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Mondi wrote: Bartchee, Granlund, Rodin (likely), Sbisa, Larsson are all place holders and should be jettisoned as soon as possible.
It's hilarious we gave up real assets for some of these scrubs.
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Island Nucklehead wrote:
Mondi wrote: Bartchee, Granlund, Rodin (likely), Sbisa, Larsson are all place holders and should be jettisoned as soon as possible.
It's hilarious we gave up real assets for some of these scrubs.
Boi ole boi batman! Those assets like Shrunk carrot were A--1 assets, devestating
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RoyalDude wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Mondi wrote: Bartchee, Granlund, Rodin (likely), Sbisa, Larsson are all place holders and should be jettisoned as soon as possible.
It's hilarious we gave up real assets for some of these scrubs.
Boi ole boi batman! Those assets like Shrunk carrot were A--1 assets, devestating
Yeah Shinkaruk, a 2nd, a 4th/5th rounder and making Sbisa a key component of the Kesler deal. Brilliance.
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Zack Kassian, the answer to Milan Lucic
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Eventually with every team something will go right, but with jinxes that everyone loves to throw around like even the commentators on Sportsnet and CBC, watch how they spew out a stat and that gets smashed a few seconds later, but I think it's mostly them eye balling an opportunity and they got a good grasp on how things are shaping up on whose playing on fire that night to break whatever streak/record they are just talking about.

Anyways it seems the Canucks are on a mini Oilers streak, not pure tank - but close to it, with the playoff losses to missing the playoffs the past few years, this team seems prime for a 1st overall pick all of sudden.

The most disappointed thing about this team is the players severely under-performing.

Hutton supposed to be a QB type: only has one goal (granted Willie Desjardins wanted his old pal from Dallas performing well in Larsen, so that didn't help).
Hutton and Tanev talking about all the shooting they were going to do this season. :|

Larsen is one of the worst in advanced stats in Canucks country, seriously one of the worst defensively this team has had in awhile, and as you know this defense has been shambles since the better 2011 days.

Sedins showing age and them getting beat up every season hasn't helped. *sadface*

Eriksson is a mystery, but he has shown to be a slow starter.

Horvat should be getting more minutes.

Granlund is solid, at this point he should be racking up 18 minutes TOI, always producing chances.

Baertschi just like Horvat have been slow starters and have been a fire duo in the latter half the season.

With the team in a slump, I'd call up scrappers in LaBate and Pedan.

Fuck it, we gonna lose, why not go down swinging at least protect the Sedins in their last two years here, it's embarrassing that the Sedins have been treated like prison bitches in the yard/ice here.
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Trevor needs to stop fucking around, wake up, smell the coffee, come out and call it how it really is "we are not a team that can compete for the playoffs" and tell the fans, whom may I say, are crying for it - "we are going full rebuild"

We should have hired a miserable guiness pint drinking Irishman for President like a Quinn or a Shanahan instead of the 'Community' Prince in Linden
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Wonder what claude lemieux is doing these days...maybe he can build a franchise :lol:
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Uncle dans leg wrote:Wonder what claude lemieux is doing these days...maybe he can build a franchise :lol:
Bet he could still beat the ---- out of Kadri.
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SKYO wrote: E


Granlund is solid, at this point he should be racking up 18 minutes TOI, always producing chances.
Granlund is a pussy and a whimp, just what this team does not need, more perimeter player who wont take a hit to make a play. One who will not go into the dirty areas. This team is already too soft.
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Mondi wrote:Granlund and Bartschi are pluggers masquerading as 2nd liners on one of the worst editions of the Canucks in the last 25 years.

This team needs to clean house after this season. For now, they are what they are. A very mediocre squad. Probably not as bad a 0-7-1, but almost.
Worst team in 25 years? How old are you? clearly you weren't around for some of those late 90's teams.

It takes time for players to develop and there isn't much of a supporting cast that is ready for primetime. Let's relax and not toss everything out.

I am all for dealing most of the vets who can bring back good returns (Edler, Tanev, Hansen and maybe Miller). You might get something minor for Burr at the deadline. Bottom line: dealing those guys will provide lots of young talent and prospects.

Next year Benning should really deal the Sedins at the deadline for a solid return. Canucks can't methodically plod along anymore. Young talent needs to be infused now because it takes years for most young talent to develop.
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Watching the Jets game tonight, how the hell did Connor go 17th overall? Man does he look good. The Jets have a pretty damn good future, one line Scheiffle, Ehlers and Laine looks very good and another line of Petan and Connor looks gery good and really impressed with Tanevs brother. Half the forwards on the Jets are kids and they look a thousand times better than the Canucks forward group

Last night Nylander makes Virtanen look like shite, tonight watching Ehlers makes Virtanen look even shittier of a choice. I see Fabbri has scored to tonight. Larkin etc., etc., etc., The horror, the horror, the horror

Is it too early to trade the new David Booth?
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Reefer2 wrote:
SKYO wrote: E


Granlund is solid, at this point he should be racking up 18 minutes TOI, always producing chances.
Granlund is a pussy and a whimp, just what this team does not need, more perimeter player who wont take a hit to make a play. One who will not go into the dirty areas. This team is already too soft.
When Granlund is the only muscle on the team, you know you're in trouble.

shit at least this little guy fights back.
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So now that Benning has officially slipped up and used the word "rebuild" in an interview, can we assume that they are starting to at least look at blowing shit up and going all-in on it?

I've just been thinking that this season is a prime time for them to cash-in big time on vets.

Edler and Tanev are both worth 1st round picks, at the deadline and at the draft.

Miller may still be worth a 1st to the Kings.....although not for much longer. Budaj is 6-3-1 in his last 10 games, and the Kings are in a wildcard spot while tied in points with the Sharks who are 3rd in the Pacific with fewer games played. If Budaj falters they might panic a bit and make a trade like that.

The Canucks are almost certainly going to finish in the bottom 5 again. Making those trades almost guarantees a top 2 draft pick.

Is it not worth it? I understand that this draft is not a deep one, but the top-3 guys are all projecting nicely.

Making those moves could see the Canucks with 4 picks in the 1st round this year. One top pick, plus 3 more between 12-30. That's a rapid restocking.

There's a nice list of pending UFA players, and I think that a few of them fit the bill of older vet/mentor who would come here on 1 or 2 year deals. We would have another season of no playoffs, but the 2018-19 season could see us competing again and contending by 2020-21. Without an injection like that this team might compete by then, but it won't contend until probably 2023.
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Mëds wrote:So now that Benning has officially slipped up and used the word "rebuild" in an interview...
As you say, he slipped up, we're 2 years into the rebuild...
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Continuing on the 2+ year sneak rebuild, if we are still bottom feeders by late February look to see Burrows dealt.

Miller would be hard to move due to his contract.

Sbisa could be moved (contender depth + expansion draft bait).

But in the end all I see is the wily ol' vet Burrows being dealt, as he's playing great this season and is a superb rental for a Cup contender on their 3rd/4th line. That'll be sad, but business is business and we need picks and Burrows would likely bolt via UFA July 1st anyways, just like Hamhuis.
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