to accept $75K in cash in brown paper bag in a parking lot at midnight.
Or a new outside patio/deck.

https://thetyee.ca/Life/2013/05/13/Glen-Clarks-Deck/

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:18 pm
by 5thhorseman
Tciso wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:38 pm
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:09 pm Meanwhile, down south (just for a point of comparison), fascism is alive and thriving.
President Donald Trump on Thursday accused several Democratic lawmakers of “seditious behavior,” calling for them to “be arrested and put on trial” for behavior that, he said, could be “punishable by death.”

The U.S. Coast Guard will no longer classify swastikas or nooses as hate symbols, instead opting to classify them as "potentially divisive"
I'm not sure Canada is anywhere near this level, and I hope it never is.
I read about the one from Florida. She is accused of lifting $5mil in government grants and using it for her campaign.
Sounds like breaking campaign finance laws and probably fraud. What part is seditious?

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm
by Cornuck
5thhorseman wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:18 pm
Tciso wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 12:38 pm I read about the one from Florida. She is accused of lifting $5mil in government grants and using it for her campaign.
Sounds like breaking campaign finance laws and probably fraud. What part is seditious?
Not to go 'too' off topic, but the $5mil was a Democrat - she'll be charged.

As for TOPOS calling for the death of democrats, all they did was make a video reminding the military that they have the right to refuse illegal orders.

OK - back to Canadian Fascism.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:43 pm
by JelloPuddingPop
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm OK - back to Canadian Fascism.
Or back to a lack of Canadian Fascism perhaps?

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:44 pm
by Cornuck
JelloPuddingPop wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:43 pm
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm OK - back to Canadian Fascism.
Or back to a lack of Canadian Fascism perhaps?
Well, I was going to leave that to you guys living under the boot of the Canadian government.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:50 pm
by JelloPuddingPop
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:44 pm
JelloPuddingPop wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:43 pm
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm OK - back to Canadian Fascism.
Or back to a lack of Canadian Fascism perhaps?
Well, I was going to leave that to you guys living under the boot of the Canadian government.
Ah gotcha,

Certainly, it is a heavy boot. Probably a pair of Doc's Daytons.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:57 pm
by Carl Yagro
JelloPuddingPop wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:50 pm Certainly, it is a heavy boot. Probably a pair of Doc's Daytons.
That still seems better than being under Justin's Prince-ly heels.

The dood even did blackface during his Purple Reign.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:32 pm
by Ronning's Ghost
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm
As for TOPOS calling for the death of democrats, all they did was make a video reminding the military that they have the right obligation to refuse illegal orders.
Though of course, it's supposed work that the higher the rank, the higher the level of accountability.

The Canadian military botched that one in Somalia.

Re: Is Mark Carney sliding towards Fascism?

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2025 3:55 pm
by Meds
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:44 pm
JelloPuddingPop wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:43 pm
Cornuck wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 1:36 pm OK - back to Canadian Fascism.
Or back to a lack of Canadian Fascism perhaps?
Well, I was going to leave that to you guys living under the jackboot of the Canadian government.
Fixed for accuracy.